Any tips about frame ,and can I run the drain through the washer drain?


Thank you

Hi Ozzie...

Framing should be as directed by the manufacturer of the unit... remember that the unit will be perfectly square... walls should be, too! Never a bad idea to frame about 1/8" larger than manufacturer spec...o.k. (but no larger)? Be sure to check if the manufacturer recommends setting the shower unit in a bedding substrate such as plaster or structolite.

In terms of the drain, it should be possible to connect into the washing machine drain (underground or in cellar), but you will also be required to VENT the shower or could have poor result!

Post this question over in the plumbing forum and we'll see what we can come up with... ;)

Thank you... MARK

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Originally Posted by massplumber2008

Hi Ozzie...

Framing should be as directed by the manufacturer of the unit...remember that the unit will be perfectly square....walls should be, too! Never a bad idea to frame about 1/8" larger than manufacturer spec...o.k. (but no larger)? Be sure to check if the manufacturer recommends setting the shower unit in a bedding substrate such as plaster or structolite.

In terms of the drain, it should be possible to connect into the washing machine drain (underground or in cellar), but you will also be required to VENT the shower or could have poor end result!

Post this question over in the plumbing forum and we'll see what we can come up with...;)

Thank you...MARK

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Thank you so much for your answer.the manufacturer spec.. Did not say anything about setting the unit in a bedding.and I have in bathroom drain underground and adrain for washer machine (pip above the ground about 10'' )and what you mean about vent the shower?
Thank you again for your help

This is the first time in my life thinking to do it myself

Asem

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Originally Posted by ozzi1967

thank you so much for your answer.the manufacturer spec.. did not say anything about setting the unit in a bedding.and i have in bathroom drain underground and adrain for washer machine (pip above the ground about 10'' )and what you mean about vent the shower?
thank you again for your help

this is the first time in my life thinking to do it my self

asem

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I hope this will help

Hi Ozzie...

The VENT is very important here. Without a vent the shower drain could get siphoned dry when the washing machine drains and that could lead to sewer gasses entering into the home... very unhealthy!

You can use the washing machine vent pipe and the washing machine drain line if 2" drain pipe. Here, you would attach into the 2" washing machine drain pipe underground and just before installing the PTRAP you would take off a wye fitting and run an 1.5" pipe (minimum) up to about 48" off the finished floor and you would connect this pipe into the VENT PIPE for the washing machine drain line.

This can be a bit involved. Look up venting on this site using search or go to www.google.com and check out information on venting a shower.

Pop back here with any questions. We are glad to help if we can... :) Honestly, ask away as needed!

MARK

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Originally Posted by massplumber2008

Hi Ozzie...

The VENT is very important here. Without a vent the shower drain could get siphoned dry when the washing machine drains and that could lead to sewer gasses entering into the home....very unhealthy!!

You can use the washing machine vent pipe and the washing machine drain line if 2" drain pipe. Here, you would attach into the 2" washing machine drain pipe underground and just before installing the PTRAP you would take off a wye fitting and run an 1.5" pipe (minimum) up to about 48" off the finished floor and you would connect this pipe into the VENT PIPE for the washing machine drain line.

This can be a bit involved. Look up venting on this site using search or go to www.google.com and check out information on venting a shower.

Pop back here with any questions. We are glad to help if we can...:) Honestly, ask away as needed!

MARK

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Hi Mark
Can you draw pic on how to run the pipe's that would be grateful

Thanks

Hi Ozzie:

Here you go... let me know if you have questions...

MARK

Hi Mark
What I am thinking is raise up shower base about 8'' above the ground and then attach it to 2' pip washer machine drain +vent as you say all above the ground


Mark
If I do that should I
Set the shower unit in a bedding substrate such as plaster or structolite

Hi Ozzi...

If you have the head room then there is no reason this can't be done above the floor. What kind of pipe material above ground? Cast iron or PVC??

The setting substrate is determined by manufacturer... some say OK, some say no and that it voids warranty as some substrates will crack certain materials... *UGH*! If the manufacturer is not clear on this then call them if possible... start with parts dept. if necessary, but get to technical department and ask them if you can set the unit in mortar, structolite, plaster, sand, etc...

For fun, here is a thread that I worked on awhile back now:

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/plumbi...om-252241.html

Mechanickid wanted to build above the floor... we talked about it and he decided to go below the floor (most of that discussion was deleted for some reason)...

Check it out... long post (over 100), but you will learn a lot about what you are doing.

Pop back as you need to... :)

MARK

I I want to use ABS PIPE

THANK YOU

ABS pipe is fine here. Keep me posted as you go!

Hi Mark

Can I connect the drain to this adapter shows in pic this where dishwasher drain is

Thank youAttachment 17504

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Techincally, you aren't supposed to connect into a cleanout like you propose...

Let me know the answers to the following questions... OK?

How far away is the shower from here? What fixtures are connected to BOTH these pipes?

Once I know the answers I can tell you best option...

MARK

Around 2 feet and there are washer and pipe coming from kitchen sink down to to this pipe

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In my area you can't connect a shower or tub onto a drain line from a kitchen sink that comes from above. Here, if the underground drain line blocked up, the kitchen sink could drain into the shower for days before anyone noticed a problem... that make sense..?

Hmmm... of course, you may not have a choice here.. right? Any other drains near here that you could connect into?

Let me know... and give me a day to consult with a couple other plumbers online here... see what they think or what code permits in their area.. ok?

Where are you from Ozzie?

MARK

Double posted by mistake sorry

Canada ,alberta


Thank you mark

Codes differ from state to state here in the USA... never mind from country to country! Are you having this inspected by anyone?

Either way, it can't hurt to call a local plumbing inspector and ask him about connecting a shower on the 1st floor to a kitchen sink drain line coming from the 2nd floor (or basement and 1st floor).

If you plan on selling the house down the road, doing this by code with a permit is always the best route!

Let me know...

Yes there is another drain see pic and I am trying to do the job with your help so no one is coming to inspect afterAttachment 17530

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