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jlisenbe
1. You believe it was an allegory but you don't know the moral message? Hmmm.
Where did you get that from? I didn't say a word about the moral message. Bad habit - putting words in the mouth of others. Will you ever learn?
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2. Read the story of Moses. Read about how he met daily with God. What do you suppose they talked about?
Now you're saying God briefed Moses daily on the creation. How did God explain two differing accounts of creation? Or did Moses make that up?
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3. It's so all over the internet that you can't post a single instance.
It would be much more fruitful for you to read it yourself. You'll get much more out of it.
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4. I don't do research to verify your questionable assertions.
Your choice, your loss.
No, it's your job, if you really want to know. If you're just trolling, then never mind.
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In fact I would suggest to you or anyone to not post assertions for which you have no support.
You're wrong. Assertions may have posted support or not - depends on the complexity and length of what is being asserted. Sometimes unposted support can be provided by a link, but you have already declared your refusal to learn that way. Other times assertions come from sources that can't be posted. For instance, you claimed to be a school principal, but you never posted support for your assertion.
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I think I understand our problem. I know what my authority is. It is the Bible. Now you don't accept that, and that's fine. It's your privilege. But I do wonder what your authority is.
Let's go even deeper. HOW have you come to accept the authority of the Bible? You did it by reading, listening, maybe home life, church, considering, thinking, and all the ways humans arrive at decisions. So your ACTUAL authority is rooted in your mind/brain/intellect/experiences. So is mine.
Here's the difference. For whatever reason, you stopped the thought process by accepting the literalness of the Bible. Most Christians did NOT stop there. They continued to read, think, experience, analyze, and consider as they grew in age, wisdom and faith.
This is very apparent when you are unable to explain WHY you believe except to say "The Bible told me so". We see this from you all the time when you offer Bible verses instead of your own well-thought-out responses using your God-given mind.
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In other words, what has the right to disagree with you and yet be accepted by you. Athos believes A, but his authority says B, so Athos accepts B.
I don't think I understand this. A concrete example would help.
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Other than your own opinion, what is your authority?
Think about that. What other opinion could there be except one's mind, intellect, brain - aka, "opinion" in the strict sense?
You do the same thing. But you have decided (using your mental faculties) to stop the process by placing the Bible as written in front of your brain. I haven't. THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US - THE PROBLEM, AS YOU PUT IT.
I see you've posted some Bible verses. I'll get to it. But first, I need a break.