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  • Sep 23, 2011, 06:24 AM
    takakoiwamoto
    How to determine if french drain is working
    I have installed a french drain recently about 4-5 feet from the house using EZ-drain system. (my house was buile in 1968) I also have an interior drain in the basement w/o sump pump (my house sits on the hill and uses natural gravity to carry out the water.) How do I determine whether the newly installed french drain is working? There is a small gap (interior drain) between the wall and the foundation I can stick the finger. Thanks.
  • Sep 23, 2011, 07:38 AM
    speedball1
    If you're asking how to test the new french drain then take a hose and see if it drains away. French drains are simple. If you drain slopes to a outlet away from your house it should work just fine. Good luck, Tom
  • Sep 23, 2011, 09:23 AM
    takakoiwamoto
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    Originally Posted by speedball1 View Post
    If you're asking how to test the new french drain then take a hose and see if it drains away. French drains are simple. If you drain slopes to a outlet away from your house it should work just fine. Good luck, Tom

    If I water the french drain, it will run off to the both side of the french drain. Because, it is covered with clay soil forming a small mound. I have to wait until the rain settles it to test .
  • Sep 23, 2011, 10:37 AM
    speedball1
    The way you describe it you should have no problems. In my book you've done everything by the book. Good luck, Tom
  • Sep 23, 2011, 11:00 AM
    takakoiwamoto
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    Originally Posted by speedball1 View Post
    The way you describe it you should have no problems. In my book you've done everything by the book. Good luck, Tom

    Thank you so much. It gives me a great peace of mind.
    I inserted shims to the gap (between the wall and the foundatin of interior drain) at several locations and checked after rain thinking that may help determining the french drain's performance. I found that some shims were wet. Does that mean the french drain is not working? I wasn't sure. Some shims were supposed to be wet because they were in the drain?
    I greatly appreciate your opinion. Thanks again in advance.
  • Sep 23, 2011, 03:39 PM
    speedball1
    I don't have enough information to answer. Tell me more about these :shims". Were they simply sticks shoved in the top of the drain? How far down were they? Seems to me if they were wet the drain caught the rain and drained it off, Could you be more specific about your concerns? Back to you, Tom
  • Sep 23, 2011, 04:25 PM
    takakoiwamoto
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    Originally Posted by speedball1 View Post
    I don't have enough information to answer. Tell me more about these :shims". Were they simply sticks shoved in the top of the drain? How far down were they? Seems to me if they were wet the drain caught the rain and drained it off,. Could you be moire specific about your concerns? Back to you, Tom

    There is a gap(1/2 to 3/4 inches) between the wall and foundation which runs though out the perimeter of the basement. I was told that was the interior drain. I have a problem, cracks, water stain, and bowed/tilt, with one wall. So I installed the french drain and of course reinforced the wall. The shim goes down abouIt 5 inches and low 2 to 3 inches are wet.

    I hope this is specific enough. Thank you.
  • Sep 24, 2011, 05:30 AM
    speedball1
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    There is a gap(1/2 to 3/4 inches) between the wall and foundation which runs though out the perimeter of the basement. I was told that was the interior drain.
    Interior drain! And if this space( interior drain) loads up with water what stops it from seeping through the cracks you mentioned back into your basement? Have you water proofed the basement walls so this couldn't happen? Is your french drain set up like this?(see image) Please explain how many pipes and what size they are that carry the water away from the french drain and where do they terminate . Regards, Tom
  • Sep 24, 2011, 07:51 AM
    takakoiwamoto
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    Originally Posted by speedball1 View Post
    Interior drain! And if this space( interior drain) loads up with water what stops it from seeping through the cracks you mentioned back into your basement? Have you water proofed the basement walls so this couldn't happen? Is your french drain set up like this?(see image) Please explain how many pipes and what size they are that carry the water away from the french drain and where do they terminate . Regards, Tom

    The interior drain came with the house (built in 1968) and I assume (and also was told) that it drains out(slope down) to the lake behind the house. The french drain was installed by the land scaper I hired. He used EZflow system. It also drains out to the lake. Thank you.
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  • Sep 24, 2011, 08:47 AM
    speedball1
    I was going to ask about perforated drain pipe but you already answered it. I wish I could add anything to your set up but there's nothing to add. Just wait for the first hard rain and check how it's draining out of the pipes. Let me know, Good luck, Tom
  • Sep 24, 2011, 09:10 AM
    takakoiwamoto
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    Originally Posted by speedball1 View Post
    I was going to ask about perforated drain pipe but you already answered it. I wish I could add anything to your set up but there's nothing to add. Just wait for the first hard rain and check how it's draining out of the pipes. Let me know, Good luck, Tom

    Thank you so much for your help. I have one more question. When raining, I should go out and check the french drain pipe at the daylight, and water should flow out from there, right? I know that the amount of water flowing out depends on how hard it rains, but does water from the french drain flow out like downspout? The downspout also exit to the lake, daylight. Thank you.
  • Sep 25, 2011, 05:50 PM
    speedball1
    If your internal and french are doing their job you should see a flow of water from both drains when it rains, Don't forget you should be losing a lot of water out of the perpetrated drain pipes. Good luck, Tom
  • Sep 28, 2011, 01:53 PM
    MedTombob
    A contractor proposed installing a finger drain along my poured basement wall and brick .Does anyone know what this is.have any pics or know where I can get detail of this drain
  • Sep 28, 2011, 02:29 PM
    speedball1
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    I think you may mean french drain (see image). French drains collect rain water run off and pipe it to a lower discharge point. For Example, in the above thread to his lake. Where would you drain yours to?
    If the contractor has no place to terminate the drain line I can give you a dandy way to disperse the water. It's call a "do it yourself dry well". Interested? Back to you. Tom
  • Sep 29, 2011, 05:50 AM
    takakoiwamoto
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    Originally Posted by MedTombob View Post
    A contractor proposed installing a finger drain along my poured basement wall and brick .Does anyone know what this is.have any pics or know where I can get detail of this drain

    Before you spend any money on the interior drain (drain in the basement), start from outside. I had the same situation that the contructor was suggesting the interior drain and sump pump to solve the wet/humid problem in the basement. Check gutters/down spouts, grading, and the exterior french drain. Stop the water coming in before it gets in the basement. And then, you should look into the interior drain.
  • Sep 29, 2011, 08:39 AM
    speedball1
    I agree with Tak,
    Install the french drain and wait for the first big rain. If it keeps your basement dry that an internal drain and sump pump isn't needed. Good luck, bTom

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