The 217 Representatives Who Voted To Keep NSA Spying On All Your Data | Techdirt

Contact your relevant representatives.

I think it is great that you can identify those who voted with such accuracy. Seriously I think you should refer your complaints to the man in charge make him feel your rage

Big government will never trim big government down to size on it's own . As expected ,my lefty reps in NY voted against it .
I wish Congress would vote to defund many other unconstitutional provisions in our laws.

What the government refer themselves to the Supreme Court?

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big government will never trim big government down to size on it's own

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Totally agree, but what's the solution? Are you forever stuck with a bloated government who's main goal is to take care of itself and of its corporate and special interest contributors? That's the big challenge ahead.

The founders gave us a remedy if we are bold enough to use it.
It can be found in Article 5 of the Constitution :
The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress

But they'll never use it since it takes away their gravy train. To me this is what the citizens should be working to change.

That's why it needs to come from the states.

That will never happen either since it's a feeder system of sorts for juicy fed spots. There is absolutely no incentive for them to do that.

Meanwhile construction continues on 2 massive NSA facilities that are going to cost us combined $2 billion. This must be the infrastructure spending the emperor was talking about .
The combined structures will eventually be renamed "The Barack Hussein Obama Presidential Library ".
The NSA's New Spy Facilities are 7 Times Bigger Than the Pentagon - Defense One

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Why, when more Repubs voted to keep it going than Dems.

Check out some of the Dems who voted against the bill .Nancy Pelosi, Steny Hoyer, and Debbie Wasserman Schultz ,all Dem leaders in the House ;and all extremely critical of the Patriot Act.

The Patriot Act is the reason why we do not use any SaaS from companies that have servers in the US.

Republican: NSA mass spying 'precisely the way our government ought to operate' | The Raw Story

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Representative Mike Pompeo (R-KS) on Wednesday defended the National Security Agency's domestic surveillance program, saying it complied with U.S. law... "This is precisely the way our government ought to operate: with input from Article I and Article 2 and Article III of the United States Constitution."

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The chief justice of SCOTUS appoints the judges in the FISA court, so write him your objection. Let me know how that works out for you! The congress can make changes, but holding your breathe isn't a great idea.

The fact that everything they are doing has been legalized is troubling indeed.

That's what the "Civil War" we are having is about NK, what's legal, and what ain't, and who decides. The tech boom has us all scrambling, so much potential, so many problems.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

That's what the "Civil War" we are having is about NK, what's legal, and what ain't, and who decides. The tech boom has us all scrambling, so much potential, so many problems.

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My father (a Truman Democrat) started telling me years ago that it was time for a constitutional convention .I was a skeptic ,but no longer . The only way to save the constitution is to hold a constitutional convention under the guidelines in article 5 .Let amendments be proposed ,debated ,and passed or failed in state legislatures or state conventions.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

the founders gave us a remedy if we are bold enough to use it.
it can be found in Article 5 of the Constitution :
The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress

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Tom I see your remedy but the bar is impossibly high Basically it means everyone is agreed beforehand what needs to be done. First you have to have agreement that change is necessary just to get to the point of discussing the change and in a polarised electorate like you have now getting those majorities is very, very difficult.

In my own nation we have similar provisions and we have a government that is reluctant to put even simple proposals to the people lest the changes fail to attract the necessary majorities. The last time they tried which was on the question of becoming a republic they failed

States rights are great until the state party's play hanky panky with the rights of its citizens under federal law. One interesting case is discriminating against gay marriages that are legal in states and not recognized by others.

If you recognize straight marriage from other states, you should recognize gay marriage from other states.