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  • Oct 26, 2008, 04:29 PM
    Isabel_27
    My daughter dating an 18 year old
    My sixteen year old daughter is dating an eighteen year old man. She told me they were having protected sex! Is that OK? Is that even legal? He's an adult and she is just a miner! I mean I like this boy, he would never do anything to hurt my daughter so I don't want to get him in trouble so I want to make sure that they are not doing anything to break the law.
  • Oct 26, 2008, 04:36 PM
    Scared gota dui

    It depends on what state you live in really, and if you do live somewhere that what the guy is committing is statutory rape the only person that can really do anything about it is your daughter. So if they are in love then let them continue to be so, and take it day by day. Advise your daughter to talk to you if she is considering breaking up with the guy, because that is when the majority of "rape" charges are pressed.

    God Bless
  • Oct 26, 2008, 04:42 PM
    Isabel_27

    We live in the south. She says that she loves him and want to be with him forever. I don't tell her she doesn't know love, cause my husband and I met in high school and got married.
  • Oct 26, 2008, 04:54 PM
    john555
    Hi first off that's not really OK where she is a minor and he is a adult also that isn't even legal it actually is AGAINST the LAW hope that answers your question:)
  • Oct 26, 2008, 05:04 PM
    Isabel_27

    So the 4 year age limit doesn't apply when the other is 18?
  • Oct 26, 2008, 05:05 PM
    liz28

    What state do you in?
  • Oct 26, 2008, 05:07 PM
    Isabel_27
    Tennessee
  • Oct 26, 2008, 05:09 PM
    Fr_Chuck

    Well if your daughter is 16 and the boy is 18 there is a 2 year difference not a 4 year.. Next you have not told us where you are at, Each State has different laws, for example in GA age of consent is 16, so sex is legal at this point.

    Now of course you ground her, stop her from dating, have to ask who the parent is?

    You can also inform him ( as a adult) not to take your daughter anywhere, so depending on how your DA works, if he takes her out, you have some legal issues of custody interference, adult taking a minor.

    There are also some strange laws, if they cross state line to have sex, there ( at least was ) laws on taking a minor acros state line for sex.

    But to be honest 2 years is not much of a difference, a lot of seniors in high school are 18.
  • Oct 26, 2008, 05:10 PM
    Jay Dolce
    Omg!


    Well it all depends on were you live


    Here in California the legal age for sex is 18



    A two year difference is fine when dating
    But when it come to having sex
    16 is just too young!
    Its great to know that your doughter told you she's having sex
    But that's how they end up pregnant!
  • Oct 26, 2008, 05:11 PM
    J_9
    In the State of Tennessee the legal age of consent is 18. If your daughter is not 18 and the boy is, this can be considered statutory rape. It doesn't matter whether the parents consent, if found out, it all depends on the prosecutor.
  • Oct 26, 2008, 05:16 PM
    Isabel_27

    They don't go anywhere really. He either comes over here or she goes over there. They love to spend time with each other. Those two are really in love and I think, if she asked, he wuld wait for her. I think in the state of TN, and 18 year old can date a 16 year old as long as sex is not involved. They are only really a year and a half apart.
  • Oct 26, 2008, 05:19 PM
    liz28

    They can date each other but they can't engaged in any sexual activity. If they do he can get in trouble.
  • Oct 26, 2008, 05:21 PM
    Isabel_27

    Ok I will have a talk with the two of them and tell them how much trouble they can get in if the keeo having sex. Thank you all so much for your help
  • Oct 26, 2008, 05:23 PM
    liz28
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Isabel_27 View Post
    My sixteen year old daughter is dating an eighteen year old man. She told me they were having protected sex! Is that ok? Is that even legal? He's an adult and she is just a miner! I mean I like this boy, he would never do anything to hurt my daughter so I dont want to get him in trouble so I want to make sure that they are not doing anything to break the law.

    Regardless of where they are hanging out they're still having sex. They're even doing it in your house or his.

