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coronavirus, is it a threat or a plot

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-...-mean/11912630

Just when someone was getting a grip on the China trade situation along comes a virus, originating in China where all the good infections come from, and within a month it is declared an international crisis, an emergency where "emergency, emergency, everyone has to get from street" to coin an old line from a old movie. In the movie the threat wasn't real and the question is, is this a real emergency or a concocted one. Flue kills more people in this country every year than this virus is likely to kill world wide and yet it is an emergency. Mass hysteria, panic, paranoia.

Paraclete: Communist China is the HEART OF DARKNESS.....Some would argue it is the Islamic world but the ChiComs have no souls, they are atheist and that means no moral compass exist within them. I don't put something like you describe past these ChiComs. The ChiComs could use this "pandemic" to quell Hong Kong unrest with the "quarantine" tactic. But, it is a suicide tactic: The Chinese just think, and maybe rightly so, that they have more bodies to throw into the "suicide bin" than does the U.S.....lets hope the bastards choke on it and lets hope the entire Politburo, along with that snake-eyed Xi, get the damn Coronavirus and die!

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Paraclete: Communist China is the HEART OF DARKNESS.....Some would argue it is the Islamic world but the ChiComs have no souls, they are atheist and that means no moral compass exist within them. I don't put something like you describe past these ChiComs. The ChiComs could use this "pandemic" to quell Hong Kong unrest with the "quarantine" tactic. But, it is a suicide tactic: The Chinese just think, and maybe rightly so, that they have more bodies to throw into the "suicide bin" than does the U.S.....lets hope the bastards choke on it and lets hope the entire Politburo, along with that snake-eyed Xi, get the damn Coronavirus and die!

You see there vac, you have engaged in paranoia, there are many christians in China so they are not all soulless as you suggest. This virus surfaced at chinese New Year, a time when many move around the country, so chaotic transport in the middle of winter, lots of crowds, but Wuhan is also a centre of medical research, so did the virus escape, or, did someone eat bat?

Paraclete: When I speak in those terms, I am not saying "the Chinese PEOPLE", are the heart of darkness, I am say that their ChiCom government is the heart of darkness: Its not paranoia when historical perspective show that the characterization of it is indeed correct....ask a Chinese who "escaped" from the Mainland and they will tell you: its not the sanitized version that the media portrays Red China to be, it is, in fact, very dark.

Whatever it is Clete, it's spreading fast, the death toll and infected rate rising and has China shutdown and no cure in sight. We all will be wearing hazmat suits and masks before it's over.

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Whatever it is Clete, it's spreading fast, the death toll and infected rate rising and has China shutdown and no cure in sight. We all will be wearing hazmat suits and masks before it's over.

More paranoia, expect a cure soon, Australian research is on the job, they have already grown the virus in a lab and can use this to research a cure, as I said in the opening statement, flu is responsible for more deaths each year in this country alone and where is the panic over flu

it is an accidental release from a bio-weapon lab.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...gram-possible/

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it is an accidental release from a bio-weapon lab.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...gram-possible/

perhaps it is just an effectiveness test

The research lab the good professor had helped set up? It’s located at the Wuhan University of Technology. Wuhan China is ground zero to the potentially global pandemic known as the “Coronavirus”'

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2020/01/...JGyQw.facebook

https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipelin...in-fbi-custody

Yes the yellow peril has struck again, but China is not the place you think it is

China, as a people, not a country, are more Christian, than the US.

They have a higher active population of Christians than almost anywhere. They meet in illegal churches every week, online prayer groups, home churches and more. They meet, knowing they could go to jail, prison, lose jobs, lose custody of kids and more.

So no, the China people are not evil.

As the government, The Chinese government is much better than the items the Democratic party wants to put into place, so while out government is not as bad as theirs, it would only take one election, to make us worst

For what it is worth, my friend at the CDC is worried this could get out of hand and be another serious virus. But yes, we still have more deaths from normal virus, it is the threat of mutation that is a non mentioned scare.

As for Wuhan, it has what is equal to our CDC there. And many have the opinion that this would not have came from dead animals. If he would, it would have happened long ago, as dead animals is normal all over china. You have aligator on ice at the local Walmart in China, and meat just laying out on tables outside in every city in China,

This is getting had on the people in China, in all major cities, they have shut everything down. buses, subways, movies, any meetings.

Our family there have to just stay in their house, not allowed to go to work unless it is a required job to keep city or government operating.

My stepson and wife have not worked since this shut down started.

They as most people, are running out of supplies, in the area around Wuhan, it is even worst.
Our friend lives there, she has cancer, and can not even go in for treatment, since they fear she may get the virus because they have so many people in hospital they are in the hallways.

So no matter who or how it started, the people there are suffering.

Just image if it was illegal to drive your car out, to travel outside your city limits.
Illegal to have your store open, or if you had to close your business (movies, skating, and more)

Add to this, most communication from China is restreicted, they can't say anything about it on social media.

Fr Chuck: Are you Chinese or part of your family Chinese?

The CDC is a bunch of phonies . Thousands of people are afflicted by chronic lyme in this country every year and they barely acknowlege it exists . They call death from lyme a rare event and that is just a lie ! Tick born illness is a major problem. But the whole country panics when they see a mosquito.

The CIA has dropped C-130 loads of ticks carrying Lyme disease over South American jungles as a tactic to beat back the Columbian FARC....heard the interview.

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The CIA has dropped C-130 loads of ticks carrying Lyme disease over South American jungles as a tactic to beat back the Columbian FARC....heard the interview.

How do you know it isn't a policy to restrict immigration?

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The CIA has dropped C-130 loads of ticks carrying Lyme disease over South American jungles as a tactic to beat back the Columbian FARC....heard the interview.

