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  • May 30, 2007, 12:41 PM
    Megg
    Dear Mr. President
    The following song is written by Pink about a lot of things that make so much sense in so many levels. I love this song and I really wanted to share it. If you've heard it, but haven't taken time to really understand the words I've copied them down for you. I think Pink is a great artist and I am so glad she is not hiding her head in the sand with this song. Sure lots of people may not like it, but guess what its all truth and fact is fact. I think her song is the best ever written on this kind of subject. Every time I listen to it I almost cry. I think she's hit the nail on the head if you know what I mean. Anyway, here's the song that mean's so much to me...

    Dear Mr. President,
    Come take a walk with me.
    Let's pretend we're just two people and
    You're not better than me.
    I'd like to ask you some questions if we can speak honestly.

    What do you feel when you see all the homeless on the street?
    Who do you pray for at night before you go to sleep?
    What do you feel when you look in the mirror?
    Are you proud?

    How do you sleep while the rest of us cry?
    How do you dream when a mother has no chance to say goodbye?
    How do you walk with your head held high?
    Can you even look me in the eye
    And tell me why?

    Dear Mr. President,
    Were you a lonely boy?
    Are you a lonely boy?
    Are you a lonely boy?
    How can you say
    No child is left behind?
    We're not dumb and we're not blind.
    They're all sitting in your cells
    While you pave the road to hell.

    What kind of father would take his own daughter's rights away?
    And what kind of father might hate his own daughter if she were gay?
    I can only imagine what the first lady has to say
    You've come a long way from whiskey and cocaine.

    How do you sleep while the rest of us cry?
    How do you dream when a mother has no chance to say goodbye?
    How do you walk with your head held high?
    Can you even look me in the eye?

    Let me tell you 'bout hard work
    Minimum wage with a baby on the way
    Let me tell you 'bout hard work
    Rebuilding your house after the bombs took them away
    Let me tell you 'bout hard work
    Building a bed out of a cardboard box
    Let me tell you 'bout hard work
    Hard work
    Hard work
    You don't know nothing 'bout hard work
    Hard work
    Hard work
    Oh

    How do you sleep at night?
    How do you walk with your head held high?
    Dear Mr. President,
    You'd never take a walk with me.
    Would you?
    *Pink*

    Here's the url to the video:
    YouTube - P!nk - Dear Mr. President Offical Video

    I'd love to know what you think about this song and how it may have effected you. Songs do effect us in some ways, for good or bad. Thankyou.
  • May 30, 2007, 12:44 PM
    rockerchick_682
    I love Pink and everything she stands for
  • May 30, 2007, 12:47 PM
    Megg
    Right on to that one lol. I really love this song. It's good to see that some singers are REAL and woln't sell their souls for moolah. But I think this is my favorite song lol. Pink is a very honorable person.
  • May 30, 2007, 12:59 PM
    rockerchick_682
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Raynefreak
    Right on to that one lol. I really love this song. It's good to see that some singers are REAL and woln't sell their souls for moolah. But i think this is my favorite song lol. Pink is a very honorable person.

    Exactly she's REAL! And she's beautiful, she has her own style and her voice is amazing! I wish I could sing like her. I love stupid girls too, it's perfect and true. I also love who knew... even though it makes me sad but it also makes me feel calmer in a way cause I feel like I went through the same thing.

    And she's a badass lol
  • May 30, 2007, 01:06 PM
    ashleysb
    That is a good one. Another one that fits in this category is Bright Eye's "When the President Talks to God." Definitely one of my favorites.

    "When The President Talks To God"

    When the president talks to God
    Are the conversations brief or long?
    Does he ask to rape our women's' rights
    And send poor farm kids off to die?
    Does God suggest an oil hike
    When the president talks to God?

    When the president talks to God
    Are the consonants all hard or soft?
    Is he resolute all down the line?
    Is every issue black or white?
    Does what God say ever change his mind
    When the president talks to God?

    When the president talks to God
    Does he fake that drawl or merely nod?
    Agree which convicts should be killed?
    Where prisons should be built and filled?
    Which voter fraud must be concealed
    When the president talks to God?