    How exactly do you feel about this because it seems like your okay with it but then it seems like you don't or your really unsure.
  • Oct 26, 2008, 05:24 PM
    J_9
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Isabel_27 View Post
    Ok I will have a talk with the two of them and tell them how much trouble they can get in if the keeo having sex. Thank you all so much for your help

    I am in Tennessee myself, just north of Memphis. Had this happen to a local couple a year or so ago. The DA was going to prosecute, but they got married before the warrants went out.
  • Oct 26, 2008, 05:26 PM
    Isabel_27

    I guess I am still in shock. I didn't think that my baby was having sex. I am OK with it cause she said that it was protected. They are both really good kids. I believe that he will stop when I tell him what could happen. He just turned 18 today so I wanted to see if it was OK
  • Oct 26, 2008, 05:29 PM
    J_9
    The guy I know could have had the label of sex offender on him for the rest of his life. He was 18 and she was 17 and got pregnant. Condoms aren't 100% effective you know. NO birth control is 100% effective.
  • Oct 26, 2008, 05:33 PM
    Isabel_27

    I know it's not Miss. Is it OK for the two of them to just date? Not have sex?
  • Oct 26, 2008, 05:36 PM
    J_9
    It's perfectly fine to date and not have sex. However, they have already had sex. This is hard to stop once a teen has started.
  • Oct 26, 2008, 05:40 PM
    Isabel_27

    I think these two can do it. I know you don't think so, cause you haven't met them. They are truly in love, he would never do anything that would but either of them in any form of danger. I will have a talk with them tomorrow and have them understand
  • Oct 26, 2008, 05:45 PM
    J_9
    I wish you luck!! It's so refreshing to see that a mother and her daughter and boyfriend can have such open discussions these days. More parents should be like you.
  • Oct 26, 2008, 05:52 PM
    Isabel_27

    Thank you for your help. I was never close with my mother, and I didn't want to be like that with my child. So when I had a dughter I did all I could to be home with her and giver her all the attention she needed. We are really close now. And I just love her boyfriend to death, he is such a gentalman
  • Oct 26, 2008, 05:53 PM
    J_9
    I'm so happy to hear this. I am the same with my daughter. You are a good Mom... I'm sure they will take what you say to heart.

    But, just in case, why don't you take her to get on some form of birth control.
  • Oct 26, 2008, 05:55 PM
    Isabel_27

    Thank you Miss. I will let the chose be up to her.
  • Oct 26, 2008, 06:00 PM
    J_9
    Ah, you don't have to call me Miss... J will be fine!! ;)
  • Oct 26, 2008, 06:04 PM
    Isabel_27

    OK J. thanks for your help. I think these kids will do better. I thought I would ask since I didn't want either being in trouble. He just turned 18 today and she won't be 18 till April of 2010 (I know it sounds like 2 years apart but they really aren't. Only a year and a half).
  • Oct 26, 2008, 06:28 PM
    Troubled_Girl

    Just because he's 18 doesn't mean anything. I've dated a 17 year old when I was 15 years old. It's the same age diff and no one started calling the cops about that lol no but really enless he's pushing her into something she doesn't want to do it is legal. My mom married my dad and he is 8 years older! Its always hard to hear your daughter is having sex with anyone but in this case it is legal don't worry!
  • Oct 26, 2008, 06:33 PM
    liz28

    Actually it is not legal for them for them to have sex but they can date. The legal age of consent in her age is 18 so if anyone 18 years or older engage in any sexual activity with her 16 year old daughter they can go to jail and be label as a sex offender for life.
  • Oct 26, 2008, 06:36 PM
    J_9
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Troubled_Girl View Post
    Just because hes 18 doesnt mean anything. ive dated a 17 year old when i was 15 years old. its the same age diff and no one started calling the cops about that lol no but really enless hes pushing her into something she doesnt want to do it is legal. my mom married my dad and he is 8 years older! its always hard to hear your daughter is having sex with anyone but in this case it is legal dont worry!

