So the physical construction like the Keystone xl pipeline that was providing jobs can be cancelled .Real ‘infrastructure’ projects involve improving and repairing the nation’s dilapidated roads, bridges and other transportation infrastructure, projects in which real people who work at real jobs to make a real living participate. Such people are no longer a significant constituency of the Democrat Party, Hell ,they don't even try to pretend that their agenda creates "shovel ready jobs."

Every other Dem wish list is now labeled "Human Infrastructure".

The proxies who run the country for Quid submitted an infrastructure plan that has far less than 25% of what would traditionally be called infrastructure spending . Most of the remainder of the bill is simply massive payoffs to Democrat Party funders

Hello Tom. America has grown and diversified since the good old 50's. I told you to keep up.

And the “plan” to pay for it won’t even provide half of what is needed.

Tom says it's too much, and Jl says it's not enough.

Seems we heard about this before, over and over again. Shovel ready projects, filling pot holes, maintaining bridges when shovel ready jobs like building a wall go begging

A capitalists who doesn't believe in investment, and fringer who just can't count. What a pair!

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Tom says it's too much, and Jl says it's not enough.

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I would vote against the entire bill if I could. It was the tax revenue that I said was "not enough".

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Seems we heard about this before, over and over again. Shovel ready projects, filling pot holes, maintaining bridges when shovel ready jobs like building a wall go begging

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A wall helps nothing.

It's employment, it keeps out undesirables, think before you speak

yeah I know . In 2021 American Jobs Plan means anything but jobs ;and it certainly isn't infrastructure . It is a All Out Crazy Green New Deal wish list .($10 billion to create a civilian climate corps )

It is more about tax increases than jobs or infrastructure .......(defined as the basic systems and services that are necessary for a country or an organization to run smoothly, for example buildings, transport and water and power supplies.”) infrastructure noun - Definition, pictures, pronunciation and usage notes |

Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary at OxfordLearnersDictionaries.com

Yeah I know . The dictionary is so 1950s .

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Not enough jobs to keep the boats floating and will never stop enough undesirables and their drugs to be meaningful. Think before you speak.

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yeah I know . In 2021 American Jobs Plan means anything but jobs ;and it certainly isn't infrastructure . It is a All Out Crazy Green New Deal wish list .($10 billion to create a civilian climate corps )

It is more about tax increases than jobs or infrastructure .......(defined as the basic systems and services that are necessary for a country or an organization to run smoothly, for example buildings, transport and water and power supplies.”) infrastructure noun - Definition, pictures, pronunciation and usage notes |

Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary at OxfordLearnersDictionaries.com

Yeah I know . The dictionary is so 1950s .

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Er shouldn't we be talking economics not semantics?

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yeah I know .

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Tom forgive me If I'm wrong but in a capitalist society arn't those things provided by the private sector

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You mean you finally got a perspective

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in a capitalist society arn't those things provided by the private sector

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Highways, bridges, school, and other such legitimate government undertakings are funded with taxes. You must listen more carefully, Grasshopper.

we weren't speaking about such things

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you really must pay attention, but then I can't expect that from a senior citizen can I? I'll just put it down to a senior moment

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Tom forgive me If I'm wrong but in a capitalist society arn't those things provided by the private sector

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We are a constitutional republic . REAL infrastructure is a legitimate government investment . To understand why you have to know the meaning and intent of Art 1 Sec 8 the Postal Road clause . Congress has the power "to establish . . . post Roads.”

A post road in the 1800s was an intercity highway punctuated with “posts” or “stages” with stables, inns for eating and sleeping, even newspaper offices. Today we call a post road an “interstate highway.” To establish a road meant to do everything necessary for the construction and maintenance of that road—laying out, construction building bridges, building canals etc.

Now in the 21st century can it be argued that broad band internet is part of the infrastructure ? Maybe . But the Dems expand the meaning beyond all rationale . They basically say all their socialist welfare wish list is "human infrastructure " .

It is nonsense that even they can't adequately define . It is in the eye of the beholder what is "human infrastructure" Like Humpty Dumpty they make words mean whatever they want them to mean.

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we weren't speaking about such things

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Uhm...actually, you were. "It is more about tax increases than jobs or infrastructure." Always been this forgetful???

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Now in the 21st century can it be argued that broad band internet is part of the infrastructure ? Maybe . But the Dems expand the meaning beyond all rationale . They basically say all their socialist welfare wish list is "human infrastructure " .

It is nonsense that even they can't adequately define . It is in the eye of the beholder what is "human infrastructure" Like Humpty Dumpty they make words mean whatever they want them to mean.

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Nice spin but doesn't address the countries needs at all, which you choose to badmouth as socialism. Like Obama Care you can always have a counter offer and maybe the American people will like it better...maybe not.

You're a capitalist, so crunch the numbers unless like your conservative buddy, you only count what you can hoard yourself, and hate government and taxes which you both have written about.

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Like Obama Care you can always have a counter offer and maybe the American people will like it better...maybe not.

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counter offer . Just say no . Don't do it Your counteroffer is how the Fabians operate ..creeping socialism at a slower pace .
The lust for spending doesn't end with the Dems
Insatiable !
$1.9 trillion for so called Covid relief
$2.25 trillion for infrastructure
$1.5 trillion for the annual budget
And that is not even 3 months in office
This adding to an already $28 trillion national debt (more than the total GDP of $21.4 trillion ) ...... and they haven't even scratched the surface of the Dem real wish list .... free medical care ....free college ....panem et circensus for the plebians of the empire ...... while we open the borders to all the Goths ,Visigoths and Vandals .