Hello:
Was I dead before I was alive?
excon
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Hello:
Was I dead before I was alive?
excon
No. That is all.
Hi, excon!
That would depend on what a person considers to be "dead", and perhaps even "alive".
How would you define "dead", please?
Thanks!
If death is the absence of life, and there is no life before conception, then there must be death before conception.
However, if life preexists death, then death cannot preexist life.
Umm, you're alive? <eg>
Depending on your faith, you may have been my great aunt, or by some thoughs how do you know you are alive now.
I believe that we are always alive. There is no before or after. There is just constant of being in one form or another..
If something doesn't exist, and has never existed, it can be neither dead nor alive. You did not exist prior to your being conceived by your parents. Your mother had one piece of what would eventually become you, and your father another piece, but separately they were not "you." Therefore, you were neither dead nor alive prior to that moment in time. So the period of your being alive was not preceded by being dead, but rather was preceded by nothing.
At least that's my take on it.
Dead means the absence of life,you have to be alive before you die,physically anyway,so physically you did not exist before you were conceived.
The thing is I am talking spiritually. We are always alive I believe. Even before being conceived.
I believe in soul and spirit too,but I could not pinpoint the beginning of soul or spirit,too many theories and not enough head space.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesushelper1976
Hello again,
Am I my body?
excon
I believe the person that is excon, the essence of excon, the qualities that tell me it is excon and not hheath or Curleyben or J_9, are always alive. Many religions call that the "soul" or "spirit" of a person. Your parents created the physical (the twinkly blue eyes and the right-handedness and the curly hair, etc.) excon, but how that got matched up with the spirit part to make the complete excon package, I have no idea. I also believe even though the physical part will die, the spirit part continues to exist.
Hello again, WG:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Was my spirit dead before it existed?
excon
No,Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
I said, "I believe the person that is excon, the essence of excon, the qualities that tell me it is excon and not hheath or Curleyben or J_9, are always alive."Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
I believe your spirit has always existed. Excon was romping around in another dimension before he landed on Earth and AMHD.
Auntie,
I believe the same thing.
Perhaps we might rephrase this question. "Did I exist before I existed?".
The Soul is eternal, and therefore never dies, the body is temporary so does.
The spark, essence, spiritual aspect of us is timeless, spaceless and deathless.
I would like to add, the thought that. We have always existed... There was no beginning and no end. God has always been and we have always been part of God.
If that is one's belief. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesushelper76
Hello again,
I get that you folks believe that I've always been alive, and I'm always going to be... That's a nice idea... But, it flies in the face of, what I'll call, reality...
I say that, because if I've always been alive, it didn't feel like it. As a matter of fact, I'll bet it felt exactly like being dead. You also say that I'm going to be alive after I'm dead, but I don't think it's going to FEEL like I'm alive, so I'm not buying it.
I suppose faith would eventually come into the conversation...
excon
I agree with you ex. Most people's memories start at around 3 years old and there's no proof that anything happens after death. Got to enjoy these 90 years we have here on this planet of ours. Hopefully we touched some lives or did some deeds that will keep the memory of us alive after our death.
Are you alive when you are asleep and not aware that you are alive?Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
So if that is the analogy then whether we are alive forever or not is pointless if there is no knowledge of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
What I'm sayin' is one can be alive and not aware. Sleeping isn't pointless.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
I agree, sleep is not pointless. But saying that is one is always alive forever and it's just like sleeping (for example) kind of makes the whole 'alive forever' issue pointless since, like sleep, we aren't aware of it. Basically whether we are alive forever or not is indeed pointless if there is no consciousness of it. Does that make sense? :)
No. What happens when you are asleep?Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Nothing?
Oh my!Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Enlighten me!
There's whole bunch of stuff going on during sleep --Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Wakefulness, Alertness, Sleep, and Dreams
Or similarly, but more accessible --
Our bodies at rest: What happens when we sleep - by E.L. Miller - Helium
And best of all --
What Does Your Body Do While You're Asleep? | Big Site of Amazing Facts ©
I don't deny that but the person isn't aware of any of it. You could be sleeping for one hour or 14 hours, it's the same thing to the body owner - no consciousness. Once some one dies I'm quite certain that your cells don't repair themselves or that you move around 12 times a night.
Of course to say anything about what happens after death is pure conjecture since there are no facts to back it up. One could be asleep forever or one simply dies. If the 'sleep forever' gives you more comfort than so be it.
So where is your mind in all this?Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Or one could "wake up" again after death.
Ah, so that's what you were driving at. I guess it could be re-awakened but that just sounds like wishful thinking to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Being senseless after death sounds like wishful thinking to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Ok. :) <nice try>
Nice try for what? You don't know what will happen after death, or what was going on before birth. Scientists haven't begun to uncap the secrets of the mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
A sperm and an egg meet and merge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
... or what was going on before conception.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
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