    Guess you better check out this website...

    A table of worldwide ages of consent, including US states
  • Oct 26, 2008, 06:53 PM
    ScottGem

    There are no laws that govern dating anywhere I know of. I agree with you that the age difference is not too great and I see no problem in these two dating.

    But you NEED to impress upon both of them that their engaging in sexual relations IS illegal in your state. He can be prosecuted whether you press charges or not. He could wind up with jail time and a sex offender charge hanging over his head.
  • Oct 26, 2008, 07:04 PM
    jrsg
    Wow, very good parenting. It is good to see that this was already resolved, but I just had to compliment you on your parental skills! I am 16, male, and this is nice to see. I have a fairly open relationship with my parents as well, and it makes life so much easier for me and my parents. Just basically wanted to say good job, so good job! Thank you!

    Still, make sure you inform them of the legal risks. ScottGem is right, and a sex offender charge would make life much more difficult for your daughters boyfriend. Its too bad, but unfortunately, it is law.
  • Oct 27, 2008, 04:03 AM
    XRawrX69
    Actually all these people are right it is statutory rape. But really unless you have a problem with these two dating then leave it alone I think if they love each other and you like the guy then nothing is wrong with that as long as no one reports it. True love has no age limits
  • Oct 27, 2008, 05:57 AM
    ScottGem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by XRawrX69 View Post
    actually all these people are right it is statutory rape. But really unless you have a problem with these two dating then leave it alone i think if they love each other and you like the guy then nothing is wrong with that as long as no one reports it. True love has no age limits

    That is so idealistic and so ridiculous I had to respond to it. So you believe that a 14 yr old can feel "true love" for a 24 yr old? Or vice versa? Give me a break!

    You are correct that, since the age of consent for TN is 18 that for them to engage in sexual relations would be statutory rape. However, your advice to leave it alone is off base. The boy is risking jail and a lifetime designation as a sex offender. They are also risking having their futures sidetracked by an unwanted pregnancy. So no, leave it alone is not good advice In my opinion.
  • Oct 27, 2008, 12:29 PM
    SimpleguyJoe

    The fact is that once a teen has sex they will continue to do so. More so if they are both enjoying it. They might cut drastically down on how much they have but I don't think they will stop completely.

    A year and a half is a long time for an 18 year old boy, but I would love to see him prove me wrong!
  • Oct 27, 2008, 01:00 PM
    XRawrX69
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ScottGem View Post
    That is so idealistic and so ridiculous I had to respond to it. So you beleive that a 14 yr old can feel "true love" for a 24 yr old? Or vice versa? Give me a break!

    You are correct that, since the age of consent for TN is 18 that for them to engage in sexual relations would be statutory rape. However, your advice to leave it alone is off base. The boy is risking jail and a lifetime designation as a sex offender. They are also risking having their futures sidetracked by an unwanted pregnancy. So no, leave it alone is not good advice IMHO.

    Okay well 1; I said that she should let them be together I never said she should let them have sex. 2; before they even had numbers I bet older guys and younger girls or even younger guys and older girls were together. 3; If the are having protected sex she won't get pregnant! Oh and 4; he won't get jail time or be a registered sex offender if no one reports him. And the 14 year old and 24 year old thing is outrageous she's 16 and he's 18.
  • Oct 27, 2008, 01:04 PM
    aaj2008

    Dating is not illegal! Friendship is not illegal! Sexually touching one another yes... oh and by the way.. if you know about it... you are just as liable as the guy
  • Oct 27, 2008, 04:38 PM
    ScottGem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by XRawrX69 View Post
    Okay well 1; i said that she should let them be together i never said she should let them have sex. 2; before they even had numbers i bet older guys and younger girls or even younger guys and older girls were together. 3; If the are having protected sex she won't get pregnant! Oh and 4; he won't get jail time or be a registered sex offender if no one reports him. And the 14 year old and 24 year old thing is outrageous she's 16 and he's 18.