    When the president talks to God
    I wonder which one plays the better cop
    We should find some jobs. The ghetto's broke
    No, they're lazy, George, I say we don't
    Just give 'em more liquor stores and dirty coke
    That's what God recommends

    When the president talks to God
    Do they drink near beer and go play golf
    While they pick which countries to invade
    Which Muslim souls still can be saved?
    I guess god just calls a spade a spade
    When the president talks to God

    When the president talks to God
    Does he ever think that maybe he's not?
    That that voice is just inside his head
    When he kneels next to the presidential bed
    Does he ever smell his own bullsh**
    When the president talks to God?

    I doubt it

    I doubt it
  • May 30, 2007, 04:48 PM
    Skell
    Powerful lyrics Rayne.

    Thanks for sharing!!
  • May 30, 2007, 05:01 PM
    JoeCanada76
    Very powerful song, Thank you for sharing it with all of us. You have touched many of us here. For sharing something so amazing and touching.

    Joe
  • May 30, 2007, 07:55 PM
    inthebox
    Good lyrics

    But should it not be directed at each one of us also?
    Is everything the President's fault?


    Grace and Peace
  • May 30, 2007, 09:14 PM
    Skell
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by inthebox
    Good lyrics

    but should it not be directed at each one of us also?

    No, not in my opinion.
  • May 31, 2007, 03:30 AM
    tomder55
    I would ask these artists to give practical policy options that they would do if they were in his shoes. I would say Pink's song is cruel ,unfair and naïve . The song by BrightEyes is just hateful .
  • May 31, 2007, 03:36 AM
    NeedKarma
    Ah the standard "let's see you do better" argument. Lots of better options were offered the president - he just vetoes them.

    Great songs BTW, thank you for sharing.
  • May 31, 2007, 03:39 AM
    Allheart
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by inthebox
    Good lyrics

    but should it not be directed at each one of us also?
    Is everything the President's fault?


    Grace and Peace


    Absolutely. My God, for everything to be on one man's shoulders. I just don't know.
    All I do know is, when I do get to talk to God, I will have to answer for an awful lot, and none of it will be the Presidents fault.

    I have to tell you, I pray for this man, I truly do. May God watch over him, and give his shoulders the strength to carry all that is on them. I am not saying I agree or disagree with the President, I am just praying for a man, just one man, who happens to be my President. Again, not saying I agree or disagree, like or dislike - just offering prayers for him.
  • May 31, 2007, 03:44 AM
    iAMfromHuntersBar
    Nice lyrics, but I'm with inthebox and tomder on this one!

    I bet if you gave either of these artist the Presidency, the USA would be ruined within a couple of months.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of George W. but I think it's easy to sit there and write songs against a sitting duck.

    Show me a country without problems where everyone is happy with their government.

    Nope, didn't think so!
  • May 31, 2007, 03:50 AM
    Allheart
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by iAMfromHuntersBar
    Nice lyrics, but I'm with inthebox and tomder on this one!

    I bet if you gave either of these artist the Presidency, the USA would be ruined within a couple of months.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of George W. but I think it's easy to sit there and write songs against a sitting duck.

    Show me a country without problems where everyone is happy with their government.

    Nope, didn't think so!


    ******Standing ovation******** Thank you so much for being the voice of reason and fairness.

    You have no idea how refreshing your words are. Thank you so much! I just love each and everyone of your words. You are not judging, you are being fair and reasonable.
    Thank you again!
  • May 31, 2007, 04:18 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by iAMfromHuntersBar
    Show me a country without problems where everyone is happy with their government.

    Nope, didn't think so!

    Here in Canada we seem to have a few less problems, our PM isn't facing impeachment from his own people and his rating hasn't plummeted. Plus I can travel around the world and not have people hate me for my country's policies. So there's one! They seem quite happy in many other countries. I'm not sure where you get your information.
  • May 31, 2007, 04:54 AM
    iAMfromHuntersBar
    According to the legend that is wikipedia Canada has a higher rate of unemployment and more people below the poverty line than the US, so Canada is far from perfect.

