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I find it insulting that you just said that about my sister and no she's not "playing games" with her boyfriend. She's 23 and a big girl and he's protecting me, my sister and my girlfriends. When I say she stays with her boyfriend do you realise that I mean next door?
NOT at the festival. At the festival, according to your posts, she is in a hotel room and YOU are in a tent. Are you now trying to change that arrangement or add another 'adult' to it?Quote:
Originally Posted by rosanna-hope
No I said it would be easier if she went to a hotel as she doesn't like camping. But she's considering staying in a tent.
You are still using a kids argument on an adult subject. DO you REALLY believe all of that.. Females are statistically almost as likely to commit crimes these days as young males. And combine those two groups... a youung female is far more likely to be the victim of either group than a guy is.Quote:
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DO you think there are more than a couple security guards for everyone there, and that they will be paying any attention to anything but keeping people from sneeking in without paying.
DO you know that I can be inside a tent in about 2 seconds, locked or not. DO you have any idea how quickly you can be gagged? About a second or two longer. How long would it take for you to wake up, recognise what was happening and think how to react from a sleep? A LOT longer than that I'll tell you.
The longer you try and argue this the worse your arguments are getting. They all highlight exactly how ill prepared you really are to attend an even't like this.
I'm sure your dad and your sister have all this figured out.
Can I ask, what's your mother take on this?
smoothy I suggest you stop talking to me about your disgusting theories and you emphasise the right bits.
redhed35; I don't live with my mother and haven't spoken to her for many years, her opinion is not valuable to me in any way what so ever.
I though you said your sister would be staying at a hotel, because she doesn't like camping. Does your dad know this? I don't think anyone on this site would insult you or your sister. We are trying to make a point.
We are trying to say if you are not chaperoned properly by an adult who is going to be there not next door, then you could get into all kinds of trouble. Maybe you don't recognize the dangers, but we do.
No one is trying to hurt your feelings, but you wanted our opinion and when we give them you have an argument against every one. We are trying to tell you how unsafe iti s for a child of fourteen to be in an atmosphere that is unsafe.
Rosanna,smoothy is right,horrible things happen at concerts,I'm only in ireland,I know there is security and everyone is searched,but even still I'm sure you have heard horror stories too.
I reread your original post,and for me,if I were in your shoes,I would gladly have my sister come with me and stay in the tent,if you want your dad to trust you AND kim to look out for you,you both need to follow his rules.
That's how you get him to trust you,that's how you get more freedom as you get older.
My sister was allowed to go to reading festival when she turned 15 and I think its only fair that I can go too?
Did she have a chaperone?Quote:
Originally Posted by rosanna-hope
You may not think its fair,but your dad had made the decision,he's looking out for you,he loves you and is trying his best no doubt...Quote:
Originally Posted by rosanna-hope
My advice,give him a break,do as he asks,there will be plenty more concerts,and plenty more times to come that will seem unfair.
Really... and nothing EVER happens like that? Seriously... You are sleeping in a flimsy tent. And a lock on a zipper is going to stop exactly whom?Quote:
Originally Posted by rosanna-hope
There is a LOT worse things that can happen than I mentioned... did you even Google up Morgan Harrington?
She was in College... went to a concert with friends.. got separated... dissappeared... and they found her dead and not at the concert.
Seriously... if you were mature enough to attend a festival those are EXACTLY the sorts of things you should be thinking about. Because let me tell you... there are a lot of really sick individuals out there... and you may even know a few of them. You just don't know who they are yet.
Did her sister have a chaperone?Quote:
Originally Posted by redhed35
No, my sister went behind my dads back, she went with her girlfriends and she was perfectly fine and said it was one of the best and most fun experiences of her life.
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Originally Posted by rosanna-hope
She got lucky,anything could have happened,she was not allowed go!
You are allowed go if she goes with you and stays with you,sounds like you got a good deal.
smoothy the only UK abduction of a minor was Madeline McCann, this wasn't even in the UK, I'm not saying it couldn't happen but the likelihood is exremely low and also since 1998 there have been no cases of abduction or rape at both reading and leeds festivals.
And there are also a lot of missing persons that did the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by rosanna-hope
They don't always find the bodies. Its doesn't always work out for the best...
A music festival isn't Disneyworld. Your dad knows this... you refuse to accept the reality of it. And you REALLY need to start thinking about what could happen... because until you acknowledge it and are ready for it... you will be at a higher risk of being a victim of it.
Of course he knows its not disneyland, I don't refuse to accept it, I've already accepted it and I'm finding a way around it - you're trying to frighten me in telling me the facts which is the worst way around it.
500 children a year abducted from UK | Society | The Guardian
Rosanna over 500 children were abducted last year in the uk,the danger is very real.
Just because it does not make the news,does not mean its not happening.
smoothy is making very real points,it wise to know so you can be aware.
Your going to the concert,your sister is going too,you can still enjoy the time and be cautious and safe.
That's what your dad is getting at.
Your safety.
I feel that I can't still enjoy myself with my sister, she takes control over everything I do - I'm sick of being dictated and I want freedom, I'm 15 and I'm going to reading festival.. I don't think anyone on this shouldve told me unless theyd actually been to reading/leeds or any other uk festival..
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