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  • Sep 16, 2009, 01:13 PM
    melindaj2

    TJ's transformers have ground wire but the power that is provided to the public does not and TJ does not have GFI' supplies? Would there be a workaround?
    Could I get them at say homedepot or any suggestions?
  • Sep 16, 2009, 04:14 PM
    hkstroud
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    Yes, you should be able to get a GFI outlet at Home Depot. Looks like below and fits regular outlet box. Some come with cover plate, some do not. Cover plate is just a regular outlet cover plate with square opening. GFI installs almost like regular outlet.

    Seeing as how close the outlet is to the shower it is important for your safety to install a GFI outlet. If you had a hair drier plugged in a regular outlet and it got wet because you did not close the shower curtain completely, you would get shocked. With the GFI outlet it would trip off as soon as you turned the hair dryer on, thus preventing you from getting shocked.
  • Sep 16, 2009, 07:40 PM
    melindaj2

    You are great Harold!! Thank you so much. I will get a bunch of them and have him install them.

    Today we took the day off and when walking all day at the park! :)
    Cheers!
  • Sep 16, 2009, 07:46 PM
    hkstroud

    GFI's are normally only used in certain places, kitchens, baths, outdoors. They can be used any where you like though.
  • Sep 19, 2009, 10:12 AM
    melindaj2
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    UPDATE - I think today is the big day.. for now here is a picture of the tub and shower faucet installed not dried yet and still need a couple of things done but water does run.Attachment 24720

    Attachment 24721
  • Sep 19, 2009, 10:26 AM
    speedball1
    Melinda,

    You guys did a great job. A professional couldn't have done better. Give yourselves a pat on the back and take a two week vacation in Aruba. Tom
  • Sep 19, 2009, 12:43 PM
    mygirlsdad77

    I agree, very nice job. Looks like all you need is the waste and overflow and your all set. And let us know how you enjoy Aruba. Lee.
  • Dec 4, 2009, 12:10 PM
    melindaj2

    Well, we are back at it. The dreaded moment was here and NO hot water. My husband placed the tile, and sealed everything before trying to see if there was hot water or not. Only cold water. He looked at the handle on wall and took that apart to see if it was allowing only cold water in and he said all was OK. Water pressure is OK. The sink next to it gets hot and cold water. I hope someone can help us out of this mess... I want to use my bathtub. :(
    I saw a link a while back about not getting any water and I can't find that link anymore.
  • Dec 4, 2009, 01:02 PM
    cyberheater
    Do you have "shut offs" for the water supply behind the wall directly for the shower? I know, sounds too easy, but it is common to forget about it. If so, check to make sure the hot water supply valve is on that supplies the shower. If not, post back.
  • Dec 4, 2009, 03:03 PM
    melindaj2

    No there no water supply shut offs directly behind for the shower. The unit has adjustable valves to regulate the pressure - the one on the right is cold water and cold water comes out fine. The one on the right you turn it all the way and a trickle of water comes out barely none.
  • Dec 4, 2009, 03:08 PM
    melindaj2
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  • Dec 5, 2009, 04:39 AM
    cyberheater
    I re-read your post. You said that your husband took off the handle of this faucet? "All is okay" with both hot and cold when he tried with the faucet handle/etc . Off? Does that mean he is getting both hot and cold water with the valve/faucet off? (If he hasn't done this, have him flush both lines. He should be able to disconnect at the valve and run both hot and cold).

    If so, then it may be that when he put in the new faucet, crud got into that new faucet cart. (clean it out). Was the cart/handle put on correctly? (you are getting cold, but I have to ask).

    Can you tell me the faucet brand? For now, have him clean out the new cartridge - just to be sure. When you make changes and/or install new faucets - sometimes it disturbes gunk the lines and it clogs up the new cartridge.
  • Dec 5, 2009, 05:58 AM
    hkstroud
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    Probably have solder in stop valves from soldering up pipes. Turn off water to house, remove valve, turn on water for a few seconds to flush out pipe.
  • Dec 5, 2009, 06:25 AM
    cyberheater

    Okay, I looked right passed the pic. Good Morning Harold! Good to know you are bright eyed and bushy tailed, and right on as usual. (smile)
  • Dec 6, 2009, 08:57 PM
    melindaj2

    Thank you so so much... and thank you for the picture.
    My husband did open the stop valves but only cold water (only the right one gushes water out) I guess after reading this to him he realize this was very much simple if he didn't seal the back... no he needs to take the back out so he can remove the valve. Again Thank you - my husband is on the right track again. I will let you know. Some previously mentioned (I think it was Harold) to make sure to test the shower before closing everything off and my husband forgot.
  • Dec 6, 2009, 10:27 PM
    Milo Dolezal

    All should be accessible through this opening...

    Question: when you unscrewed the hot water stop - and turned water ON - was there any water coming out ?
  • Dec 7, 2009, 05:30 AM
    hkstroud
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    No need to remove the entire shower valve, just remove the stop valve.
  • Dec 10, 2009, 02:17 PM
    melindaj2
    Thank you Harold and thank you so much for the drawing. My husband did remove it AND there was water!! But not when he puts it back on. And if you didn't do the drawing he would have kept it a secrete. He had done this all a long. That is why he still reluctant to open the back.

    Also, thank you Milo for bringing it up - my husband just forgot to mentioned that he already did this. I guess now, where do we go from here. My husband will try to blow air through and then let the water run and see what happens.
  • Dec 10, 2009, 03:30 PM
    melindaj2

    Well, my husband could not resist and is now taking down the wall. Can't stop him now. I will let you know what happens.
  • Dec 10, 2009, 03:57 PM
    mygirlsdad77

    Sorry to hear he is tearing out the wall. Did he remove the third unmentioned nut? The one on the right side (just left of the shut off). Its been a long time since I worked on one of these, but something tells me that this is your tempering valve, which could have become plugged. Try removing it and cleaning it if its not to late. Good luck.

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