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  • Sep 22, 2008, 11:29 AM
    talaniman

    A simple check up may help, but doing things that you enjoy, and makes you happy does wonders.

    Coping with rejection is something we all have to learn. Self confidence is the key to that.

    You need more time, and a busier plan, that gets you busy building yourself, and teaching you to love yourself, more than you love her.
  • Sep 25, 2008, 01:33 AM
    onlineguy
    For you women: Value!
    For you to like a man who is interested in you, then you need to see a value in him or you will reject him. (Same for men)

    If you have an ex partner, you have left him or moved on because you no longer see a value in him. (Same for men).

    So in both circumstances - What are the things that lose value and the things that gain value ?

    What makes you want him as opposed to not wanting him?

    Positive Value:

    Negative Value:
  • Sep 25, 2008, 02:31 AM
    saprophilous

    Respect

    The biggest thing, I believe.
  • Sep 25, 2008, 06:28 AM
    talaniman

    I thinks its more about feelings, and seeing if you both connect on the working together on many levels, that nurtures those feeling so they can grow.
  • Sep 25, 2008, 06:30 AM
    Romefalls19

    Respect, honesty, connection
  • Sep 25, 2008, 09:58 AM
    Jiser

    Ditto to tali! I thinks its more about feelings, and seeing if you both connect on the working together on many levels, that nurtures those feeling so they can grow.
  • Sep 25, 2008, 10:45 AM
    JBeaucaire

    Positive - admiration
    Negative - apathy
  • Oct 8, 2008, 04:37 AM
    onlineguy
    I should be of value, but I am not. Puzzled
    Puzzling Question ! I see women on a daily basis who are of attraction value to me based on their looks.

    Ie: I find them physically desirable and therefore have an emotional / connection interest to go and talk to them. If I then find they have a good personality I am drawn to them even more possibly looking for a connection.

    However the only women I receive similar responses from are unattractive women !

    Good Looking Attractive women do not give me those value responses.
    - Now I don't think of myself as unattractive - Just Average ! Good Humour fun to be around.. So I don't know why I am getting this response ?

    Is it good looking women will only show interest in good looking guys ? Or am I missing something..
  • Oct 8, 2008, 04:50 AM
    talaniman

    Your field is narrow, and needs to be broader in its scope. Sometimes being to superficial is not good, and also your approach could be bad.

    What is unattractive... to you?
  • Nov 5, 2008, 04:51 AM
    onlineguy
    How do I attract the attention / desire of beautiful women
    How do I attract the attention / desire of beautiful women ?
  • Nov 5, 2008, 07:48 AM
    450donn

    Walk up to then and say HI! If you are confident, smart and outgoing women will flock to you. If you are quiet, shy and cannot carry on a basic conversation without saying "um, ah, youknow" then people will see you for what you are.
  • Nov 5, 2008, 05:17 PM
    jrsg
    #1. confidence
  • Nov 5, 2008, 08:33 PM
    j36

    Confidence does help A LOT, but that's only the start and it may not always work. Honestly, if you want some gorgeus lady on your arm, you've got to at least somewhat look like you deserve it. Stay clean cut, decent style, that helps. Also, make her LAUGH! I think this kind of goes with confidence but a sense of humor will almost always attract a girls attention, from there it usually gets easier to talk to her and share things in common, get to know each other and stuff... from there, wing it, if it works out, great, if not, try again on someone else.
    Hope that helped ;]
  • Nov 5, 2008, 08:40 PM
    Alty

    Confidence, intelligence, sincerity, cleansliness, and honesty.

    But, if you are being superficial, only looking at the outward appearance the "beautiful women" and not paying attention to who they are on the inside, then you will need;

    Vanity, money, a nice car, a nice house, a gorgeous body, a gorgeous face, no scrupules and no sincerity.

    Just be yourself. :)
  • Nov 5, 2008, 08:41 PM
    Fr_Chuck

    Become rich,
  • Nov 11, 2008, 08:03 PM
    j36
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck View Post
    become rich,

    Haha, that works too. :)
  • Nov 11, 2008, 08:24 PM
    kraussnumber2

    Just be a friend... while it is flattering to have guys drooling over you it can be a bit annoying. And if she thinks that all you want is sex she will almost always push away from you. Girls typically do not want a guy interested in only sex. Usually they want a guy who is interested in her, her best interest, and things like that. You need to actually listen to what she has to say and notice the little things in life. Don't try to be genuinely interested... be genuinely interested... she will be able to tell the difference. Although she will appreciate the effort either way. Good luck! Oh and ps... don't try to "wow" her or overdo it with material things. Often simplicity and quality matter more the quantity and granduar.
  • Nov 11, 2008, 10:22 PM
    talaniman