    I didn't state any facts in my last post, just opinion. I think you could go to any country on Earth and ask a group of people about how happy they are with their government and you'll get people who will complain!

    The USA has over 300 MILLION people in it, every single one with their own set of problems. I'm saying that you can't expect one man to sort them ALL out!
  • May 31, 2007, 04:56 AM
    Tuscany
    GWB is in a tough position... he is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. He has lost the trust of the American public, and the trust of other nations. Whomever takes over for him has a lot of rebuilding to do...

    I personally love Pink's song...
  • May 31, 2007, 08:13 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma
    I can travel around the world and not have people hate me for my country's policies.


    Let me quote a line from the movie "A Few Good Men "

    I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you," and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest that you pick up a weapon and stand a post.
  • May 31, 2007, 08:19 AM
    iAMfromHuntersBar
    I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you," and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest that you pick up a weapon and stand a post.

    Best place EVER for that quote, I'd give you a green if I could, but I think I already have recently! *Claps*
  • May 31, 2007, 08:32 AM
    NeedKarma
    Actually it makes no sense in the context. We have our own military and our own government. I'm confused here.

    GWB authorizes a $592 million embassy in Iraq, couldn't that money be better spent at home?

    Also, in that movie wasn't the character who uttered that statement found guilty of severely abusing his powers? Wait a minute... the quote is indeed pertinent!
  • May 31, 2007, 08:42 AM
    tomder55
    You Canadians do your little part. You have even been helpful in places like Afghanistan.

    The quote makes perfect sense in the context of travelling to other nations that live under the unbrella of US military protection.

    But ;I am curious... with the so called global warming threat ; is Canada prepared to beef up it's costal security when the Artctic Ocean becomes navigiable and a viable sea passage ? Are you prepared to dole out the funding to adequately defend your northern front ?
  • May 31, 2007, 08:43 AM
    NeedKarma
    Yes.
  • May 31, 2007, 12:45 PM
    Megg
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by iAMfromHuntersBar
    Nice lyrics, but I'm with inthebox and tomder on this one!

    I bet if you gave either of these artist the Presidency, the USA would be ruined within a couple of months.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of George W. but I think it's easy to sit there and write songs against a sitting duck.

    Show me a country without problems where everyone is happy with their government.

    Nope, didn't think so!

