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  • Feb 21, 2008, 02:55 PM
    xphelper
    I wouldn't miss Bill when it comes to morals as he was the only president to get "caught cheating" on his first lady "in" the white house. Yes, I know others did it but they didn't get caught officially.
  • Feb 21, 2008, 02:56 PM
    mirandycc
    At least bill was man enough to admit when he made a mistake
  • Feb 21, 2008, 03:06 PM
    xphelper
    He only admitted that mistake after denying it repeatedly and with his back to the wall. In my opinion that is not an honorable admission. All in all, he was still a nice guy though...
  • Feb 21, 2008, 03:07 PM
    NeedKarma
    Well one thing's for sure, subsequent presidents will feel the pinch by the fiscal problems left by the Bush tenure.
  • Mar 11, 2008, 06:12 PM
    Galveston1
    I don't claim to be a political pundit, but I predict that history will rate G.W. Bush much more highly than his approval ratings show right now. You know, the only difference in most of the spending during the last 7+ years is that the Dems have complained that not enough was being spent on several programs.
  • Mar 11, 2008, 07:05 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Galveston1
    I don't claim to be a political pundit, but I predict that history will rate G.W. Bush much more highly than his approval ratings show right now. You know, the only difference in most of the spending during the last 7+ years is that the Dems have complained that not enough was being spent on several programs.

    Studies: Iraq costs US $12B per month - Yahoo! News

    Studies: Iraq costs US $12B per month
  • Mar 11, 2008, 07:14 PM
    George_1950
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mirandycc
    At least bill was man enough to admit when he made a mistake

    You mean, "perjury bill"? "disbarred bill?" What did your "bill" ever admit?
  • Mar 11, 2008, 07:25 PM
    BABRAM
    Congresses approval rating is right there with car salesman and IRS auditors. But don't look past the fact that when Dubya retires he'll simply go off to his ranch in Crawford, Texas and continue to get "attaboy" pats on the back from his friends of upper class wealth and the die-hard constituents from his administration. The Bush clan will blow it up W's rear about how the old man and him were father and son presidents. However, realistically Herbert started with trickle down economics that didn't work and G. Walker leaves us in a recession. Although much of his presidency could be graded incomplete with nine-eleven so early as his first term, he is still out of touch. The man was oblivious to the recent gas prices that are now rising again. Let's just say twenty years from now we double his approval rating from what it was few months ago, a lowly twenty-five to fifty percent. Still unsatisfactory considering a nation divided.
  • Mar 11, 2008, 07:55 PM
    George_1950
    [QUOTE=BABRAM]Congresses approval rating is right there with car salesman and IRS auditors. But don't look past the fact that when Dubya retires he'll simply go off to his ranch in Crawford, Texas and continue to get "attaboy" pats on the back from his friends of upper class wealth and the die-hard constituents from his administration. QUOTE]
    IF W were to end his term with no further attacks on American soil, his presidency will be a success; there is no guarantee. Remember, he came into his first term with the intelligence provided by eight years of Clinton the Playboy, during whose eight years the military and intelligence were compromised resulting in the tragedy of 9/11. So he finishes in a recession; he began in a recession. Let's just compromise on that point and call it the 'business cycle'.
  • Mar 11, 2008, 08:54 PM
    BABRAM
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by George_1950
    IF W were to end his term with no further attacks on American soil, his presidency will be a success; there is no guarantee. Remember, he came into his first term with the intelligence provided by eight years of Clinton the Playboy, during whose eight years the military and intelligence were compromised resulting in the tragedy of 9/11. So he finishes in a recession; he began in a recession. Let's just compromise on that point and call it the 'business cycle'.

    I keep waiting for Dubya to admit the economy went sour under his administration. Probably won't happen, will it? Considering he was given two terms of "business cycle", he now leaves us facing a much deeper recession than what he inherited and that's not progress for a president twice elected by electoral votes, once by popular count. George, although the subject is W's legacy, you and I probably agree that we've seen enough of the Bush and Clinton clans for a lifetime, and for various reasons.
  • Mar 12, 2008, 11:45 AM
    N0help4u
    I believe his legacy is going to be
    He set everything up for the next President to finalize globalization
    -just for one thing-He left the borders open intentionally -NEVER had any intention of 'closing' them -just for one!
  • Mar 12, 2008, 10:04 PM
    ineedhelpfast
    I think in the circumstances that he was in, he did all right. Someon could have done better, but who, like it was stated earlier depends on how the iraq situation turns out.
  • Mar 15, 2008, 07:05 PM
    magprob
    Of all the brilliant people in the United States, that was our only choice. Come on now, you know it was rigged.
  • Mar 15, 2008, 07:21 PM
    N0help4u
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by magprob
    Of all the brilliant people in the United States, that was our only choice. Come on now, you know it was rigged.

    Yeah it was rigged and we got the choice of rotten choice or more rotten choice.
  • Mar 15, 2008, 07:44 PM
    magprob
    And Kerry? A complete dope. Who picks these people? Are the Marx brothers still alive in a back room of the White House writing this script? "They gonna love this!" "Bonk Bonk!"
  • Mar 15, 2008, 09:15 PM
    George_1950
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by magprob
    And Kerry? A complete dope. Who picks these people? Are the Marx brothers still alive in a back room of the White House writing this script? "They gonna love this!" "Bonk Bonk!"

