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  • Jul 7, 2012, 09:10 AM
    onligcanhelp
    Abortion and pregnancy test job requirements
    It's been 6 days since I had an abortion and I am still bleeding. I know that my pregnancy tests will show possitive for a while, but I got a job that requires me to do a pregnancy test. What can I do? I need to work and the test have to be done before I start working less than a month from now?
  • Jul 7, 2012, 09:17 AM
    Mobley119
    You'll have to inform them of your situation. There is no way to get the hcg levels lowered manually, it takes time. Depending on how far along you were they might be low enough to bring a negative by the time you test.
  • Jul 7, 2012, 10:00 AM
    Fr_Chuck
    Also where are you, I am questioning the legality of even asking you that you are pregnant in the US anyway. In most places I know of, I don't see where a pregnancy test for employment is possible
  • Jul 7, 2012, 10:26 AM
    onligcanhelp
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mobley119 View Post
    You'll have to inform them of your situation. There is no way to get the hcg levels lowered manually, it takes time. Depending on how far along you were they might be low enough to bring a negative by the time you test.

    I understand. What I'd like to know is if any other test proving am no longer pregnant would be acceptable?
  • Jul 7, 2012, 10:30 AM
    onligcanhelp
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck View Post
    Also where are you, I am questioning the legality of even asking you that you are pregnant in the US anyway. In most places I know of, I don't see where a pregnancy test for employment is possible

    It's a job on cruises. I am quite sure a month is enough time to rest and prepare for work. My concern is this challenge taking a pregnancy test that may come out possitive.
  • Jul 7, 2012, 10:33 AM
    Fr_Chuck
    You notify them of the abortion and provide records from the doctor who did the abortion.
  • Jul 7, 2012, 10:33 AM
    Fr_Chuck
    Again, what country is this
  • Jul 7, 2012, 10:36 AM
    onligcanhelp
    I will not say my exact location-but I live in the Caribbean Islands.
  • Jul 7, 2012, 10:42 AM
    Fr_Chuck
    I was going into the legality of even requesting a pregnancy test, in most places it most likely is not even legal. Also what proof they may or not be allowed

    Most issues are very location based.
  • Jul 7, 2012, 10:53 AM
    onligcanhelp
    That's true, Chuck. Before I returned home I realized that it is mandatory and thought nothing of it at the time. But given the situation I'm in, I need this to work in my favor. I've considered other options, but none will suit my expenses and responsibilities-going back to the ships is closest to taking care of things.
  • Jul 7, 2012, 11:02 AM
    Mobley119
    Did you get an abortion legally in your country or travel somewhere else to get one?
  • Jul 7, 2012, 11:05 AM
    onligcanhelp
    Legally in my country.
  • Jul 7, 2012, 11:29 AM
    Fr_Chuck
    First I am sorry, we did not perhaps properly directly address the question. No there is no way to change anything, and it will just take time for the levels to change. If you test, best choice is to just show them records of it
  • Jul 7, 2012, 12:07 PM
    tickle
    Sorry, but I have to address this, in your favour of course, usually after an abortion they recommend curetage, a cleaning out of the uterus. I hope that you don't develop any kind of complications while on the cruise ship.
  • Jul 7, 2012, 12:22 PM
    onligcanhelp
    Tickle, thanks for your input. The full story is this: I missed my period for 4 days but kept getting serious cramps as though I was having it. The 5th day I took a pregnancy test and immediately after I stated to bleed, the blood was very dark. After seeing a doc he told me I'm losing the pregnancy and he can do the removal. That is still an abortion, right? After losing a lot of blood, drinking a lot of fluids, taking my prescription like clockwork, and staying on my back with feet up as much as possible-I am still bleeding, with pain. This is a new concern to add to going through whatever procedure the company I work for may have for this kind of thing. Do I really have to go through another physically and emotionally painful experience to make this work?
  • Jul 7, 2012, 12:25 PM
    onligcanhelp
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck View Post
    First I am sorry, we did not perhaps properly directly address the question. no there is no way to change anything, and it will just take time for the levels to change. If you test, best choice is to just show them records of it

    Thank you, Chuck
  • Jul 7, 2012, 12:48 PM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by onligcanhelp View Post
    Tickle, thanks for your input. The full story is this: I missed my period for 4 days but kept getting serious cramps as though I was having it. The 5th day I took a pregnancy test and immediately after I stated to bleed, the blood was very dark in color. After seeing a doc he told me I'm loosing the pregnancy and he can do the removal. That is still an abortion, right? After loosing a lot of blood, drinking a lot of fluids, taking my prescription like clockwork, and staying on my back with feet up as much as possible-I am still bleeding, with pain. This is a new concern to add to going through whatever procedure the company I work for may have for this kind of thing. Do I really have to go through another physically and emotionally painful experience to make this work?

    Telephone the Doctor who performed the procedure (?) and ASK HIM/HER. If you are in pain you could have already developed an infection.

    You need to concentrate on your health and not this job. I'm more worried about you than I am about your employment.

    I'm amazed that a cruise line is doing pregnancy testing on potential employees (but I do understand their reasoning).
  • Jul 7, 2012, 01:11 PM
    tickle
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by onligcanhelp View Post
    . This is a new concern to add to going through whatever procedure the company I work for may have for this kind of thing. Do I really have to go through another physically and emotionally painful experience to make this work?

