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  • May 28, 2013, 11:29 PM
    Wiggles2011
    Paranormal: Poltergeist or parasitic Ghosts/Spirits?
    Greetings:
    I have been dealing with all kinds of weird and sometimes frightening experiences in my home for several months. From bangs, knocks, taps, very loud noises like rocks being thrown at the walls, extreme fatigue, being woken up several times at night,(1:30, 2:30, 3:00, 4:09 am), having words blasted in my ear while I sleep, voices, red marks on my body that are painful but usually go away with half a day, prick marks on my legs after sleeping at night which are painful, sounds of someone walking around room, sounds of someone going through belongings on nightstand, TV turning on by itself, lights turning off and then on again, walking noises in crawl space above bedroom, video camera was knocked off night stand when I tried to video tape or lights were turned off, camera has caught one or two self illuminating orbs (ie not dust or dirt), a woman and mans face together in a mirror, one photo of a transparent black mist near the ceiling, they have terrorized my 3 four legged pets numerous time.

    I have had them cleared out long distance and then a new group shows up or I get them piggy backed on me when out doing errands or social events, white light and those types of protection do not work, neither has sea salt as barriers to getting into the house nor burning sage incense or spraying sage spray (due to lung issues, cannot tolerate sage bundles burning). I don't know what I have, not what to do.

    Is there anyone familiar with this kind of torment, any advice, any insight would be most appreciated. Thank you very much!
  • May 29, 2013, 07:24 AM
    Fr_Chuck
    Magic, does not stop magic, or evil spirits, esp if they have some claim to you, or to the home.
    You do not clean out spirits long distance. ** that should have got a laugh from the spirits.

    So what do you think they are ? Have you gotten any relief
  • May 29, 2013, 10:51 AM
    Wiggles2011
    [i thought your post was going to have or offer some help, not make fun of me. If I knew what they were, I wouldn't be posting on line with a cry for help and advice.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck View Post
    Magic, does not stop magic, or evil spirits, esp if they have some claim to you, or to the home.
    You do not clean out spirits long distance. ** that should have got a laugh from the spirits.

    So what do you think they are ? have you gotten any relief

  • May 29, 2013, 10:55 AM
    Wondergirl
    How old are you? 14? 32? 68?
  • May 29, 2013, 10:59 AM
    Wiggles2011
    I am 50 years old
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    How old are you? 14? 32? 68?

  • May 29, 2013, 11:23 AM
    Wondergirl
    Has this sort of thing happened in the past?
  • May 29, 2013, 11:59 AM
    cdad
    When you were trying to video tape events and the camera fell over was there anything that was caught on camera? Have you posted any of the videos or audio of the events anywhere like YouTube or other service?

    Fr_Chuck was not trying to make fun of you but trying to bring to light that there is so many falsehoods when dealing with situations. Depending on what is really going on there is only limited ways to get relief. You need to be very careful with what you try as it can do more harm then good or cause false hope.
  • May 29, 2013, 02:43 PM
    Wiggles2011
    No I have not experienced anything like this in the past, I've experienced paranormal activity when going to a haunted hotel or place nut never in my home

    Th
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Has this sort of thing happened in the past?

  • May 29, 2013, 02:59 PM
    Wiggles2011
    Only thing caught on tape since there was not a lot of illumination was the bedroom door opened on its on and opened about 3 inches, five mi items later the camera was pull up out of the box that was holding it (the box never fell off the night stand) and you see the camera whizzing around (and you could hear it hit the floor) and ended up about 3-4 feet from the night stand. I converted the video to audio and can hear a female child say "keep throwing it" and then "that was fun" or "that was funny ".

    No I would not put anything like that on YouTube, I try to be as private as I can.

    Somehow Fr Chuck's response, as a paranormal expert, showed lack of knowledge about magic, which is a very real thing and something I stay away from.

    I realize one needs to be careful as you can make matters worse which is why I initially asked on this forum, to perhaps get ideas or advice from others who may have experienced something similar.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cdad View Post
    When you were trying to video tape events and the camera fell over was there anything that was caught on camera? Have you posted any of the videos or audio of the events anywhere like youtube or other service?

