Ask Me Help Desk - Trump's Fantasy World

I've said this in other places. Trump lives in a fantasy world. I'm not sure he can fully tell the difference between reality and fantasy. Here is another bit of proof of that.

In this video Trump is seen urging people to view the video of Obama's recent encounter with a pro Trump heckler. Trump goes on to give a characterization of Obama's comments. But CNN has spliced the 2 videos here so you can see Trump's comments and the reality of what Obama said. Look at it yourself and see what a fantasy world Trump lives in.

Trump vs. the tape on Obama and the protester

Someone with his lack of a grasp on reality cannot be president.

That video is what you are using to determine your choice ? I have problems with Trump the demagogue ,his grasp of the important issues ,his temperament ,his lack of real experience and many other things. That video was him throwing his Trumpbots the red meat they want to hear . Evita also stretches the truth to the point of break at her rallies. The emperor technique is to create straw men to knock down. His faithful eat it up . It is all political rhetoric that is designed to keep the faithful enthused rather than to convince the undecided . This is typically the garbage when the candidates don't have a positive message. Trump gives slogans and Evita gives 30 years of failure . Since she can't run a positive campaign on her accomplishments (unless she considers the graft and corruption of the Clinton Foundation as an accomplishment ) ;her only cards left is negativity and the woman card . As bad as that is ,Trump's argument is even more shallow .

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Originally Posted by ScottGem

CNN has spliced the 2 videos.

Was it you that was saying edited videos cannot be trusted during the Planned Parenthood scandal or was that someone else?

No that is not what I'm basing my choice on. There have been many examples of Trump living in a fantasy world. Many that show his grasp on the realities of the world and especially those of being president are tenuous at best. That video was just a very clear, over the top example.

Cats, I vaguely recall saying something like. But in that case, the video was private, not public and there was a great deal of question about its validity, some of the questions proved accurate. I saw original footage of both the videos shown. They depict an accurate account of what happened in both events.

That has nothing to do with reality, that is rhetoric. I doubt he was talking about the same event but then

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Originally Posted by paraclete

That has nothing to do with reality, that is rhetoric. I doubt he was talking about the same event but then

Yes, he was.

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Originally Posted by paraclete

That has nothing to do with reality, that is rhetoric. I doubt he was talking about the same event but then

No this was not rhetoric. He was urging people to review the video. That is the video he was talking about. No this was a clear fantasy.

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No this was a clear fantasy

How do you tell the difference between rhetoric and fantasy? Dump obviously believes every word he says because he doesn't consult anyoneelse

I agree he believes every word he says, Which is why he lives in a fantasy world. Because, clearly, what he says in this video has not bearing to reality.

He's a legend in his own bathroom, to be sure

And yet the Hildebeast who actually believes no laws apply to her, who has her minions who believe she is a Queen running interference for her and bumping off people who get to close to taking her down (29 known bodies so far and counting) isn't living in a fantasy world?

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Originally Posted by smoothy

And yet the Hildebeast who actually believes no laws apply to her, who has her minions who believe she is a Queen running interference for her and bumping off people who get to close to taking her down (29 known bodies so far and counting) isn't living in a fantasy world?

Smoothy, we were dissing Dump not Dilliary, of course there is a lot of smoke surrounding her, but someone needs to investigate and bring charges, won't happen under a democrat administration and I assume Dopey (GWB) wasn't awake enough to consider it necessary, he being only interested in threats he could bomb. Both Dump and Dilliary appear to be coated with teflon, I expect that is what wealth buys you

Para, this seems to be a typical reaction from Trump Supporters. They can't defend the various problems that are pointed out about their candidate so they try to deflect it by changing the focus to Hillary.

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Originally Posted by ScottGem

Para, this seems to be a typical reaction from Trump Supporters. They can't defend the various problems that are pointed out about their candidate so they try to deflect it by changing the focus to Hillary.

Hi Scott yes there are a lot of one eyed people about where politics are concerned but an upset appears very likely now, commentators in my part of the woods are calling it for Dump, so I cannot say what that outcome might mean outside the US, the Peso has tanked already

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Originally Posted by ScottGem

Para, this seems to be a typical reaction from Trump Supporters. They can't defend the various problems that are pointed out about their candidate so they try to deflect it by changing the focus to Hillary.

