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T. S. Eliot:
"What we call the beginning is often the end. And to make an end is to make a beginning. The end is where we start from."

Isn't this true?

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Go on then when I end what would be the start

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Originally Posted by albear

go on then when i end what would be the start

By end do you mean death or something else?

Death is not the end, in my own personal belief it is just the beginning. I guess, the above statements in your post everybody could take something different from it. (;

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Originally Posted by firmbeliever

By end do you mean death or something else?

I mean that whatever I am will cease to be

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Originally Posted by albear

i mean that whatever i am will cease to be

That would be the beginning of a new understanding, what this life was all about.On our deaths do we really understand what this life had been about.

And we see the beginning of what is beyond death.

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Originally Posted by firmbeliever

On our deaths do we really understand what this life had been about.

I don't think we will, I think that when I die I will just disappear, only the physical remnants of what was me will remain, and that won't be for that long.

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Originally Posted by albear

i dont think we will, i think that when i die i will just dissapear, only the physical remnants of what was me will remain, and that wont be for that long.

You don't have to take the quote only with death.
Think of something else /another incident in life this quote seems to fit for you.

OK then, my toes I see as the end of my body, and my head as the start,according to your quote up above, I start from my toes and that makes my head the end but then your quote turns it back around to my first statement and so on it's a never ending circle, so therefore the quote is telling me that I don't start and I don't end

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Originally Posted by albear

ok then, my toes i see as the end of my body, and my head as the start,according to your quote up above, i start from my toes and that makes my head the end but then your quote turns it back around to my first statement and so on its a never ending circle, so therefore the quote is telling me that i dont start and i dont end

That is an interesting way to look at it...

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Originally Posted by firmbeliever

That is an interesting way to look at it...

It is isn't it, I actually improvised that one but its got me thinking

Do share...

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Originally Posted by firmbeliever

Do share...

OK here goes, so if I don't start and I don't end then technically I don't exist, which is true to some people, (the ones who haven't seen me or know about anythng to do with me, I mean if the person behind the alias was to stop visiting this site but someone else was to carry on the account you would not know, and hence you would not know that I existed, but for the people that do know I exist according to the quote (and my logic) don't exist which in turn invalidates my existence... wow, does that make any sense.

It does make sense in some ways... yes.

Are you planning to do a disappearing act?
;)Just kidding.

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Originally Posted by firmbeliever

It does make sense in some ways...yes.

Are you planning to do a disappearing act?
;)Just kidding.

Good, I thought I might be going a little strange

... not quite yet, I was just using it as an example

Those are such wise words. All beginnings are the end of something else, and all that ends is a chance for a new beginning.

People here use to get mad at me for my signature that said that there are no happy endings. That is my belief. No endings are happy

Letting that thought go for now, just thinking of the happy beginnings full of expectations of new experiences... like spring is a happy new beginning for all life rising from the earth after the death of nature under a long gold snow filled winter.

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Originally Posted by Choux

Those are such wise words. All beginnings are the end of something else, and all that ends is a chance for a new beginning.

People here use to get mad at me for my signature that said that there are no happy endings. That is my belief. No endings are happy

Letting that thought go for now, just thinking of the happy beginnings full of expectations of new experiences.......like spring is a happy new beginning for all life rising from the earth after the death of nature under a long gold snow filled winter.

If some people have a problem with something like that its theirproblem not yours I hope you didn't take it down for their sakes

The quote is about personal evolution.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

the quote is about personal evolution.

Personal evolution sounds like a nice way of putting it.

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Originally Posted by firmbeliever

T. S. Eliot:
"What we call the beginning is often the end. And to make an end is to make a beginning. The end is where we start from."

Isnt this true?

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At the end of myself is where I find the beginning of my Savior. At the end of my efforts is where my God takes over.

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Originally Posted by savedsinner7

At the end of my efforts is where my God takes over.

I agree,
Our work will only be fulfilled by the mercy and grace of the Almighty.

What about if you don't have faith

Before I believed and trusted Jesus, my efforts at life were destructive to myself and to others. I hurt, I hurt others. I used drugs, people and destroyed myself. When I came to the end of my efforts, I cried out to God to save me or kill me. He saved me.

I don't know any other way.

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Originally Posted by albear

what about if you dont have faith

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Originally Posted by albear

what about if you dont have faith

Then you will know at the time your life ends,if it is a new beginning or just the end.

But your question's answers will be a whole new thread as I am sure there are as many who believe in God as there are those who do not.:)

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Originally Posted by firmbeliever

Then you will know at the time your life ends,if it is a new beginning or just the end.

But your question's answers will be a whole new thread as I am sure there are as many who believe in God as there are those who do not.:)

Agreed, ill wait then

You can start your own thread with that question, I am sure many will be around to give their views.:)

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Originally Posted by firmbeliever

You can start your own thread with that question, I am sure many will be around to give their views.:)

Nah I'm not in to the religion vs all argument type scenario