    Fr_Chuck was not trying to make fun of you but trying to bring to light that there is so many falsehoods when dealing with situations. Depending on what is really going on there is only limited ways to get relief. You need to be very careful with what you try as it can do more harm then good or cause false hope.

  • May 29, 2013, 06:21 PM
    hauntinghelper
    Wiggles, Cdad said it, but let me back that up, Fr_Chuck is one of the last people on this forum that will make fun of or degrade someone. And his views on magic and how the spiritual world works is very solid.

    What Fr_Chuck was originally saying is very accurate. The spirit world works mostly in deception, and though there is no true power behind sage, salts, etc... spirits will use that as a way to keep one focused on superstition, fear and ignorance. Those rites/tools all have occult related backgrounds and are the very nature of how they deceive humanity. Despite what current ghost hunting ideals teach, the spirit world is not so "cut and dry". There very likely is a foothold of some kind in your life these spirits are using as a right to manifest around you. People like Cdad and Fr_Chuck come to this forum with a very realistic and level head. Nobody is making fun of or scolding you.

    I've read through your post and the responses and something stands out to me. Why did you go to a haunted hotel?
  • May 29, 2013, 06:43 PM
    Wiggles2011
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hauntinghelper View Post
    Wiggles,

    What Fr_Chuck was originally saying is very accurate. The spirit world works mostly in deception, and though there is no true power behind sage, salts, etc...spirits will use that as a way to keep one focused on superstition, fear and ignorance. Those rites/tools all have occult related backgrounds and are the very nature of how they deceive humanity. Despite what current ghost hunting ideals teach, the spirit world is not so "cut and dry". There very likely is a foothold of some kind in your life these spirits are using as a right to manifest around you.

    *****can you please give me am example of a type of foot hold?****

    IWhy did you go to a haunted hotel?

    ****to collect evidence of the different rooms the owners claim to be haunted for an article in a magazine****

    Thanks for your response
  • May 29, 2013, 06:56 PM
    hauntinghelper
    Well, a foothold is simply anything in your life a spirit can use to have influence. It can be some kind of vice or even a preoccupation with something.

    Are you a paranormal investigator or a writer?
  • May 29, 2013, 07:33 PM
    Wiggles2011
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hauntinghelper View Post
    Well, a foothold is simply anything in your life a spirit can use to have influence. It can be some kind of vice or even a preoccupation with something.


    Are you a paranormal investigator or a writer?

    Paranormal investigator
  • May 29, 2013, 08:41 PM
    Wiggles2011
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hauntinghelper View Post
    Well, a foothold is simply anything in your life a spirit can use to have influence. It can be some kind of vice or even a preoccupation with something.

    ***almost everyone, whether they investigate the paranormal or not, has some vice unless they are someone like Mother Teresa. My question is why don't I hear about similar stories elsewhere to mine ? How does one peel these beings off your back permanently?

    When this all started up and realized it was not my imagination, I stopped work on my article, with only one more room to check out before I could begin writing. I have always had a fascination with this subject but it is only in the past 5-10 years that it stopped having the stigma attached to it and has been accepted more mainstream.

    What would those here that investigate the paranormal do if they were in my shoes ?*****

    Thanks to all who have taken the time to comment, BTW. It is most appreciated.
  • May 30, 2013, 04:11 AM
    cdad
    Here is the thing. When you intend on performing in a field like this then your leaving a window open in your world for things to enter. How to close that window poses a problem. You need to figure out what is really going on. You could have gotten an object that has a spirit attatched to it or negative energy that causes a beacon around you for paranormal activity. So you first need to start with an inventory of your life and things you have taken in since all this began. From there you can start to gain control. There are many levels and that is why it is very important to sort it out before you actually begin to remove any type of entity around you.
  • May 30, 2013, 06:42 AM
    tickle
    When you are a paranormal investigator, as you say you are, you enter into situations whereby you need protection so that you will not come out with any spirit baggage do to speak. It appears you have not been a PI for a very long time because you have accumulated some of this baggage and brought it home with you. Now you and your surroundings need a 'cleansing'.

