If a guy I know mouths the n word should I beat him up?

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Originally Posted by hamworld05

If a guy I know mouths the n word should I beat him up?

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Hello ham:

Well, there are those who would say that you should walk away. I'm NOT one of those people..

excon

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello ham:

Well, there are those who would say that you should walk away. I'm NOT one of those people..

excon

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Hey man I remember you. So... what you're not telling me is I should beat him up right? :D

Hello again, h:

There may be different ways to deal with a racist that are just effective as beating him up.

excon

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, h:

There may be different ways to deal with a racist that are just effective as beating him up.

excon

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Nothing would give me more pleasure than beating him up.

Yes, please assuming you are black, by beating him up you will prove him right and show that his sterotype of black people are correct.

It will allow him a chance to have you arrested and allow you to better learn a black culture of prison and jail that people who use the N word like to talk about blacks having.

Violence will never be an answer for anything, and just the opinion that you believe beating him up is a option shows a very lack of self control and lack of ability to get past grade school name calling results.

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Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck

yes, please assuming you are black, by beating him up you will prove him right and show that his sterotype of black people are correct.

It will allow him a chance to have you arrested and allow you to better learn a black culture of prison and jail that people who use the N word like to talk about blacks having.

Violence will never be an answer for anything, and just the opinion that you believe beating him up is a option shows a very lack of self control and lack of ability to get past grade school name calling results.

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I can't just sit by and do nothing. It's not just me my black homies are being called the n-word. Slavery happened because black people didn't stand up for themselves.

The holocaust happened because a guy made a joke about jewish peoples' noses and no one did anything.

So, let me get this straight. Your answer to racism is violence? What do you think that will accomplish?

Will it stop racism? No. Will it prove your point? No. Will the offender learn a lesson? No. The only thing that will happen is that you'll feel better about it, and that's a very sad statement to make. If violence makes you feel good, you should really seek anger management help.

There are ways to fight racism. Violence isn't one of them. In fact, violence is just as bad as racism.

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Originally Posted by Altenweg

So, let me get this straight. Your answer to racism is violence? What do you think that will accomplish?

Will it stop racism? No. Will it prove your point? No. Will the offender learn a lesson? No. The only thing that will happen is that you'll feel better about it, and that's a very sad statement to make. If violence makes you feel good, you should really seek anger management help.

There are ways to fight racism. Violence isn't one of them. In fact, violence is just as bad as racism.

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I appreciate your opinion. I’m not crazy and I’m trying to think this through. Violence does seem to be the right answer. If you look at the Holocaust, what ended it is violence: The Allied forces invading Germany.

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Originally Posted by hamworld05

I appreciate your opinion. I’m not crazy and I’m trying to think this through. Violence does seem to be the right answer. If you look at the Holocaust, what ended it is violence: The Allied forces invading Germany.

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Yes, and in that case people were being killed.

Is the person that's making racist remarks killing anyone?

Violence should never be the answer. Violence begets violence. The only thing you prove when you react violently is that you're no better then they are.

Violence is not the answer, it is not what got women or blacks their rights in the US. Violence only gives the other side to show and prove that you are not able to deal with life without it,

As noted it only proves their point,

Also war while violence is not one person attacking another, it is government taking action. It was not the Jews fighting back, The killing of the Jews was not even the reason for the war, We often see that hate only spreads more hate.

You boycott them if they have a business, you may boycott the place they work. And being called a name is not taking away your rights, In fact while not nice, not fair, one may say they could have a right to their opinion of you.

And I am sorry but if you beat someone for using the term, I bet you need to beat all of your "homeboys" since to be blunt, the term is used in more than 1/2 of the black songs I hear, I hear that word used ever day, when two blacks are talking to each other.

And again, too many minority live the life style that others talk about and often seem to prove the rasist right.

No you don't beat a person up for using that word. That makes no sense. I say this as a black person. You don't combat ignorance with violence. In fact beating someone one up just because they say something you don't like is childish

I think if he's being a racist try and bring attention to THAT. If you kick his *** before he puts a hand on you it'll make you look in the wrong. Just make it public how racist he is! There's nothing respectful about being a racist anymore it's 2011!! People are cooler with minorities now... I'm a minority too so I feel you, but you trump his move you'll look like the *ssh*le.

Hello again, h:

Well, I've been reading... I see MOST people would have you take the high road... But, all that does is piss you off and embolden the racist...