    Quote:

    How do I attract the attention / desire of beautiful women


    God didn't make no ugly women, so just pick one you like.
  • Mar 8, 2009, 01:12 PM
    onlineguy
    How to recognise if a woman is into you
    If a woman is interested or attracted to you what signs will she give above being friendly ?
  • Mar 8, 2009, 04:18 PM
    cax11

    Wel the woman would normally show u some physical sign of attraction, such as touching u in a way for u to realise that this is more than a friend or want to be
  • Mar 9, 2009, 08:19 AM
    streve

    Some physical body language such as licking her lips and fiddling with her hair is usually a sign she is into you.
  • Mar 9, 2009, 01:23 PM
    charleneD

    If I were that woman, you'd probably think I am not interested even though I really am.

    But maybe can you tell by the way she looks/smiles at you comparing to the way she looks at other guys?
  • Mar 9, 2009, 01:34 PM
    liz28
    All women are different. Some are extremely shy about letting you know they like you. Some have no issues about being straightforward and letting you know what they want. This can get confusing. The assertive ones will let you know that they like you by asking you out, or simply telling you. The not-so-assertive ones will throw subtle hints, such as bumping into you constantly, or making sure she is consistently in your sight. She may also wear nice clothes and do her makeup when she knows you will be around.

    She may touch you in a playful or friendly manner. Maybe she softly taps you on the arm in a seemingly playful fashion, or touches your hair (or head) while talking to you. These moves may be a sign that she is interested.

    Also she makes it a point to introduce you to her friends. A lot of girls want to get the opinion of her girlfriends. They want you to know who her friends are, and visa versa.

    What signs are she giving you?
  • Mar 9, 2009, 02:03 PM
    nikosmom

    Often when someone is interested they will open up a little more; she may let on that she's not involved currently or start to inquire about your status. There's no 100% sure way of knowing aside from asking her if she'd like to go out. Everyone shows interest in different way so you'll just have to go out on a limb.
  • Mar 9, 2009, 02:15 PM
    kp2171
    Depends on the woman.

    Some are more aggressive and willing to touch your hand or shoulder, etc...

    Some might make give verbal openings to see if you chase.

    There's no right answer here.

    I've always been most attracted to women who were more confident and perhaps aggressive... if I liked a girl and then she showed clear interest with flirting or physical touch it usually escalated my interest up several notches. Was more than willing to take a risk, but at least one love I dated, for over two years, I wasn't necessarily going to chase... she gave me some hints, both verbal and physical, and it piquéd my interest.

    So... you CANNOT state anything across the board. It depends on the girl. Not all will give physical cues.

    So... as asked... what's the deal? Explain.
  • Jun 17, 2009, 01:21 PM
    onlineguy
    Why Lie
    When you first break up they want to keep in touch all the time, saying that they always want to be a part of your life and will always be a friend.

    But as soon as they meet another, then that's it they never want to keep in touch, don't want to have anything to do with you, your like something they stepped in.


    Why Lie ?
  • Jun 17, 2009, 01:32 PM
    I wish

    It's not really a lie. When you first break up, it's really difficult to completely cut off all contact because you are so dependent on each other. It's to make the break up less painful. Don't take what the other person says so literally.

    When you meet someone new, you should be committed to the new person.

    She already moved on with her life. It's time for you to move on with your life. If you moved on, then it wouldn't bother you so much that she doesn't contact you. Don't dwell on the past anymore move forward.
  • Jun 17, 2009, 03:49 PM
    makapuu

    It might sound like a lie, but I'm sure it's not intentional. If a relationship ended on friendly terms, then keeping in touch is normal. When either person has moved on, keeping in touch with an "ex" might be uncomfortable for the "new" person.
  • Jun 17, 2009, 05:41 PM
    Triysle
    I also want to throw in that while it may not be a lie, it is an indication of the other person's lack of emotional maturity, as well as respect for your feelings.

    Anyone who has been through a tough break up knows how hard it is to cut ties. All too often, though, we find that same person leading someone on later in life. This is one of the many positive aspects of No Contact; the best way to show the other person that you care is by giving him or her space and a chance to truly heal. It also shows that you are capable of healing on your own, as well.

    Just a different perspective. It's usually not an intentional lie, but I do feel that it is a form of passive manipulation.

    ~ Tee
  • Jun 17, 2009, 08:45 PM
    JBeaucaire

    At any given moment, we will choose the path of least discomfort. Breaking up is uncomfortable, so it's common to couch the breakup in soft cushy talk. The soft words are meant to make THIS MOMENT more bearable. They have no real bearing on what will or won't happen in the future. No weight should be put on any of it... except the "it's over" part.