    Ok, for all posts regarding this type of comment, I think your completely off topic. And I totally disagree. Artists do not sing songs to appeal to YOU and YOUR way of thinking. Pink for example, writes songs that SHE wants to and if you don't like it ''F OFF'' in her words more or less. They don't write songs to please you, they do it for themsleves and for what they believe in. Given, not ALL artists do, but some. Pink was expressing HER veiws and opinions. She NEVER once said she wanted to BE prez or deal with the problems that a prez has to deal with. She never once said that she'd be BETTER than anyone. The point is, the prez and government IS what is wrong with this country the USA. If people want to speak out about it, then let them, maybe they will shed some light to dark places. I think its completely retarded to sit here and be like ''We shouldn't write songs about government because if we do then we must think we can do a better job.'' Or to think that they'd ruin this country. BULLSHIZ. I'd vote for Pink ANYDAY! She has a good heart, stregnth, courage, leadership abilities and well I think if she could be in the running she'd be a damn fine prez. But the point is to try to put words into her mouth and anyone's mouth that speaks against the government, well I think your rude and clearly you do not agree with freedooom of speech so lets go back to the 1300's why don't we. No one EVER said that every country is perfect. But if we'd get off our high horse and stop blindly following the government and actually do something to change it or build the foundations of change then we'd be getting somewhere. If you ask me, song writters on these subjects ARE changing the world. One heart at a time.
  • May 31, 2007, 01:08 PM
    ashleysb
    As Rayne said, the artists never said they could do better at being president. They wrote these songs from their point of view. But never the less, when you take a job, no one forces you into it. It is your choice. Therefore you are expected to do that job whether you answer to a boss or a whole country. And unfortunately, Mr. Bush has let a lot of Americans down. And if these artists want to share their feelings about it, they have a right to do it. If you don't agree, don't listen. It's that simple. Just remember, these people didn't run for office, they didn't tell Americans, "I will do this," or "I will do that." President Bush did that, and these people feel let down by his actions. So if they want to write a song about his choices, too bad so sad, they can.
  • May 31, 2007, 01:52 PM
    navy_sr_chief
    When you get older, your post will seem laughable to you. Remember the old saying “If you are not a liberal when you are young... you have no heart. If you are not a conservative when you are old... you have no brain. ...” I know you will totally disagree and say you will never change, but you will. It happens to all of us. It’s amazing how a couple of years of paying taxes, working, and raising kids can change your political view.
  • May 31, 2007, 02:04 PM
    Megg
    Who are we to jugde? Who are we to think 20 years makes a difference... it really doesn't. Paying taxes and having a family changes nothing. Maybe for the waek people. Today's youth will be tomorrow's future give way and get used to the idea. Not all of us are naïve. Not all of us are going to lay down and play dead.
  • May 31, 2007, 02:07 PM
    alkalineangel
    Its unfair to tell someone disagreeing with the lyrics that they are off topic, when you don't consider yourself off topic by agreeing with them. This is a site for opinions and those people were giving them. I like the song, and I give Pink and other artists like her a hand for standing up and voicing their beliefs. That's what our country is for. But I agree with the others that it isn't all on the president. I agree that he is a very poor speaker, and tends to make our country look dumb, and I would rather there be someone else in office, but blaming everything on him is stupid when he is influenced by many other powers in our government. There is this little thing called checks and balances, the president is not solely responsible for everything that he does. It goes through many many many people.
  • May 31, 2007, 02:14 PM
    navy_sr_chief
    Addressed to wrong person
    Rayne,
    You just proved my point. I was right when I said you would disagree with me and tell me you will never change. If I have the wisdom to know your answer before you even respond, what makes you think I will be wrong about the fact that your politics will change as you gain life experience? Trust me, the change will happen. Remember, your Grandparents were part of the hippie Height / Ashbury Generation. Do they share the same political views as you? See… Everyone changes.
  • May 31, 2007, 02:25 PM
    inthebox
    Rayne :

    Can you please link us to sites demonstrating Pink's humanitarian efforts?

    Your idealism is admirable

    But the negativity and chatter {on both sides} is tiresome.

    I know I don't have the patience, thick skin, communication skills, diplomacy to be President for a day. I don't agree with GWB [ medicare D, immigration to name a few ]
    Also, but would not the world be better if:
    - everyone was personally responsible - instead of trying to blame others
    - everyone focused on the good and positive of others, because none of us is perfect.




    Grace and Peace
  • May 31, 2007, 02:31 PM
    rockerchick_682
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by navy_sr_chief
    When you get older, your post will seem laughable to you. Remember the old saying “If you are not a liberal when you are young... you have no heart. If you are not a conservative when you are old... you have no brain. ...” I know you will totally disagree and say you will never change, but you will. It happens to all of us. It's amazing how a couple of years of paying taxes, working, and raising kids can change your political view.

    Actually I'm quite young, so no, I've never heard that saying. I agree with Pink's views totally. There are homeless on the street, do something about it. People hate gays cause that's what their religion says, not cause it's their own opinion. If you love someone else why can't you marry them, no matter what gender you both are? You really think that just cause we're young we don't know what change is? What? You never went through high school? Our troops are dying cause our dumbass president sent us into a pointless war. I don't give a sh%t how old you are buddy, that doesn't give me a reason to respect you. Just cause I haven't had the chance to have a family doesn't mean I don't have a grip on life. I think it's great that Pink wrote a song about her views, she's one of the only ones that can get her views heard. If new generations never pressed their views on their elders, where would we be now?
  • May 31, 2007, 02:33 PM
    alkalineangel
    Also take into consideration the fact that our economy is really doing well right now, our stock markets are at an all time high, and compared to many other countries our health is amazing. We are making great advances thanks to our government. It has its problems, but in all reality wouldn't you admit that we are doing very well compared to other countries? As for the war. What decision would you have made in the same situation as him? Like I said, I'm not a big fan of GWB either, but I think he has done the best he could with a bad situation.

