As a historical document, the Bible's Old Testament is priceless. As a working guide to morality and modern life it’s a catastrophe.
As a historical document, the Bible's Old Testament is priceless. As a working guide to morality and modern life it’s a catastrophe.
The Old Testament only says "No, don't do that." One's immediate thought upon being told no is, "How can I get around that and still accomplish my objective?"
Also a good point. A British miniseries in 1974 called Moses The Lawgiver sort of took this approach. When Moses found a couple cheating on their spouses, for example, he gave them what-for and said "You must not commit adultery".Quote:
Athos
Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
The Old Testament only says "No, don't do that." One's immediate thought upon being told no is, "How can I get around that and still accomplish my objective?"
Good point. Another thing about being told no is that the thing being prohibited is happening, else why prohibit it?
And we know the people had a tendency to violate the first three commandments, because they were doing just that while Moses was getting the tablets.
Truth really is stranger than fiction.
I always wondered about "Honor thy Father and thy Mother". Was that really necessary among all those dos and don'ts? Hmm...
A lot is wrapped up in how one defines "honor" as a verb.Quote:
Athos
I always wondered about "Honor thy Father and thy Mother". Was that really necessary among all those dos and don'ts? Hmm...
I agree. If I may coin a word, the Hebrew essentially means "biggify". Hold them up with reverence and respect. It doesn't necessarily mean "obey blindly".Quote:
I was always taught it doesn't mean obey. What thinkest thou?
I'm not sure Moses could have envisioned some of the "parenting" that goes on today, or there might have been some explicit exceptions. Yet even abusive parents can be shown proper respect, as long as it's done from a distance. Honoring also doesn't necessarily mean tolerating.
Personal example: my mother-in-law was just about the unhappiest person I ever knew. She revealed it mostly in her words, because she found something wrong with everything. In particular she didn't like me. She inflicted so much hurt on my wife that it required us getting divorced for a while for her to deal with all of it.
When I was around her, I showed proper respect and politeness regardless of the barbs she was forever throwing at me. The last thing she said to me on her death-bed was a potshot about money. In response, I was reading Psalm 91 aloud as she expired. I couldn't stand her and I didn't mourn her. But I do believe I honored her.
For what it's worth.
Did we have the same mother-in-law, dwashbur?!
And thank you for that wonderful explanation! I will c/p it and put it (with proper attribution, of course) into my journal of literary treasures.
Yeah, I was sort of wincing as I came up with it for that reason. But it's about the most "literal" rendering of the Hebrew word that I could come up with.Quote:
"Biggify" sounds like a word Trump would use. In any case, your word is pretty much the same as the word "honor".
Scenario:
Mean old man screams at neighbor who's walking by. He's rude, profane, and vicious.
Response 1: Why don't you just go back in side you miserable old coot? Nobody's bothering you, get the stick out of your goozyx and just shut up.
Response 2: Smile and nod and keep walking.
"Respect your elders". Which response constitutes respect or honor in this scenario?
Idunno, did you marry a guy named John McCloskey? (Kathy's only brother) Hee heeQuote:
Did we have the same mother-in-law, dwashbur?!
Response 3: Stop, smile, wave, then start taking to him as you walk toward him, asking "I just baked a pan of yummy brownies. May I bring you some, or perhaps some of the cornbread I made yesterday? We can make coffee or tea, then we can share some jokes and stories."
Oh, wow!!! I think John was in my MIL's board (bored?) game club!Quote:
I dunno, did you marry a guy named John McCloskey? (Kathy's only brother) Hee hee
Sorry, #3 isn't an option. Circumstances only allow the first 2.
I prefer to think of it as storyteller's choice.
So you want people to be disrespectful? Be honest now. Are you a wolf in sheep's clothing? A fallen angel? Or, or, or - the ARCHFIEND HIMSELF?
Does being the Archfiend help you get girls? Did you get that job through the New York Times? Benefits?
There's a famous librarian on here. You should meet her. She knows boys that wanna be girls and girls who want to be boys or something like that. As for me, I want to be a table - I like chairs. And stories.
All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:46 PM. |