    Its up to you, but infection is a problem, especially in warmer climates. It doesn't matter how good your hygiene is but there is always the chance and you just had a very invasive procedure, and you are still bleeding.

    Its up to you, but I couldn't help but mention this for your own welfare.
  • Jul 7, 2012, 02:24 PM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mobley119 View Post
    Did you get an abortion legally in your country or travel somewhere else to get one?


    Why would this matter when it comes to employment and test levels?
  • Jul 7, 2012, 02:31 PM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by onligcanhelp View Post
    Tickle, thanks for your input. The full story is this: I missed my period for 4 days but kept getting serious cramps as though I was having it. The 5th day I took a pregnancy test and immediately after I stated to bleed, the blood was very dark in color. After seeing a doc he told me I'm loosing the pregnancy and he can do the removal. That is still an abortion, right? After loosing a lot of blood, drinking a lot of fluids, taking my prescription like clockwork, and staying on my back with feet up as much as possible-I am still bleeding, with pain. This is a new concern to add to going through whatever procedure the company I work for may have for this kind of thing. Do I really have to go through another physically and emotionally painful experience to make this work?

    No, this isn't an abortion, this is a miscarriage.

    The only reason a D & C was done was because you were miscarrying. Been there, done that, and it's not an abortion.
  • Jul 7, 2012, 02:57 PM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Alty View Post
    No, this isn't an abortion, this is a miscarriage.

    The only reason a D & C was done was because you were miscarrying. Been there, done that, and it's not an abortion.

    That's what I was looking for - not sure if OP knows.

    Yes, also been there.

    Tickle "got it" in #14 above.
  • Jul 7, 2012, 03:23 PM
    Mobley119
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    Why would this matter when it comes to employment and test levels?

    Because she seemed resistant to wanting to have it put in her file for why her pregnancy test came back positive. I was wondering if it was illegal where she was and that was why.
  • Jul 7, 2012, 03:37 PM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mobley119 View Post
    Because she seemed resistant to wanting to have it put in her file for why her pregnancy test came back positive. I was wondering if it was illegal where she was and that was why.

    I thought her question was whether she could pass the pre-employment physical. I don't see a concern about info on her permanent record. I'm reading: "I know that my pregnancy tests will show possitive for a while, but I got a job that requires me to do a pregnancy test. What can I do? I need to work and the test have to be done before I start working less than a month from now?"

    What am I missing?

    I don't see any resistence or reluctance on her part - "Because she seemed resistant to wanting to have it put in her file for why her pregnancy test came back positive."

    She wants the job. She can't get hired if she is (or tests indicate she is) pregnant. That's how I'm reading this.
  • Jul 7, 2012, 03:40 PM
    Mobley119
    She knew she was not going to pass it. Her question was what she could do about it.
  • Jul 7, 2012, 03:40 PM
    J_9
    To answer your question quite simply, you have an ultrasound done and provide the results to your employer.
  • Jul 7, 2012, 03:45 PM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by J_9 View Post
    To answer your question quite simply, you have an ultrasound done and provide the results to your employer.


    Is there a rule of thumb concerning how long a blood test would come back positive when you are no longer pregnant?

    I can't find that info.

    Onligcanhelp - are you concerned about testing positive and not being hired or testing positive and that will appear on your employment record?
  • Jul 7, 2012, 03:46 PM
    J_9
    It depends on how far along the patient was when she miscarried. The OP in this case had a miscarriage.
  • Jul 7, 2012, 03:57 PM
    onligcanhelp
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    Is there a rule of thumb concerning how long a blood test would come back positive when you are no longer pregnant?

    I can't find that info.

    Onligcanhelp - are you concerned about testing positive and not being hired or testing positive and that will appear on your employment record?

    My concern is not being able to go in August as opposed to 7 or more months from now. I have obligations that needs immediate attention
  • Jul 7, 2012, 03:59 PM
    JudyKayTee
    I understand - well, hopefully you can pass and get your dream job.

    I don't think there's anything else anyone can say and J9 makes a good suggestion - an ultrasound would end all guessing.
  • Jul 7, 2012, 04:06 PM
    tickle
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mobley119 View Post
    Because she seemed resistant to wanting to have it put in her file for why her pregnancy test came back positive. I was wondering if it was illegal where she was and that was why.

    No, if you read back, her abortion was not illegal where she is from; her job requires that she not be pregnant when she starts employment (it is on a cruise ship, so you can see why an employee can't be pregnant). Right now if she had a pregnancy test, it will come back positive as it has only been six days since the abortion; her body is still in pregnancy mode.
  • Jul 7, 2012, 07:31 PM
    Mobley119
    I know its not illegal I was the person who asked the question. I suggested that she show them proof that she isn't pregnant and have it put in her record if it the pregnancy test happened to come back positive.
  • Jul 7, 2012, 07:44 PM
    Alty
    Okay everyone, let's not hijack the thread.

    The question has been answered, the OP is no longer online. Let it be, okay? There are other questions that need answering, and some of the posters are very impatient for an answer, so let's hop to it.

    Big smiles everyone, like you mean it. :)

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