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  • Aug 5, 2019, 04:31 PM
    tomder55
    inside the Democratic Socialist Convention
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPLQNUVmq3o

    be wary of that sensory overload .
  • Aug 5, 2019, 06:26 PM
    paraclete
    Yes you always need to be aware of what the comrades are doing, tarvarich
  • Aug 7, 2019, 05:19 PM
    jlisenbe
    I saw that earlier on Facebook. What exactly was it?
  • Aug 7, 2019, 06:29 PM
    paraclete
    It seemed to be a meeting of self obscessed communists
  • Aug 7, 2019, 06:56 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    It seemed to be a meeting of self obscessed communists
    You mean that was a meeting of liberal democrats??? [<;
  • Aug 7, 2019, 10:15 PM
    paraclete
    No, these are more self obscessed, if that were possible
  • Aug 8, 2019, 04:23 AM
    tomder55
    this was the Democratic Socialists of America convention aka the snowflake's convention .


    From WSJ :

    Early on, National Director Maria Svart asked DSA delegates to turn off their phones. Standing before a hall of millennial socialists, this was brave—and doomed to fail. Members tweeted nonstop, complaining of “reactionary” rival factions and leaders who staged a test to see if fellow socialists were sufficiently antiracist.
    Party discipline was more effective at eliminating clapping. “Loud bursts of noise” can be dangerous to “disabled comrades,” a young man sporting a red kerchief explained. “Please don’t clap,” he said. “Instead shoot up these.” He thrust his hands above his head and wiggled his fingers. The DSA even set aside “quiet rooms,” one of which banned “anything that’s, like, an aggressive scent.”
    If the international workers’ movement seems to have morphed into a college diversity seminar, rest assured it still sings “The Internationale,” overuses the word “solidarity,” and issues political demands.

    The DSA fast-tracked resolutions calling for reparations for slavery and decriminalizing “sex work.” It voted to prioritize an “eco-socialist” Green New Deal, following its most prominent member, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. But so far, major Democratic presidential hopefuls could nod along.
    The DSA’s Medicare for All committee even reported that their socialist principles have “permeated the discourse” on health care and “define the demands of our coalition as well as those co-sponsoring single-payer bills” in Congress. They’re right.

    Democrats can’t match every new DSA resolution—“solidarity with the Cuban socialist struggle,” for instance—but they’re swallowing these socialists’ major critiques of the American way, one by one. It’s no accident that Joe Biden found himself hard-pressed last week to explain why national borders are legitimate. Many Democrats agree with DSA member Brandon Rey Ramirez, who called the U.S. immigration system “morally indefensible at its core” and added: “We need open borders and the complete dismantling of ICE and CBP in order to respect the dignity that every person deserves.”
    Democrats don’t share the DSA’s goal of abolishing capitalism, but they have an increasingly hard time explaining why not. They all but concede that America’s political and economic order is rooted in white supremacy and exploitation. Their base thrills to Sen. Bernie Sanders’s automatic denunciations of capitalist greed and his calls for “political revolution.” Even moderate Democrats accept the socialist critiques, if not the solutions. That’s why they struggle to parry attacks from the left.
    The DSA is campaigning for Mr. Sanders, and if he loses, the group voted in Atlanta not to endorse the Democratic candidate for president. This reflects the DSA’s conviction that it hardly needs to compromise to exert influence. Hold the applause, but these socialists are rapidly occupying the ideological ground on which the Democratic Party stands.
    Mr. Kaufman is an assistant editorial features editor at the Journal.
  • Aug 8, 2019, 06:46 AM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    these socialists are rapidly occupying the ideological ground on which the Democratic Party stands.
    well then you have nothing to worry about, do you?
  • Aug 8, 2019, 07:05 AM
    tomder55
    Yes we do .Their views are dangerous. The only silver lining I see is that if they run on these radical platforms they will be defeated just like McGovern in 1972 ;the last time the Dems went completely off the rail .
  • Aug 8, 2019, 07:27 AM
    talaniman
    Loonies, loonies everywhere, Left right up down some have guns some have silly, they are all nuts. They vote.
  • Aug 8, 2019, 08:58 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    They vote.
    That's a scary thought.
  • Aug 8, 2019, 07:28 PM
    paraclete
    You are easily scared. As a political movement they represent 50,000 individuals even though their ideals are espoused by some prominent demonrats. They appeal to the disaffected youth
  • Aug 9, 2019, 04:42 AM
    talaniman
    The real danger is if their hero isn't the nominee will they stay home? Repubs are scared of our loonies on the left, and we are scared of their loonies on the right. Repubs went off the rails with their loonies in 2016, and we get the dufus. Their nuts won!
  • Aug 9, 2019, 06:46 AM
    paraclete
    The whole place is an asylum run by the inmates with more loonies screaming to get in, it is like a bad zombie movie
  • Aug 9, 2019, 07:22 AM
    talaniman
    Seems that way sometimes with the news and the dufus dominating it, but most of us have lives we lead outside of the political chaos, and the zombie attacks. The inmates seem to run the asylum now, but the next election is a year and a half away, and things can change.

    Maybe we get the finale to the dufus circus. One can hope we don't have a second season of his lunatics.
  • Aug 9, 2019, 04:09 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Seems that way sometimes with the news and the dufus dominating it, but most of us have lives we lead outside of the political chaos, and the zombie attacks. The inmates seem to run the asylum now, but the next election is a year and a half away, and things can change.

    Maybe we get the finale to the dufus circus. One can hope we don't have a second season of his lunatics.

    How can things change? the same inmates are still in the asylum
  • Aug 9, 2019, 04:32 PM
    talaniman
    Don't be so sour Clete, some of us aren't that crazy, plus we can always change the inmates. We only have more loonies than you because we have more than 4 times the population which I have been telling you for years. Makes a difference.
  • Aug 9, 2019, 06:27 PM
    jlisenbe
    Closer to thirteen times the population.
  • Aug 9, 2019, 06:33 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Don't be so sour Clete, some of us aren't that crazy, plus we can always change the inmates. We only have more loonies than you because we have more than 4 times the population which I have been telling you for years. Makes a difference.

    Perhaps it does, but you lock people up at a much greater rate than we do and yet it doesn't seem to reduce the loonie population.

    You say population is the issue but nations with greater populations don't have the same problems so there must be another factor at play. Your economy is enormous and should produce prosperity for all the population but it doesn't. It is in fact, an economy that isn't generous to the less advantaged even though you might think it is. I think there is a myth in play and you have drunk the koolaid

    Anyway Tal I was just reading a newspaper article tell us that we are out of step with the rest of the
    world. Your administration would like to park some missiles over here and ours are
    having none of it. Your administration is suggesting we should abandon our trading relationship with China, talk about a begger your neighbour approach. We have even dared to say Hong Kong is part of China and they will just have to sort it out for themselves. Very strange noone here has wanted to discuss Hong Kong, it is like it has fallen off the planet, but then you don't live on the same planet, do you?
  • Aug 10, 2019, 04:36 AM
    tomder55
    Long Live the Umbrella Revolution .....and no Hong Kong is NOT part of China . Xi will find he will not be able to roll over these protesters like
    Tiananmen Square

    https://www.diggitmagazine.com/sites...?itok=kpmsP3Xr

    https://www.khmertimeskh.com/wp-cont...17/11/HKFA.jpg

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