Gee, maybe because Trump hasn't been committing crimes for decades and staying out of jail ONLY because of friends in the right places like Hillary has.

Scooter Libby Went to jail for changing an answer to congress when he committed no other crime..and no other crime was ever involved. Hillary flat out lied over and over to Congress...but she is somehow above the law for doing it?

She SHOULD be in jail NOW over this email thing ALONE. Anyone who has ever held a high level security clearance knows this because they ALL had to deal with lengthy briefings about the law and what the consequences were for it. And they did it again when they left that job.

Its not just me saying that... anyone who has ever had a high clearance knows it too. Including people in prisons now for exactly that same thing. She is the poster child for the lefts complaints the law isn't applied equally. Not anyone else. If the law was applied to everyone else as it has her...the prisons would be almost empty.

If Hillary was ANYONE else other than a Clinton, she would still be in jail. If any of us did what she did, we would be behind bars already.

In this country one is innocent until proven guilty. Hillary has never been indicted for anything. When she is indicted then talk to me about committing crimes.

But, as para, said, I posted this NOT to discuss Clinton. I posted this to discuss Trump. So please don't try to deflect or obfuscate things. Try dealing with the issues I raised. Can you defend Trump's total fantasy in characterizing what Obama said?

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Originally Posted by ScottGem

In this country one is innocent until proven guilty. Hillary has never been indicted for anything. When she is indicted then talk to me about committing crimes.

But, as para, said, I posted this NOT to discuss Clinton. I posted this to discuss Trump. So please don't try to deflect or obfuscate things. Try dealing with the issues I raised. Can you defend Trump's total fantasy in characterizing what Obama said?

Where do you have ANY proof Trump lives in a fantasy world? I haven't seen any what so ever. If you had your uncle the police commissioner bury your drunk driving arrests and parking tickets or destroy evidence doesn't make you innocent of anything.

Crimes were committed. Crimes were Definitely committed by Hillary. Strange how that standard didn't apply when its Republicans accused... Hillary could be filmed Shooing someone and standing over the dead body with a smoking gun and people would be defending her for doing it.

Yet where exactly is there ANY proof Trump isn't completely sane and rational? I see none at all. I see unfounded accusations by people with an admitted Bias against him... There IS a law on the books that deals with mishandling Classified Documents... its been proven she did it, the FBI said she did it, SHE admitted doing it, there is a law against giving false testimony to congress, there is proof she did it numerous times... Don't think it was a Crime?. Tell that to Scooter Libby who never committed any other crime... for a witch hunt where no crime was ever found to be committed. She should be held to the SAME exact standard he and everyone else is. She should be charged, she should be drug to court and she should have to have a court decision. Having political hacks blackmailing people with threats to end their careers if they proceed only proves corruption. And more reasons other people should be in jail too.

If you did it you would be in jail, if I did it I would be in jail....if most people did it they would be in jail.

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Originally Posted by ScottGem

In this country one is innocent until proven guilty. Hillary has never been indicted for anything. When she is indicted then talk to me about committing crimes.

But, as para, said, I posted this NOT to discuss Clinton. I posted this to discuss Trump. So please don't try to deflect or obfuscate things. Try dealing with the issues I raised. Can you defend Trump's total fantasy in characterizing what Obama said?

Scot I commiserate with you on the outcome, not because I supported either, but because you will enter a period of unprecedented change and I am certainly glad that the media will no longer want to discuss meglomaniacs as potential leaders but we will now see outcomes

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Originally Posted by smoothy

If Hillary was ANYONE else other than a Clinton, she would still be in jail.

Smoothy you may be right and we will see if Dump carries out his threat or whether he is a man of straw

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Originally Posted by smoothy

Where do you have ANY proof Trump lives in a fantasy world? I haven't seen any what so ever. .

If you haven't then you aren't paying attention, because there is ample proof. The video I posted is one such proof. I ask you again, was not Trump's characterization of the incident with Obama a total fantasy. You keep dodging that. I witnessed Trump say his not paying taxes was smart, then less than an hour later, denying he said it. His claims of a rigged election had no factual basis and have now been proven false. Some fact checking organizations have estimated Trump's statement as being inaccurate (at best) up to 91% of the time. So either the man just lies whenever he wants, or he believes the garbage he has spouted.