    1) What you actually said was; "unless you have a problem with these two dating then leave it alone". That infers letting them continue as they are.
    2) Different times had vastly different standards on thises things. As recently as the 19th century, when life spans were a lot shorter and children were required to grow up a lot quicker, the mores were different. But we aren't talking about prehistoric times or over 100 years ago. We are talking about now!
    3) Oh really? You know of a 100% effective form of birth control (other than abstention)? If so, please share it with us.
    4) True, but if someone does report him or she gets pregnant, then he's in big trouble.
    4a) yes, the 14-24 was an extreme example. But what YOU said was; "True love has no age limits". So now you admit that's a ridiculous statement because there are limits.
  • Oct 27, 2008, 05:22 PM
    XRawrX69
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ScottGem View Post
    1) What you actually said was; "unless you have a problem with these two dating then leave it alone". That infers letting them continue as they are.
    2) Different time periods had vastly different standards on thises things. As recently as the 19th century, when life spans were a lot shorter and children were required to grow up a lot quicker, the mores were different. But we aren't talking about prehistoric times or over 100 years ago. We are talking about now!
    3) Oh really? You know of a 100% effective form of birth control (other than abstention)? If so, please share it with us.
    4) True, but if someone does report him or she gets pregnant, then he's in big trouble.
    4a) yes, the 14-24 was an extreme example. But what YOU said was; "True love has no age limits". So now you admit that's a rediculous statement because there are limits.

    1.Yeah but I never said anything about the sex part. And even if she tried to stop it they probably wouldn't stop.
    2.Dude I know were talking about now what I was trying to say was what's the difference and who's to say that a mature person is in love or not no matter how old they are because a lot of OLDER guys are more mature than the YOUNGER ones.
    3.Umm there's also condoms and birth control so there's little chance of pregnancy. Every teenager is at risk of getting pregnant no matter if their boyfriend is 16 or 18.
    4.I don't think there should be limits. Okay 14 to 24 is big but whatever a lot of people 8 years or 10 years apart get married and I also meant in this situation true love shouldn't be a limit maybe I should have made it more clear.
  • Oct 27, 2008, 06:27 PM
    ScottGem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by XRawrX69 View Post
    1.Yeah but i never said anything about the sex part. And even if she tried to stop it they probablly wouldn't stop.
    2.Dude i know were talking about now what i was trying to say was what's the difference and who's to say that a mature person is in love or not no matter how old they are because a lot of OLDER guys are more mature than the YOUNGER ones.
    3.Umm there's also condoms and birth control so there's little chance of pregnancy. Every teenager is at risk of getting pregnant no matter if their boyfriend is 16 or 18.
    4.I don't think there should be limits. Okay 14 to 24 is big but whatever a lot of people 8 years or 10 years apart get married and i also ment in this situation true love shouldn't be a limit maybe i should have made it more clear.

    1. That's right you never said ANYTHING about the sex part. But, again, since the OP mentioned and you told her to leave it alone, the inference was to leave that part alone too.
    2. umm Duh, usually with age comes greater maturity. But you are missing the point. Age does matter. As both parties get older it matters less and less. I have no problem with the age difference here, but the law in their state does have a problem with them having sexual relations.
    3. Um no, only teens who engage in sexual relations risk getting pregnant. And again, I go back to what you actually said; "If the are having protected sex she won't get pregnant!". You didn't say she probablywon't get pregnant or she's unlikely to get pregnant, you said she "won't" get pregnant.
    4. You can't have it both ways. You can't think there shouldn't be a limit but then say that 14-24 is big. I don't see a problem with a 34-44, but when the difference involes an adult and a minor there is usually a big problem.

    Yeah, you should be more clear. That's the problem here. You aren't carefully considering what you post. You are making statements that make you look foolish and then compounding the problem by trying to defend them.
  • Oct 27, 2008, 07:00 PM
    BlessdWitTalenT

    I don't think it matters if its illegal unless you plan on turning him in. I mean, who's going to find out they're having sex? And then who's going to take it to the cops?

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