After some thought, I'd kick his a$$.

excon

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Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck

Violence is not the answer, it is not what got women or blacks thier rights in the US. Violence only gives the other side to show and prove that you are not able to deal with life without it,

As noted it only proves their point,

Also war while violence is not one person attacking another, it is government taking action. It was not the Jews fighting back, The killing of the Jews was not even the reason for the war, We often see that hate only spreads more hate.

You boycott them if they have a business, you may boycott the place they work. And being called a name is not taking away your rights, In fact while not nice, not fair, one may say they could have a right to their opinion of you.

And I am sorry but if you beat someone for using the term, I bet you need to beat all of your "homeboys" since to be blunt, the term is used in more than 1/2 of the black songs I hear, I hear that word used ever day, when two blacks are talking to each other.

And again, too many minority live the life style that others talk about and often seem to prove the rasist right.

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My friend had the right to feel secure! The racist took it away when the racist abused his freedom of speech.

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Originally Posted by hamworld05

I can't just sit by and do nothing. It's not just me my black homies are being called the n-word. Slavery happened because black people didn't stand up for themselves.

The holocaust happened because a guy made a joke about jewish peoples' noses and no one did anything.

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I've read your other posts. You should be cut some slack because you are obviously a child.

But this answer is bizarre. I'd like to see how you formed these opinions:

Slavery happened because "black" people didn't stand up for themselves. That's absolutely not true.

The Holocaust happened because a guy made a joke about Jewish (which should be capitalized) peoples' noses and no one did anything. Absolutely not true.

It's one thing to argue a position; it's quite another to make up facts to bolster your side of things.

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Originally Posted by JudyKayTee

I've read your other posts. You should be cut some slack because you are obviously a child.

But this answer is bizarre. I'd like to see how you formed these opinions:

Slavery happened because "black" people didn't stand up for themselves. That's absolutely not true.

The Holocaust happened because a guy made a joke about Jewish (which should be capitalized) peoples' noses and no one did anything. Absolutely not true.

It's one thing to argue a position; it's quite another to make up facts to bolster your side of things.

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I'm not making up facts, these are my opinions. I was talking about nations, not people in germany. No nation did anything to help Jewish people and that's what helped keep the holocaust going for as long as it did.

I don't appreciate you calling me a child.

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Originally Posted by hamworld05

I'm not making up facts, these are my opinions. I was talking about nations, not people in germany. No nation did anything to help Jewish people and that's what helped keep the holocaust going for as long as it did.

I don't appreciate you calling me a child.

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You said (and I quote): The Holocaust happened because a guy made a joke about Jewish (which should be capitalized) peoples' noses and no one did anything. What is your source of this "information"? This comment about "Jewish noses," even as a joke, is ignorant.

It's your opinion that "Black" people were enslaved because they didn't defend themselves? Opinons are based on something, research, classroom teaching, voices inside their heads.

As far as "no Nation" assisting Jews during and prior to WWII - here is a partial list of countries which DID assist: China, Netherlands, Poland, Greece, France, Belgium, Denmark, Bulgaria, Portugal, Spain, Lithuania, Albania, Italy, Finland, Norway. The Holocaust "kept going" because there was a war on. It ended when the war ended and the allied forces prevailed.

You totally misunderstand the targets of the Holocaust. It wasn't just Jews nor did only Jews suffer. As far as who died in the Holocaust, it wasn't just Jews. The Nazis attempted to annihilate political enemies, “Blacks,” the disabled, Communists, homosexuals, POWs (many of which were Soviet citizens), Poles, Romanians - gypsies, Slavs, Catholic clergy people, Protestant clergymen who didn't agree with Nazi propaganda, Jehovah's witnesses. Figures range and it is impossible to come up with an accurate tally but it breaks down to (approximately - and these figures are probably on the low side): Jews, 5.9 million; Soviets, 3.3 million; Poles/non Jewish, 1.9 million; Gypsies. 250,000; homosexuals, 11,000; Jehovahs Witnesses, 4,500; the disabled, 230,000.

Yes, I highjacked this thread. However, if you are going to argue facts, make sure they are correct.

Stop making childish statements and I'll stop thinking you're a child.

Maybe, but this is not the holocaust, physical and mental damage to the Jews are what inspired the justified violence in this case. You have to be REALLY WEAK to be hurt by words, and he is not hurting you in any other way, so violence is NOT the right answer. Especially in this case.

Exactly, you will lower yourself to his level by letting his words offend you. Ignore him, and show you are the bigger man!

Good Luck,
Javi