    It's called democracy. Anyone ever wonder why women were not voting until 1920?
  • Mar 15, 2008, 09:38 PM
    magprob
    Uhmmm, because they were all barefoot and pregnant?
  • Mar 17, 2008, 11:16 AM
    magprob
    ineedhelpfast disagrees: that's cause you believe that conspiracy.

    And you believe everything Bush tells you. I don't know which is most pathetic.
  • Mar 18, 2008, 08:08 PM
    ineedhelpfast
    The pathetic thing is that you think you know what I think.. are you serious, you probably are that's why you wrote that.:rolleyes:
  • Mar 19, 2008, 05:03 AM
    magprob
    I know you are but what am I?
  • Mar 19, 2008, 09:06 PM
    ineedhelpfast
    Lol, I don't know spam
  • Mar 19, 2008, 09:18 PM
    magprob
    Spam Head.
  • Mar 24, 2008, 07:02 AM
    Credendovidis
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by EIFS EXPERT
    Since George W. Bush is nearing the end of his term, what do you think his legacy will be?

    You really want a serious answer to that?
    It all depends on if you ask that to a small selection of rather conservative American voters, or to the overall majority of humanity...
    :rolleyes:
  • Mar 24, 2008, 11:41 PM
    magprob
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by EIFS EXPERT
    Since George W. Bush is nearing the end of his term, what do you think his legacy will be?

    OK, OK, here is what I think his legacy will be:

    Monkeys will be allowed to vote. What? They already do? Oh... well... nevermind.
  • Apr 5, 2008, 12:37 PM
    Galveston1
    Things seem to be deteoriating as far as inflation goes, but I am thankful that neither Gore or Kerry are at the helm!
  • Apr 5, 2008, 01:31 PM
    magprob
    Doesn't matter who is at the helm. The private bankers are running the show. The part that really counts anyway. That's the problem.
  • Apr 23, 2008, 04:01 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    boredINmind disagrees: Maybe in New York things are looking good, but here in Arkansas hundreds of people are out of jobs due to layoffs. 4 factories off the top of my head laid-off and 1 major factory is closing. That's just in a 50 mile radius of my house.
    And how were things when your man the slick one was running things in Arkansas ?Except for the few businesses in the Arkansas Development Finance Authority the rest were in the crapper or run out of business. The only thing that went up in Arkansas was the suicide rate and the bulge in Billy 's pants .
  • Apr 23, 2008, 10:27 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx
    boredINmind disagrees: When my mom and all of my friends were laid-off and started looking for jobs that just ain't there, I should have just told them that it is their fault. Blaming the leader of our country for a SILLY little economic depression due to his WAR! SILLY ME

    Hey bored, how much power do you actually think the president has over the economy? Who made him responsible for your mom and friends keeping their jobs or finding new ones? Who said this alleged depression was due to the war? You missed my point entirely which is regardless of the reality, the left and the mainstream media WANT a recession. They've been driving the discussion on the economy and it's all fear, all depressing, all Bush's fault all the time. They have a vested interest in your misery as they believe it will help them get their way in the election, so we can listen to the fear mongering from the left and the media and wallow in self pity, waiting for government to rescue us - or we can reject their assault, pick ourselves up, and show them what America is made of. I choose the latter, and I'm offended that our supposed rescuers don't mind if we're miserable as long as they win.
  • Apr 23, 2008, 11:58 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx
    tomder55 agrees: Steve you sound like a gun totin bible tumpin anti-immigrant bitter person.
    George_1950 agrees: Charter member of the vast, right-wing conspiracy.

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  • Apr 23, 2008, 12:12 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx
    Hey bored, how much power do you actually think the president has over the economy? Who made him responsible for your mom and friends keeping their jobs or finding new ones? Who said this alleged depression was due to the war? You missed my point entirely which is regardless of the reality, the left and the mainstream media WANT a recession. They've been driving the discussion on the economy and it's all fear, all depressing, all Bush's fault all the time. They have a vested interest in your misery as they believe it will help them get their way in the election, so we can listen to the fear mongering from the left and the media and wallow in self pity, waiting for government to rescue us - or we can reject their assault, pick ourselves up, and show them what America is made of. I choose the latter, and I'm offended that our supposed rescuers don't mind if we're miserable as long as they win.

    Hahahahahhahahahahahha!! Look at your buddy tomder's post above where he blames Arkansas' economic downturn on Clinton.

    Here I'll post it for you:
    Quote:

    and how were things when your man the slick one was running things in Arkansas ?Except for the few businesses in the Arkansas Development Finance Authority the rest were in the crapper or run out of business. The only thing that went up in Arkansas was the suicide rate and the bulge in Billy 's pants .
    You guys are so fanatical it's funny! LOL!
  • Apr 23, 2008, 01:34 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma
    Hahahahahhahahahahahha!! Look at your buddy tomder's post above where he blames Arkansas' economic downturn on Clinton.

    Gee NK, you'd think by now you'd get that I'm not so easily ridiculed. All I got out of tom's post was a comparison of Arkansas under Clinton, would you mind pointing out exactly where he "blames Arkansas' economic downturn on Clinton?"

    Quote:

    You guys are so fanatical it's funny! LOL!
    Well, I can't speak for tom but I think it's interesting that those of us more concerned with reality than perception are the ones you consider 'fanatical.' :D

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