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Talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk

So the new darling of the GOP Chris Christie is all about tightening belts, slashing this and slashing that and all the GOP loves him. But he does not walk the walk Christie and his wife used a NJ State police helicopter to fly to his son's baseball game. Landed got in a State limo drove about 100 yards got out and sat in his seat.

Then took the Helicopter back to Drumthwacket (the Governor mansion) to have dinner with High end GOP donors. If he wants teachers and state employees to cut back take furlough days etc he really isn't setting a good example. I wouldn't have a problem with this at all if he isn't telling everyone else that they need to cut back I mean seriously he got in a limo to drive 100 yards. C'mon Man!!

NJ gov. takes state helicopter to son's ballgame | AP | 06/01/2011

Agree , he should immediately reimburse the state for his chopper rides unless he can prove they were State functions . His kids ball game doesn't make the cut .
I think all pols using taxpayer rides should do the same where applicable . Wonder how much money we've spent on the Obama vacation junkets or to his golf games ?

By the way... want to trade some of those players you aren't using ?

Who are you looking at? My life has been turned upside down the past month that I have really been slacking off on the Fantasy Baseball.

Yeah I really hate that all Pols do this nonsense.

I'll make an offer although it would be better if you could find the time . It's going to take a combined effort to defeat the Tx .

This is the 1st time Christe has slipped up since term began. It's not a terrible gaffe if he fixes it . But he has been a bit arrogant about it.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

But he has been a bit arrogant about it.

Hello tom:

He can't fix it, even if he tries, and I don't think he will. It's not about dollars any more. It's about his "entitlement" attitude. He started believing his own press. He's being wooed. He thinks he's above the fray. He's wrong.

Obama is looking more vulnerable than ever, too. I guess the Republicans will have to look further.

excon

He has served his purpose in bringing the problem of the public unions to the forefront .
Conservatives need to realize however that on many issues he will frustrate them .

Yep, looks bad, although the NJ State Police said he hopped along for a ride they were already taking. As always, I'm waiting to see his response.

Good luck catching the burgers.

He needs to pay for the ride and move on. They go nuts here in the northeast .Former NY Governor Patterson got capped over Yankee tickets. He ended up paying the $2,125, ticket prices ;$60,000 for three violations of the state's public officer's law,He barely beat perjury charges.

Heck of a lot cheaper than Obama's globetrotting, don't hear the left harping about his numerous excesses... and you do know there is more than just one plane when the President goes anywhere in anything. How do you think his super Limo gets around along with all the support vehicles? Right... HUGE air force cargo plane. Never hear about those anyplace do you?

Yesterday his staff said they were not going to pay for it but from all the bad press he is getting from it they changed their mind. Oh and this is the second time he has taken the NJSP helicopter to his sons baseball game this is just the first time he was caught.

How could you not get caught? It's a freakin' helicopter dropping in.

So, can we bill Mimi for her personal air force?

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Originally Posted by smoothy

Heck of a lot cheaper than Obama's globetrotting, don't hear the left harping about his numerous excesses....

Hello smoothy:

Tell me about his numerous excesses and I'll harp. He DID go on vacation to Hawaii recently. That's not excessive. You don't expect him to fly commercial, do you?? You probably do - in the back of the plane.

excon

Today he reimbursed the state for his rides. Now (as Weiner said) it's time to end this 'distraction' and 'get back to the job the people hired him to do'and all those other clichés.

Since he is so concerned about global warming ,perhaps next time he'll ride a bike or squeeze into a Prius .

While the Obamacare mandate goes through the court system there is one conspicuous absence in the debate. NJ did not join in any of the cases that Republican Governors have brought against the unconstitutional provision.

A fine example of politics without principles

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello smoothy:

Tell me about his numerous excesses and I'll harp. He DID go on vacation to Hawaii recently. That's not excessive. You don't expect him to fly commercial, do you??? You probably do - in the back of the plane.

excon

Gee, if ALL he did was go to Hawaii once... I'd be the first to say he earned it. Fact is... that was a drop in the bucket.

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Originally Posted by smoothy

Gee, if ALL he did was go to Hawaii once....I'd be the first to say he earned it. Fact is...that was a drop in the bucket.

You seem pretty up on Obama's vacations please list them.

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Originally Posted by spitvenom

You seem pretty up on Obama's vacations please list them.

Gee... when HAS he actually spent a week in DC... at least he stuck around for Memorial day this year... for a change. He was shamed into that for NOT doing his presidential duties at Arlington Cemetery last year.

His international jaunts are well documented online... but not his domestic ones, not in the form of a database.. for easy reference. And clearly not the personal trips. Every time you turn on the news he's someplace that's NOT Washington , DC.

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Originally Posted by smoothy

Gee...when HAS he actually spent a week in DC....

Apparently a lot of times: President's Schedule | The White House
Where exactly do you get your information for your statements?

Try the news... he's always someplace that's NOT here.

I suppose you would ask John Gotti where he was every day and take his word for it.

Obama hasn't been honest about anything a single day in his life. And certainly not any more than John Gotti was. I consider them both equals on being trustworthy and honest.