    As for the Gay and Lesbian issues, I agree something needs to be done, the government should not control that, but I am not willing to give up our government for another are you?
  • May 31, 2007, 02:42 PM
    Megg
    Preach it Rockerchick... I totally am with you. You are just rude to us because were young.. 21 isn't a kid... lol. I find old people anoying. Move out of the way if you don't like young people. Just deal with it. Join us or fight us. Whatever.


    Ohh and our country has tons of problems your just ignoring them
  • May 31, 2007, 02:43 PM
    navy_sr_chief
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rockerchick_682
    Actually I'm quite young, so no, I've never heard that saying. I agree with Pink's views totally. There are homeless on the street, do something about it. People hate gays cause that's what their religion says, not cause it's their own opinion. If you love someone else why can't you marry them, no matter what gender you both are? You really think that just cause we're young we don't know what change is? What? You never went through high school? Our troops are dying cause our dumbass president sent us into a pointless war. I don't give a sh%t how old you are buddy, that doesn't give me a reason to respect you. Just cause I haven't had the chance to have a family doesn't mean I don't have a grip on life. I think it's great that Pink wrote a song about her views, she's one of the only ones that can get her views heard. If new generations never pressed their views on their elders, where would we be now?

    Rockerchick,
    Thank you for your concern for the troops - considering I am one and have served in the Middle East in support of the Global War on Terrorism and will probably go back again before I retire from active duty. Just remember, if it were not for the sacrifices of the generations before you, you would not have the freedom to speak you mind in this forum.
  • May 31, 2007, 02:43 PM
    inthebox
    Rayne :


    My point was that it is easy to talk the talk but who really walks the walk?

    Pink is doing the talking - which she is entitled to do
    Is she walking the walk?



    Grace and Peace
  • May 31, 2007, 02:44 PM
    NeedKarma
    inthebox,

    What are YOU doing to make your country better?
  • May 31, 2007, 02:48 PM
    Megg
    From what I know of her, she does charities which is more then enough. A lot of people do the talk and walk. As for me, just so you can't try to push this on me in the future... I come here and give advice for me that's enough.
  • May 31, 2007, 02:52 PM
    navy_sr_chief
    Raynefreak,

    I have nothing against young people. Hell, I have yet to hit 40 myself. I just hate to see people such a limited life experience making such bold statements when everyone knows it's just the ignorance of youth speaking. By the way, if you and your generation are going to takeover the world, please for God's sake, take someone with you to proof read your propaganda. Otherwise, none of us is ever going to know what the heck you are trying to get across in your rants.
  • May 31, 2007, 02:52 PM
    alkalineangel
    I agree that we have homelessness, and that the government tends to try and control things like marriage laws that they shouldn't have a right to, but I still am not against a war that is doing good in a country that needed help. Don't you think those people deserved to live lives of their choosing, instead of the choosing of a dictator? Is it right for someone to think they can come here on our soil and disrupt thousands of lives in a matter of minutes? It is sad that the men and women fighting may die and that mothers may never say goodbye, but those soldiers signed up for their job. It was their decision to go there. They are defending our freedoms and that was their choice... and most of them would do it all over again if given the opportunity.
  • May 31, 2007, 02:54 PM
    inthebox
    Need karma:

    Not much

    I pay taxes
    I work with veterans
    I pray
    Adopted 3 children


    I definitely could do more though




    Grace and peace
  • May 31, 2007, 02:55 PM
    Megg
    I didn't imply that our youth is going to ''take over the world'' like Hitler or some kind of king. It's just we are growing up and getting older and the older are gettting older and dying off. If you refer to my spelling I can spell, just not perfect. I also don't think I rant and if I do sorry but I like to debate and talk about my thoughts. If people would do that more often the world may be a better place and more people would be understood.

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