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  • Aug 21, 2007, 03:43 PM
    Dark_crow
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by retsoksirhc
    So...what is the other? Perhaps it is a little bit more legitamate.

    O.K. one down and another to go…longitude & latitude
  • Aug 21, 2007, 03:44 PM
    CaptainRich
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dark_crow
    ...

    Eternity and never
  • Aug 21, 2007, 03:45 PM
    Dark_crow
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Choux
    Mr. Crow, I just checked again; this is the Philosophy Board!

    :):):)

    So it is, what do you know, and I thought it was the graveyard. :D
  • Aug 21, 2007, 03:47 PM
    Dark_crow
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CaptainRich
    Who changes from dead?

    The change is to dead, but not back again; therefor non-existence.
  • Aug 21, 2007, 03:48 PM
    Dark_crow
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CaptainRich
    Eternity and never

    Never is eternity :)
  • Aug 21, 2007, 03:51 PM
    Dark_crow
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma
    Our sun indeed has a limited life span:
    What is the life expectancy of the sun?

    Stand still, I can't read your posts:D
  • Aug 21, 2007, 03:53 PM
    retsoksirhc
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dark_crow
    Interesting thoughts you have. However, Nothing and Forever are concepts with-out objects, that is, they are not material objects.
    (Snip)
    However by my meaning of absolutes your answers are not correct.

    I only quote this because I want to be an arse :)

    I had to think about this for a minute, but I think you can dismiss latitude and longitude, also. If you're referring to them as the physical locations on continents, and geographic locations, then you shuold remember that the earth's crust is made of plates. These plates move, and the latitude and longitude coordinates of a physical location can change slightly. Supposedly, the earth started with one continent, Pangea, I believe was the name they gave it. The locations of almost everything has certainly changed since then.\

    If you mean the lines we draw on a globe, then refer to what you told me earlier. They aren't real objects, just concepts, so by your meaning of absolutes, that can't e right either...

    Sorry :P
  • Aug 21, 2007, 04:03 PM
    Dark_crow
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by retsoksirhc
    I only quote this because I want to be an arse :)

    I had to think about this for a minute, but I think you can dismiss lattitude and longitude, also. If you're referring to them as the physical locations on continents, and geographic locations, then you shuold remember that the earth's crust is made of plates. These plates move, and the lattitude and longitude coordinates of a physical location can change slightly. Supposedly, the earth started out with one continent, Pangea, I believe was the name they gave it. The locations of almost everything has certainly changed since then.\

    If you mean the lines we draw on a globe, then refer to what you told me earlier. They aren't real objects, just concepts, so by your meaning of absolutes, that can't e right either...

    Sorry :P

    Well arse,:) are there no absolutes: everything is relative?
  • Aug 21, 2007, 04:03 PM
    CaptainRich
    Your vision of philosophy and the introduction of your concepts of science have, over the past, been shown to mutually exclusive.
  • Aug 21, 2007, 04:06 PM
    Dark_crow
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CaptainRich
    Your vision of philosophy and the introduction of your concepts of science have, over the past, been shown to mutually exclusive.

    And in English that means… :)
  • Aug 21, 2007, 04:08 PM
    retsoksirhc
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dark_crow
    And in English that means… :)

    Haha, ouch. This thread is COLD. But it's all in good fun, right? RIGHT?

    Also, I want to revise an earlier post. I'm changing my "The Past" to "History." The past may not exist today, but history does, as it refers to knowledge about the past. It's still not physical, but it meets the same criteria as nothing and forever now, I believe.
  • Aug 21, 2007, 04:12 PM
    Dark_crow
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by retsoksirhc
    Haha, ouch. This thread is COLD. But it's all in good fun, right? RIGHT?

    Also, I want to revise an earlier post. I'm changing my "The Past" to "History." The past may not exist today, but history does, as it refers to knowledge about the past. It's still not physical, but it meets the same criteria as nothing and forever now, I believe.

    Good move, and that proves history can be re-written, right. :D
  • Aug 21, 2007, 04:15 PM
    retsoksirhc
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dark_crow
    Good move, and that proves history can be re-written, right. :D

    Damn... walked right into that one. Unless you consider it an annotation instead of a rewrite :)

    Quote Home Simpson: "Facts are meaningless. You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!"
  • Aug 21, 2007, 04:16 PM
    Dark_crow
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by retsoksirhc
    Haha, ouch. This thread is COLD. But it's all in good fun, right? RIGHT?

    Also, I want to revise an earlier post. I'm changing my "The Past" to "History." The past may not exist today, but history does, as it refers to knowledge about the past. It's still not physical, but it meets the same criteria as nothing and forever now, I believe.

    Knowledge, now that is an interesting word, given the relativity of the world.
  • Aug 21, 2007, 04:20 PM
    Dark_crow
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by retsoksirhc
    Damn...walked right into that one. Unless you consider it an annotation instead of a rewrite :)

    Quote Home Simpson: "Facts are meaningless. You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!"

    Indeed, when we interpret from particulars to generalities we often get it wrong.
  • Aug 21, 2007, 04:32 PM
    CaptainRich
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dark_crow
    And in English that means… :)

    In reality your using your own strawman riddle to pump up your own post.
  • Aug 21, 2007, 04:35 PM
    Dark_crow
    So that's what you think. And you reached that conclusion by Deduction or Induction
  • Aug 21, 2007, 04:45 PM
    retsoksirhc
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dark_crow
    Well arse,:) are there no absolutes: everything is relative?

    According to this, it looks like he used inductive reasoning. Since nothing is absolute, you can't deduct anything from it. Right? Oh wait, that was deductive..
    Since nothing is absolute (for the most part), the majority of the entirety of existence (or most of it), nothing (or almost nothing) can be deducted from it (or part of it).

    Right?

    Um... what?
  • Aug 21, 2007, 04:57 PM
    Dark_crow
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by retsoksirhc
    According to this, it looks like he used inductive reasoning. Since nothing is absolute, you can't deduct anything from it. Right? Oh wait, that was deductive..
    Since nothing is absolute (for the most part), the majority of the entirety of existance (or most of it), nothing (or almost nothing) can be deducted from it (or part of it).

    Right?

    Um...what?

    From nothing is absolute we might deduce that all is theory; which of course religion, Evolution and Politics is.

    Ya think? Whooops, forgot science
  • Aug 21, 2007, 05:15 PM
    worthbeads
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dark_crow
    What are two absolutes that exist in eternity and never change?...

    The laws of time and space. Our interpretation of time and space may change, but the laws themselves will not.

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