And if you think the White house accounts for his whereabouts to anyone in the public with any accuracy... you'd be sadly mistaken. And there are reasons they don't, good ones actually. And those reasons transcend administrations.

So basically smoothy you don't know. Can't say I'm surprised

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Originally Posted by spitvenom

So basically smoothy you don't know. Can't say I'm surprised

I know better than you do... work blocks from the White house... DC news covers this more than any other news will cover it.

And incidentally... presenting an Web link to an Itinerary shows how little you know about a presidents movements. What you can be sure of is when you see him someplace on the news... everything else in between... isn't public knowledge. And certainly not posted on the web.

That website is for show... what really happens will be something far different.

Do you know what Federal agency actually keeps track of him 24X7? Do you know where they are? Do you know anyone that has actually been part of the required Entourage and support team?

And do you know it didn't start with Obama, and won't end with him either as far as these details. It only gets tighter every year out of necessity.

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Originally Posted by smoothy

I know better than you do.... work blocks from the White house....

So tell us, that's what we're asking.

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Originally Posted by smoothy

Gee...when HAS he actually spent a week in DC...

Hello again, smoothy:

Really? You think that if he's NOT in DC, he's not WORKING? Are you serious?? Time spent away is globetrotting where he racks up "excesses" at every turn?? DUDE!

You've said some really outrageous stuff around here, but this TOPS the list.

excon

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

So tell us, that's what we're asking.

The answer is too much...

And no liberal has taken the time to document all his personal junkets. And without THOSE as well as all his domestic trips away from Washington... any trip database will be invalid as being inaccurate without that info.

Where he's been is one thing... Where he is or where he will be... and when, you won't find valid or accurate info on as John Q. Public. Because they don't release those details like a bus schedule. And when they do its limited to those with a need to know... and limited to the period that actually have a need to know... and limited in scope to what they need to know.

Not published on the internet for all to see.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, smoothy:

Really? You think that if he's NOT in DC, he's not WORKING?? Are you serious??? Time spent away is globetrotting where he racks up "excesses" at every turn??? DUDE!

You've said some really outrageous stuff around here, but this TOPS the list.

excon

Hey... YOUR buddies were screaming every time BUSH left DC. Or do you admit he was really working too... and all those arguments you made then were pure BS?

I suppose Obama was getting a lot of work done on that trip where he took Michel to dinner and the theater in NYC, on taxpayers money.

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Originally Posted by smoothy

The answer is too much......

and no liberal has taken the time to document all his personal junkets. and without THOSE as well as all his domestic trips away from Washington....any trip database will be invalid as being inaccurate without that info.

Hello again, smoothy:

Let me see. There's TOO MANY items to list, but you COULDN'T list them, even if you wanted to, because the database is invalid...

I understand.. No, really. I do.

excon

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, smoothy:

Lemme see. There's TOO MANY items to list, but you COULDN'T list them, even if you wanted to, because the database is invalid...

I understand.. No, really. I do.

excon

Didn't see you present a link to a database that includes his domestic junkets... to prove otherwise.

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Originally Posted by smoothy

Didn't see you present a link to a database that includes his domestic junkets.....to prove otherwise.

Hello again, smoothy:

You're going off track again, here, smoothy... I'M not the one who made accusations and can't back them up.

Look. I'm sorry that you are unable to keep up with the conversation... You somehow get lost along the way... But, I'm not going to let THIS be about YOU again... Back up YOUR allegations about excess's or NOT. You either CAN, or you CAN'T - and you CAN'T. THAT is abundantly clear to EVERYBODY. You can deflect all you want, but you can't HIDE.

excon

Really... A Republican Governor acting within his rights takes a Helicopter... but democrats cry about it... But Obama spends thousands of times more on a fleet of jets and a HUGE entourage FREQUENTLY... traveling around But that's fine and Dandy because he's the messiah... and besides, Democrats don't have to follow the same rules.

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Originally Posted by smoothy

The answer is too much......

No, you said you know more, give us some of the details. Not the whole thing, just some of the stuff you know that others don't.

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Originally Posted by smoothy

Really....A Republican Governor acting within his rights takes a Helicopter.....but democrats cry about it.....But Obama spends thousands of times more on a fleet of jets and a HUGE entourage FREQUENTLY.....traveling around But that's fine and Dandy because he's the messiah...and besides, Democrats don't have to follow the same rules.

Hello again, smoothy:

Couple things... He WASN'T acting within his rights. He was using TAX PAYER money to attend a PRIVATE PERSONAL event. He doesn't have a RIGHT to do that.. What would make you think he does??

Plus, he rules are the same. If Obama abused his perks, we'd have heard about it. You, it appears are the only one reporting it, and you can't even back it up.

The MAIN thing, however, that you appear to miss is that the presidents job is slightly different than a governors job. I wouldn't know how to begin to explain the difference to you.

excon

I don't think the President is ever really on vacation . That of course was missed when President Bush was in Texas ;or Reagan was spending time in the "Western White House".