And I repeat, this thread is not about Hillary so I'm going to ignore your attempts to deflect the issues.

Apparently a large percentage of the American people were either fooled by this man or hated Hillary so much they blinded themselves to the reality. They were so disgusted with Washington politics (rightly so) that they were willing to vote for someone totally unqualified, who will set this country back 70 years. I would be happy to be proven right as this unfolds, but I have to live here too.

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Originally Posted by ScottGem

If you haven't then you aren't paying attention, because there is ample proof. The video I posted is one such proof. I ask you again, was not Trump's characterization of the incident with Obama a total fantasy. You keep dodging that. I witnessed Trump say his not paying taxes was smart, then less than an hour later, denying he said it. His claims of a rigged election had no factual basis and have now been proven false. Some fact checking organizations have estimated Trump's statement as being inaccurate (at best) up to 91% of the time. So either the man just lies whenever he wants, or he believes the garbage he has spouted.

And I repeat, this thread is not about Hillary so I'm going to ignore your attempts to deflect the issues.

Apparently a large percentage of the American people were either fooled by this man or hated Hillary so much they blinded themselves to the reality. They were so disgusted with Washington politics (rightly so) that they were willing to vote for someone totally unqualified, who will set this country back 70 years. I would be happy to be proven right as this unfolds, but I have to live here too.

I'm not the one dislusional nor were most of the American people. The Media does nothing but lie about everything... if you listened to them Nobody liked him and everyone liked Hilary. And again we only have a democrats OPINION of Trump and we all know what they say about opinions. They were pushing bogus polls and bogus information... and what the media tries to tell everyone to think doesn't mean they think or believe them. Recent events PROVE the media is not to be trusted OR believed.Trump is FAR more Qualified than Hillary was.What is her record of Accomplishments exactly? Benghazi and the two weeks of lies? THe many hours that passed before anything was done at all, when they knew what was happening within minutes, and it would have been passed along to the white house within 15 minutes? She accomplished nothing in the Senate, she accomplished nothing as Secretary of State.And this is going to be nothing more than a bash Trump thread, Bashing someone like Hillary that deserves it from her own actions is fair game because she is the mentally unstable person, and that actually has been proven rather than just alluded to.
Even more pertinent, what. were Obamas exactly? Voting present x number of times? What successful business did Obama ever run? There were some brain damaged people accusing Trump of draft Dodging because he got a deferment. WHat did Bill Clinton do....he fled the country and bashed the USA from the UK. Did Obama ever serve in the Military? No he didn't. How did John Kerry get his one year tour in Vietnam cut significantly shorter. George W Bush actually did serve in the National Guard....that was a legal option for anyone back then..he didn't dodge any draft. It was called the Selective Service option and it was availible for everyone BEFORE they got drafted.

I had to turn the TV off this morning because of all the deranged delusional liberals ranting like fools having mental breakdowns on Camera. THAT is what is irrational and unstable...the talking heads in the media who thought they could continue to BS the American public like they have been. I've been saying all allong how the media twists the facts beyond recognition...well they were doing it again and a certain segment STILL believe them. I knew they were overstating the facts and misrepresenting reality, so did a lot of other people. Why is anyone surprised?

WHat the media was doing with Trump is exactly what they did with George Zimmermans 911 call, edit it to change the entire context of the call then call him a racist when the truth was anything but that. Forget the media inventing a fake story and creating fake "evidence to use against Bush? I do, very very well. Dan Rather got thrown under the Bush to protect higher ups at CBS for that.

Anyone who believes everything the media tells them deserves to be shocked and worse. Ample evidence has been out there for decades...they just choose to ignore it in favor of party propaganda.

And honestly, I don't think the RNC is that much better than the DNC. We saw that with their willingness to throw an election just because their CHosen one didn't win the Primary, THe Democrats rigged their primary to screw Sanders in Favor of Hilary, and we have the email proof they did that thanks to wikileaks.