    As for Fr chuck, he is an ordained minister along with his other attributes, so I believe you can take his advice and accept it as knowledgeable.
  • May 30, 2013, 10:58 AM
    Wiggles2011
    [QUOTE=tickle;3474278]When you are a paranormal investigator, as you say you are, you enter into situations whereby you need protection so that you will not come out with any spirit baggage do to speak. It appears you have not been a PI for a very long time because you have accumulated some of this baggage and brought it home with you. Now yohu and your surroundings need a 'cleansing'.

    ****okay, please tell me what someone does to protect themselves and then I will tell you what I do***i already mentioned something's I've tried for protection and was told that those things are ploys to distract me and that they are telayed to the occult, i.e. sea salt, sage, white light and so on. But those aren't the only things I've tried. I am beginning to think there is really no way to protect yourself.***
  • May 30, 2013, 11:03 AM
    Wiggles2011
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cdad View Post
    Here is the thing. When you intend on performing in a field like this then your leaving a window open in your world for things to enter. How to close that window poses a problem. You need to figure out what is really going on. You could have gotten an object that has a spirit attatched to it or negative energy that causes a beacon around you for paranormal activity. So you first need to start with an inventory of your life and things you have taken in since all this began. From there you can start to gain control. There are many levels and that is why it is very important to sort it out before you actually begin to remove any type of entity around you.

    ***i have purchased antique type items and I was given a doll that was from the early 1900's that I felt was haunted. I sold the doll to someone who knew what I thought about her and this person collects these kinds of dolls, why, I have no idea but I didn't want her in my house anymore. As for any items I may have purchased, I would not have a clue if any of them had spirits attached to them****
  • May 30, 2013, 11:18 AM
    tickle
    We are only susceptible to psychic attacks when our aura is weak. Our aura can be weakened in many ways, by the obvious which is sickness, by impure thoughts, ongoing arguments with those close to you. I am sure you get the idea. When our aura is strong and healthy, spirits cannot attack, latch on, there is no entrance for them.

    Wiggles, something must have happened to you emotionally devastating to weaken your aura, and the result now is your bombardment by evil intentioned spirits.

    There are certain gemstones that you could carry on your person such as bloodstone, or opal. Some believe in herbs to counter evil spirits, such as wild sage.
  • May 30, 2013, 11:20 AM
    tickle
    Thanks WG for editing.
  • May 30, 2013, 01:27 PM
    tickle
    Interesting post Wiggles about the doll. My speciality is psychometry, doesn't always work for me if the article is extremely diluted, but oft times I can touch a piece of jewellery, clothing, a chair in a junk shop, and feel vibrations and get images. I guess I might say that I can function better this way when my aura is working full out and those times are when I have no stress in my life, etc. I also wear an opal at all times and have noticed it changes colours occasionally, I can only guess at what that means but haven't really thought about it too much,
  • May 30, 2013, 08:36 PM
    Wiggles2011
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tickle View Post
    It appears you have not been a PI for a very long time because you have accumulated some of this baggage and brought it home with you. Now yohu and your surroundings need a 'cleansing'

    .
    ****just because someone has ended up with spirits harassing them does not mean they are new to the field, if anything, the longer you are in involved in this field, the higher the chances are that you may end up with a problem. It was presumptuous to say I did not protect myself. I pray to God for protection, recite Psalms 91 And 58 when entering an area I want to check out as well as wear a cross and carry rosary beads. I say the same prayer and psalms when I leave and state that no spirits are allowed to leave with me***
  • May 30, 2013, 08:44 PM
    Wiggles2011
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tickle View Post
    Interesting post Wiggles about the doll. My speciality is psychometry, doesnt always work for me if the article is extremely diluted, but oft times I can touch a piece of jewellery, clothing, a chair in a junk shop, and feel vibrations and get images. I guess i might say that i can function better this way when my aura is working full out and those times are when I have no stress in my life, etc. I also wear an opal at all times and have noticed it changes colours occasionally, I can only guess at what that means but havent really thought about it too much,

