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  • May 29, 2009, 09:18 PM
    jjustinia

    I did not know about the street drain adapter! I will see if I can get that at the plubming Supply store! Thanks!

    I had to get a kholer extended drain to fit the extra deep tub. The tail piece coming off it is 1 1/2. So I was planning on putting the drain and over flow on and then dry fitting and adjusting the trap, before I glue. Then cementing the tub into place. I wanted to get the matching drain which was 1 1/2 so I would not have acompatibilty problem with the tub. There always seems to be something that goes wrong. I was trying to limit the variable. Thanks for the advice I will take all I can get!
  • May 29, 2009, 09:22 PM
    Milo Dolezal

    I really enjoyed conversing with you. You seem to know what you are doing... even it is past midnight in NY... :D

    Good luck and let us know how you did ! Milo
  • May 29, 2009, 09:27 PM
    jjustinia

    Thank you for all your help. Off to cutting PVC I go!
  • Jun 1, 2009, 09:22 AM
    jjustinia

    Update. I have cut out the old PVC and the plan agreed upon above will work, but the copper hot water line is getting in the way. I can not figure out how to get the water around the PVC with out using over 4 different 90 elbows to practically box around where the PVC line will travel. What are thoughts about running the copper line with so many sharp bends? Will that be a problem?
  • Jun 12, 2009, 12:22 PM
    jjustinia
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    Help, drain is leaking


    I need some real help now. I have redone all the plumbing, installed the tub with mortar, attached the drain and connected everything. The problem is there is a leak right where the p-trap connects to the tail piece of the tub drain. No matter how much I tighten the compression nut on the p-trap water bubbles up when I let a large volume of water out of the tub. I took pictures of what I am talking about. It now seems that when I turn the nut too far it slips on the thread and loosens up. The PVC does not seem to be strong enough for me to get it tight enough to stop the leak. I did not over turn it initially. In fact, it started too loose and I progressively made it tighter and tighter, testing while I went along. The leaked remained but got better, until the nut slipped on the thread. I don't know what to do, everything to so jammed in there I have no room to work and the drain and tub are cemented in. I really need your advice as I am at a stand still and all that work and money is at risk. Please help! The top two red arrows show where I see the water bubbling out, around the nut. The bottom arrow show a drop of water.
  • Jun 12, 2009, 12:30 PM
    Milo Dolezal

    I see in the 1st photo that there is a small opening between white nut and wall of the 1 1/2" brass pipe. It should not be there. That tells me the trap and vertical brass pipe are not plumbed on each other.

    Now, the white nut has V-shaped "washer" incorporated on the inside of the nut. That V-shaped washer has to fit between the pipe and adapter during tightening. In your case, it appears like it is not in all the way in.

    Unscrew the white nut completely and screw it in again. By hand only. It should go easily up to the last 1 turn. Then apply pressure by hand. (the white nut will seal when screwed in by hand. No tools are needed here...).

    If you stripped the thread on the white nut - then you will have to replace it. Or, use 2" x 1 1/2" Flex Seal coupling. It will work on first try - guaranteed.

    We don't like the "direct / rigid" connection in situations like yours, especially when we are dealing with jetted tubs. Flex Seal coupling will make soft connection between tub and drain absorbing all vibration. Also, it makes tub installation a snap.
  • Jun 12, 2009, 03:59 PM
    jjustinia

    Thanks, you are right the trap and tail piece were out of alignment. I actually think I got it. Tell me what you think. I went a purchased a metal slip nut and a separate compression washer. I unscrewed the tail piece and sliped out the plastic nut and replaced it with the metal nut and washer. I snuged it up and all was well! I was also able to give the trap a little play by removing a shim I put in next to the vent that was making it to rigid and pushing out of center with the tail piece. I just ran the jets and drained the tub and saw no water at all. I saw your comment after and a flex seal connection would have been good for vibrations separation. Do you think what I did is sufficient?? I really appreciate your advice!
  • Jun 12, 2009, 04:03 PM
    Milo Dolezal

    If it doesn't leak - you did well. I would check on it few times in the future just to make sure is holds the seal. Otherwise, good job !
  • Jun 13, 2009, 01:07 PM
    jjustinia

    Thanks! It seems to be holding fine. It is clearly much better than before, better alignment and the nylon washer clearly is in the correct position. That metal nut clamps right down on it. The plastic nut seems to be too delicate and the incorporated nut does a really bad job. Movingforward I am always going to replace the plastic nut with a metal nut and nylon washer. It just seems like solid combination. Thanks again for the words of encouragment , Its good to know that I did not do something wrong and be able to enjoy the outcome.

    Thanks!
  • Jun 13, 2009, 01:09 PM
    Milo Dolezal

    Glad to be of help!

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