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Originally Posted by survivorboi

i agree with J_9:

Sleeping pills do not seem to work with kids! Unless they are super strong dose!

But in that case, its not good for early brain development. Whatever you do, stay away from as much drug as possible. A child is better living a drug-free life, anything natural is better then man made. Maybe vitamins is okay, allergy is a exception, you can't do anything about a runny nose....

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Survivorboi, it's best to stay within your expertise, and at your age, you are not an expert in medicine.

Super strong medicines will KILL a child. In dealing with pediatrics, as I do on a daily basis, we prescribe the medication according to the weight of the child. Super strong doses can even kill adults.

Lol, when I first read through I thought you said 14 YEAR old, LOL oops...

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Originally Posted by 450donn

Do you know for a fact that there is no medical reason for this? If you do then ask the doctor for sleeping pills for her, and try them for a couple of nights. Other than that, she is trying to be the boss and apparently is succeeding at it.

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Originally Posted by anthonyh

lol, when i first read through i thought you said 14 YEAR old, LOL oops...

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Wow, now I'm really confused!!

Oh my... nobody read things correctly these days...

Sleeping pills / medicine I would certainly not be in favour for. Unless perscribed from a doctor as they advised it the only option - no parents should be buying these over the counter to give to kids just so they can get a goods night sleep !

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Originally Posted by J_9

Wow, now I'm really confused!!!

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I was not advocating running out to the drug store and buying sleeping pills over the counter and dosing the kid up. But if there is no physical problems a competent pediatrician could prescribe the proper dose of a relaxant that given at bed time might be beneficial in this extreme case.

I have given my daughter calpol and an antibiotic for a bad cough once though any sort of sleeping tablets I am not for at all.

Mum2five I took your advice last night and again tonight. Last night she must have been very tired and for the first time in months she went to bed in her OWN bed with minimum temper - I felt like crying with joy! Not only did she go to bed but she stayed asleep until 7.30am!

Tonight has been a different matter - temper came again though through taking your 3 minute outside room suggestion whilst keeping eye on her through door where she couldn't see so she wouldn't hurt herself (yes that still scares me!) it has only taken an hour of temper and it was extreme only for about half an hour. I hope that shestays in bed all night tonight, though I feel that we may be getting there. I think everyone's reassurance and help and people to talk to have really helped. Ill let you know how it goes over the weekend - as I'm sure its not the end of the extreme tantrums though fingers crossed.

Fingers crossed at this end x