Don't be so shallow! If your out looking for one type of woman (the hot ones) then you won't get anywhere, nobody likes shallow and your clearly not getting anywhere with the "hot ones"... so maybe you should "lower your standards" like you said in your last thread! Jeeze guy, no body is going to want someone that seems to think he deserving of only the pretty ones! Everyone's attractive in their own right!

Perhaps if your attitude was a little better towards females in general you may be able to attract them.
If you are not good looking yourself and you look down on women yo deem not "hot" why would you think any woman would want you?
What is a "hot woman in your opinion?

Staple a hundred dollar bill to your forehead, and one on each ear, and drive a really expensive hot car, and a 12,000 dollar suit.

You will attract them like hot cakes.

How about not being so shallow.

Beauty fades.

If you dont have the good looks to catch their eye?

Why would any of them then want to go out with YOU?

It's like the joke:

Man#1 -- I finally found the perfect woman.

Man #2 -- Marry her!

Man #1 -- I asked her, but she was looking for the perfect man.

Attractive people have more opportunities than less attractive people.

Are you unattractive? This seems to be all you post about.
There are plenty of successful people who are to some people unattractive.
Opportunities are relative. There are people out there who find opportunity a plenty and in the most obscure circumstances and some who would not recognize one if it were under their nose.

You speak of being single and unattractive and then you switch gears to having opportunities. Opportunities with work or with choosing a date?

What's good about you? What do you like about yourself?

More like, confident people have more opportunities than less confident people.

This isn't a question. Opportunities are created by hard work and persistence, not appearance. And attraction varies from person to person.

Maybe you don't have a clue as to the correct way to go about things. Having read your other posts there is no maybe, it's a fact you are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off base, with your assumptions, and presumptions, and you lack the skills to interpret facts to have better outcomes. Stop ignoring good advice, and make some changes to help you learn the right way of going about things.

I read somewhere that it is possible to win over any woman with gentle persistence and perseverance!

So if this is true then it should be possible to win over any woman you have ever met if you touch the right button!

Or is it a case of only if she physically fancies you.

The way to do it is to keep getting to know her better by talking to her more. Maybe at some point she will realize that there's more to you than she initially thought, then she might give you more consideration.

However, if she feels that she already knows you well enough to decide that you're better off being friends, then patience and perseverance won't really make a difference.

Nope, your info is incorrect. You can't win over any woman with persistence and perseverance. Just like all human beings, women aren't attracted to everyone they meet and don't want to date every guy they meet, no matter how much he persists.

I know plenty of men that I wouldn't date even if they offered to buy me the world. There's no button they could push that would change my mind, and if they kept trying to push they'd likely find themselves walking funny from a swift kick in the arse.

Women are funny. Treat them like the intelligent human beings that they are, and you'll find that they'll treat you the same way. Just like men, if we're not interested, we're not interested.

Yes, it is. I say this as I am a women who was won over by pesistance! But I do have to add that that woman does have to be in the right frame of mind, and that if you asking any woman maybe mayne not! Or a women that has previously rejected yes with space if you know her well!

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yes, it is. i say this as i am a women who was won over by pesistance!! But I do have to add that that woman does have to be in the right frame of mind, and that if you asking any woman maybe mayne not!! Or a women that has previously rejected yes with space if you know her well!!

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So you're saying that any man can win you over if he's persistent and you're in the right mood? Any man?

The fact is, the OP is asking if all women can be won over with persistence, and as I'm a woman that cannot be won over by any man just because he's persistent, that would mean that not all women can be.

You are also one woman, and you have said that you could be won over. So the logical conclusion is that some women can, and some women can't, but not all.

Women who are "won over" by wining and dining (and gifts) are called prostitutes.

No, "gentle persistence" isn't the only thing a man needs to exhibit. (Too often the "gentle" part turns into his being a stalker.)

The physical attraction is only one part of it.

His honest and sense of humor and intelligence and ability to sing doo wop are other parts.

You need to read better books, because the one you read this in will make you feel like a complete fool if you try this on a few woman, or in jail.

You do better using the caveman technique, hit 'em over the head and drag 'em to your cave.

Or the pet technique, catch 'em in a net, and chain 'em to the porch.

Or kiss every frog in the pond until one turns into a princess.

Anything is better than being a stalker, or a pest!

Or do what we real men do, talk to them all, and find one that likes you, as much as you like her.

It seems good looking women do not show an interest, but rather wait for multiple guys to show them the interest and pick the best one.

That's hardly showing that a guy has value to her ! It should be mutual interest shown.

Hmmm... do you have a question?

That's quite a general and broad statement you wrote there. While I sure some women( an guys) act that way I can't say in my experience that all women( or guys ) act this way. It does make perfect sense though, when you re openly dating to date a number of people... after all, it is a good way to find out who will work for us. Plus, many girls like to be pursued, courted ( call it old fashioned, call them shy, whatever)and expect the guy to make the initial moves.

I am attracted to beautiful women, but just as in the movie, I get rejection unless I lower my standards.

Without sounding vain, I can't do that. I can't fall in love with someone I am not physically attracted to... But since women go for looks as much as men, then how can I expect them to fall in love with me.

Getting older now, leaving it to late for a family... but can't see a way out of this vicious circle!!

I like your honesty! I wouldn't normally advise online dating, but since you're a grown man I'm sure you know the dangers of using online dating, have you ever tried it? But without actually seeing the persons picture? Just find a profile without a photo and read about them, if you like what you read, try getting to know them only through emails first, then after sometime, maybe ask to meet or see a photo. They might not be picture perfect but you will have gotten to know them from personality first. It might help.