    It's not a lie. That's a horrible way to interpret the situation. Even if every word being spoken is an outright falsehood, being aware of what's really going on here is what loving people do.

    When you're a parent and you catch your child in his first lie, I PROMISE that if you make a big deal of the lie told instead of talking about the event surrounding it, you will be missing an opportunity to really connect with your child.

    So, the question isn't "why lie?" The question is, "Why beat the issue? It's over."
  • Jun 17, 2009, 10:31 PM
    friend4u178

    As well as what the others have said it's a way of letting you down lightly without trying to hurt your feelings too much.

    Therefore making it easier for you to slowly come to terms that its over and making their guilt less.
  • Jun 18, 2009, 03:56 PM
    talaniman

    Its not a lie, but when someone gets a new love interest, who has time for friends, especially exes? Would you? What would your new love say about talking to your ex?

    You let it go, as most friends would do, and let your friend have fun. If your truly a friend, and not just hanging around hoping for more.

    Who's lying then, with those kind of secret motives?

    Do you have a secret motive?
  • Jun 18, 2009, 04:31 PM
    JBeaucaire
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Do you have a secret motive?

    I have a lovely scented votive. Is that close enough?


    <rim shot>
  • Jul 13, 2009, 02:21 AM
    onlineguy
    Looks Rule
    Good looks rule the dating game.

    But what do you do if your unattractive but attracted to good looking women.

    Or Unattractive women attractted to good looking guys.

    If your unattractive then good looking others will reject your advances... so do you stay alone or make do with someone where there is no physical attraction?
  • Jul 13, 2009, 03:40 AM
    redhed35

    There are two sides to this argument,some would argue that the person has to be 'good looking ' before they would consider dating someone,the second might say there has to be physical attraction.

    Good looking does not always equal physical attraction.

    Take dating sites,your talking to someone who has yet up post a picture of themselves,your enjoying the banter,the conversation is intelligent,light.. you feel a connection,if when you do meet that person and they do not meet your beauty bar,do you disregard any relationship,or even getting to know them better... sadly some do.

    Its just the way we are,we are not considered 'p c' if we say I would not date an ugly man/woman. But its all relative..

    What I consider beautiful,handsome, others may mock and say your crazy...

    Good looks are not important to me,but physical attraction is.

    I'm attracted to a smart man,intelligence turns me on,that in turn triggers my physical attraction,if the most beautiful man on earth asked me out and he was dumb as s**t,I don't think id last the evening.
  • Jul 13, 2009, 05:39 AM
    talaniman

    You keep going until you find someone that attracts you, and are attracted by you. Why settle?

    What you that desperate that you'll take anything that gives you the green light??
  • Jul 13, 2009, 05:46 AM
    I wish

    I don't think it makes a different between online dating and real life dating.

    If the girl/guy is looking for someone with good looks, they will look for it online or in real life.

    So don't let the looks thing get to you. If you have a conversation with someone and feel the connection, then things can fall into place.
  • Jul 13, 2009, 06:02 AM
    Ren6
    The things that initially attract me to another are I.Q. and sense of humor. When we begin to mesh relationship-wise, that person mysteriously becomes drop-dead gorgeous. I can't explain how that works.

    I've heard your words before, usually coming from a guy who feels he's unattractive, but wondering why/complaining about the fact that the beautiful model types don't tend to go for them. They complain about the shallowness of these gals, but never consider why they themselves wouldn't dream of getting to know a less attractive girl who might be a really fantastic partner.

    I would urge you to consider what might be attractive to you in a partner, besides general appearance. Sense of humor, loyalty, playfulness, good work ethic, etc. Think about the qualities you would like your partner to have and get out there and look.

    I guess what I'm trying to say is that looks don't matter much in the long run, and they certainly don't last forever.

    Good luck...
  • Jul 13, 2009, 06:04 AM
    kctiger
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by onlineguy View Post
    Good looks rule the dating game.

    Good looks may get your noticed, but confidence gets you in the door. Simple process here. Being a guy, almost ANY girl will be attracted to a guy who is confident in himself. If you are a guy, follow my advice to getting yourself a "date" with a female you are attracted to:

    Walk up to them, BS with them and then ask for their number. Regardless of their answer, make sure you act like it didn't bother you at all. Their answer and their reaction should have ZERO effect on you one way or another. The key is to ensure that they know you can live with or without them!

    Confidence 101... for more tips, let me know, but I PROMISE you confidence is the key to dating, not being good looking. Girls want a guy who is confident of himself (not cocky) and isn't tripping over his own tongue over them.
  • Jul 13, 2009, 06:20 AM
    jmw0713

    ^^KC had to spread the Rep but I couldn't have said it better myself.

    Confidence is key. Just be careful not to cross the line and go from being confident to a douchebag... that will not help.

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