LINK please. Sounds far fetched to me given the growing problem in THIS countries over decades.

Talaniman: I'm primitive at this but here it goes: Did the Pentagon Weaponize Tick-Borne Lyme Disease ...https://www.unknowncountry.com/headl...-lyme-disease/

Thanks Vac, but inquiry is a far cry from did. Still I would not equate an old problem with the new one that is playing out in hina, though we must not dismiss mans role, intentional or unintentional is either of these situations should we?

Have you read the authors other works by chance?

Talaniman: No, have not read his other work.....got turned onto this from a friend of mine who actually heard blacked-out silhouette interview of the pilot who flew the CIA mission plane that dumped the alleged Lymes disease ticks: He said it was chilling stuff......Talaniman, I know you still have suspicions of me being a "Winger" but I am not and I have a deep, deep suspicion of anything with CIA attached to it....The U.S. Military doesn't do crap like this with CIA promotion and orders....the CIA is the dirty bastard in the room. Go up against them and you might lose your rights....keep it up and you will lose your life.

I've never been a supporter of any of those alphabet groups or my own government to a large extent, simply because I've seen their dirt over the years. I trust the dufus even less...far less than I do anyone else. Him and his mindless sycophants. You don't have to be a winger to be suspicious though, and it's without malice or bad intent I throw you in that camp occasionally, and cannot say I didn't sound more like you at that age than I care to admit. The dufus has corrupted my government in more ways and more deeply than the Nixon's and Reagan's and Bush's ever could. That does include the dem presidents between them too, least I be accused of selective blame.

I really can't say what's going on that I know nothing about, but the stuff I do know of is disgustingly despicable for real.

An overview of Whitley Strieber, and his works.

Lived in China 6 years, and Japan 2 years, just been back a couple of years.
I taught International Law there.

Before that I was in Laos for 2 years.

So 10 years living in Asia.

Talaniman: Whitely Strieber seems a little eccentric but some of the most interesting people I have ever know could also be called eccentric, too. The guy apparently takes some
liberties" with the truth but he also must be one great storyteller as drawn inference from his resume.

I think a healthy dose of skepticism about Government ventures and entities is HEALTHY! Glad you feel the same.

And, I HOPE you are dead wrong about Trump. I really do: Our country doesn't need bad...we need good.....and we have to have leadership that can show the way. I WANT THE DEVISIVENESS TO GO AWAY! We need to come together and stop being two camps ON EVERYTHING! We can find common ground.

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Talaniman: Whitely Strieber seems a little eccentric but some of the most interesting people I have ever know could also be called eccentric, too. The guy apparently takes some
liberties" with the truth but he also must be one great storyteller as drawn inference from his resume.

I think a healthy dose of skepticism about Government ventures and entities is HEALTHY! Glad you feel the same.

And, I HOPE you are dead wrong about Trump. I really do: Our country doesn't need bad...we need good.....and we have to have leadership that can show the way. I WANT THE DEVISIVENESS TO GO AWAY! We need to come together and stop being two camps ON EVERYTHING! We can find common ground.

Trump isn't your man

We agree on that Clete.

Well Tal let us agree on something else, it has begun to rain so really a new day

You pick the peeve Clete. Unless of course you get to much rain and seek higher ground. Be prepared and invest in a boat!

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You pick the peeve Clete. Unless of course you get to much rain and seek higher ground. Be prepared and invest in a boat!

no tal if it floods here we are all in trouble

Welcome to my world Clete. No telling what a new day brings do we? If you don't get the tickets for a one week extravaganza in the Bahamas, then likely I didn't hit the lottery...AGAIN!

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Welcome to my world Clete. No telling what a new day brings do we? If you don't get the tickets for a one week extravaganza in the Bahamas, then likely I didn't hit the lottery...AGAIN!

With coronavirus about it is not cruising weather as a number of my countrymen found out, stuck on a cruise ship is not the place to be, whether it's novovirus or coronavirus

Forget the cruise ship, I ain't got that many friends. I was thinking the cheap seat special on a freaking plane.

well there is some good news, the rate of infection appears to be falling

good news out out Iran

[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/bre...JI7h6XbEHVNzDB

tomder55: LOVE IT! GREAT NEWS! ONE LESS! AND, with any luck at all, the entire Turban Gang will get a dose of this stuff: Killing evil one demon at a time! Who said there wasn't a silver lining in this virus! And the Iranians call the U.S. "THE GREAT SATAN"? I think after this stuff gets going good, they will be looking toward RED CHINA as the "NEW GREAT SATAN"!

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tomder55: LOVE IT! GREAT NEWS! ONE LESS! AND, with any luck at all, the entire Turban Gang will get a dose of this stuff: Killing evil one demon at a time! Who said there wasn't a silver lining in this virus! And the Iranians call the U.S. "THE GREAT SATAN"? I think after this stuff gets going good, they will be looking toward RED CHINA as the "NEW GREAT SATAN"!

Be careful what you wish for. In many ways the Iranians might be right, since the devil comes in many forms.

Paraclete: If the Iranians re-aim their "Great Satan" chants at RED CHINA, yes, yes indeed, they may be onto something RIGHT, for a change!

that travel ban that everyone thought was racist appears to have been prophetic . Now we need to complete the wall

Too late, should have done it already

The travel ban was racists and has nothing to do with the virus spreading here. A wall doesn't stop germs either, or people who can build ladders rather cheaply. What we need are beds and health care workers to get through this no matter how many get infected until science has a vacine. Above all a faster diagnosis from the start and more of it, and stop sending politicos to explain and update the public. That's a doctors job, and can't believe they haven't figured that out yet.

Like the markets people want facts and CERTAINTY! Give it to us!

what you need is not to panic