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  • May 31, 2013, 12:11 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Athos View Post
    *groan*

    You don't know what Pentecostals et al. believe about how Catholics perceive Mary and the saints?
  • May 31, 2013, 02:25 PM
    Athos
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    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    You don't know what Pentecostals et al. believe about how Catholics perceive Mary and the saints?

    Yes, I know and that's the problem. If I read the post incorrectly, I apologize.
  • May 31, 2013, 02:27 PM
    Wondergirl
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    Originally Posted by Athos View Post
    Yes, I know and that's the problem. If I read the post incorrectly, I apologize.

    How is it the problem?
  • May 31, 2013, 02:30 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    How is it the problem?

    The gratuitous swipe at the Catholic Church.
  • May 31, 2013, 02:34 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Athos View Post
    The gratuitous swipe at the Catholic Church.

    That wasn't the intent at all. No swiping was going on. There is definitely a difference between Pentecostal et al. and Catholic belief/understanding regarding the person of Mary, the mother of Jesus, and her role in the lives of Christians.
  • May 31, 2013, 02:43 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    That wasn't the intent at all. No swiping was going on. There is definitely a difference between Pentecostal et al. and Catholic belief/understanding regarding the person of Mary, the mother of Jesus, and her role in the lives of Christians.

    Yes, but gratuitous in that it had nothing to do with the question.

    This mini discussion has no future, so I will say ta-ta.
  • May 31, 2013, 02:47 PM
    Wondergirl
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    Originally Posted by Athos View Post
    Yes, but gratuitous in that it had nothing to do with the question.

    Actually, yes, it did. Pentecostal elders and deacons apparently are always on the alert for any newcomers who may be promoting a different doctrine or practice other than their church's. Thus, OP's "warning" from the pastor was not unusual.
  • May 31, 2013, 02:53 PM
    Athos
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    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Actually, yes, it did. Pentecostal elders and deacons apparently are always on the alert for any newcomers who may be promoting a different doctrine or practice other than their church's. Thus, OP's "warning" from the pastor was not unusual.


    You win.
  • May 31, 2013, 02:59 PM
    Wondergirl
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    Originally Posted by Athos View Post
    You win.

    Winning isn't what this is about. If I were on the schedule to play with my Christian rock band at a Catholic service, we wouldn't break out with a jubilant "Ein Feste Burg." It's the same kind of respect.
  • May 31, 2013, 03:04 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Winning isn't what this is about. If I were on the schedule to play with my Christian rock band at a Catholic service, we wouldn't break out with a jubilant "Ein Feste Burg." It's the same kind of respect.


    Can't win gracefully, eh?
  • Aug 4, 2013, 07:43 AM
    freeman4
    When I first attended the Church in which I had the same experience, I felt just as you. I believed that I was a Child of God and that having the Holy Spirit I was qualified to lay hands on individuals. As you I was pulled to the side and was told not to do that, that only Gods ministers were to do that. It scared me then.

    But as I have grown in knowledge I find it not wrong to do this because only you will know what Gift God has given you, no one else. People have certain gifts and it is up to them to find that gift, not someone for them.

    God has used me as an instrument many time in healing individuals. It is not I but God who does it through me. Try the gifts that are mentioned and see what you have, only you will know and only God will provide the healing power.

    freeman4:
  • Aug 4, 2013, 08:30 AM
    N0help4u
    I can see both sides because IF God lays it on your heart to lay hands on and pray for someone then nothing should stop you. But it is their church and they are responsible to lead it orderly. I'm not even sure some that the church allow that privilege should be doing so. I counseled a girl at a church one time and got told about it but I knew it was what I was to do at the time.
  • Aug 4, 2013, 08:44 AM
    Fr_Chuck
    I am getting into this late, but, these were people the poster knew, ( his friends) and he was inspired by the Holy Spirit to do this.

    I am sorry, new, old, if the Holy Spirit tells you to do it, then you do it. Was not Paul new to town when he went into a city. If the Spirit lead them, then a Elder questioning this was doing so, perhaps out of pride or other reasons, had that elder even listened to the prayers being said.

    If I have the choice, follow a church rule, listen to a elder or even a pastor, or Follow the leading of the Holy Spirit, I have to follow the Spirit.

    At times the Spirit will make a person challenge what is happening in a church.
  • Aug 4, 2013, 09:36 AM
    N0help4u
    Exactly

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