    Very interesting about your having the ability to do psychometry. I looked high and low for someone who could read that doll for me. The one I found was too afraid of the doll to read it, not kidding. The doll always would register on an EMF meter and it would tick up and down like a heart. Sounds weird but anyone who has investigated knows the uses of that equipment for finding possibly haunted areas. That doll had a pull on me like you would not believe, but I had to let her go. Better that she be with someone who can handle something like that.
  • May 30, 2013, 08:57 PM
    Wiggles2011
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tickle View Post
    We are only susceptible to psychic attacks when our aura is weak. Our aura can be weakened in many ways, by the obvious which is sickness, by impure thoughts, ongoing arguments with those close to you. I am sure you get the idea. When our aura is strong and healthy, spirits cannot attack, latch on, there is no entrance for them.

    Wiggles, something must have happened to you emotionally devastating to weaken your aura, and the end result now is your bombardment by evil intentioned spirits.

    There are certain gemstones that you could carry on your person such as bloodstone, or opal. Some believe in herbs to counter evil spirits, such as wild sage.

    Very interesting post, thank you. What can be done to strengthen ones aura? I believe you may have come pretty close to a possible weakness in my aura, one being sickness and the second being my childhood. I guess you cannot just bury trauma when investigating the paranormal. Now I have a place to start since I have recently gone into remission and perhaps the childhood issues need to be addressed with someone knowledgeable. Btw, They don't like sage as evidenced by the spray sage I use (burning sage is not good for my health) but has turned out to only be a temporary fix unfortunately.

    Thank you again for your insightful response.
  • May 31, 2013, 06:19 AM
    hauntinghelper
    Reciting scripture is not going to be any use to you if you take it out of context with the rest of the Bible.

    Understand this, God does not simply protect anyone that repeats a very small verse from a much larger source. He protects those that belong to Him... those that are in His will. That cannot be said about someone who plays in the occult and with the spirit world. The same can be said of wearing a cross and rosary... these things don't repel evil. The power behind them does, and that power isn't something we can pick up and use whenever we feel like it or willingly walk into a dangerous situation.

    Reading through all of these posts, it's clear you deal a lot in the spirit world.. and there is no wonder you have problems like you are having.
  • May 31, 2013, 10:31 AM
    Wiggles2011
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hauntinghelper View Post
    Reciting scripture is not going to be any use to you if you take it out of context with the rest of the Bible.

    Understand this, God does not simply protect anyone that repeats a very small verse from a much larger source. He protects those that belong to Him ...those that are in His will. That cannot be said about someone who plays in the occult and with the spirit world. The same can be said of wearing a cross and rosary...these things don't repel evil. The power behind them does, and that power isn't something we can pick up and use whenever we feel like it or willingly walk into a dangerous situation.

    Reading through all of these posts, it's clear you deal a lot in the spirit world..and there is no wonder you have problems like you are having.

    How many times have we heard that people got out of a bad situation, could be anything from being buried in a mine that has collapsed, in the ruins of an earthquake, have been given a death sentence with their health and things have turned around because they prayed to God. I have learned and am bowing out of a discussion on religion because one is always told two topics to not discuss if you want to get along with people is religion and politics. I don't believe my issue is what I do with investigating, it is an issue with past events in my life and possibly a health issue.

    Thanks for your response and to everyone else, I do appreciate the time people took to voice their ideas and opinions. We don't have to disagree, just agree to disagree. ��
  • May 31, 2013, 10:39 AM
    tickle
    You don't have to 'bow out' of a religious discussion, Wiggles, it isn't one, nor will it turn into one on the paranormal board. HH is only bringing up a usual topic within the paranormal discussion; and that is all it is, a topic.
  • May 31, 2013, 10:42 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wiggles2011 View Post
    How many times have we heard that people got out of a bad situation, could be anything from being buried in a mine that has collapsed, in the ruins of an earthquake, have been given a death sentence with their health and things have turned around because they prayed to God.

    I can't let your comment pass (but a response isn't necessary since this isn't the thread for it). Rhetorical questions: But what if they prayed but the results were not what they had wanted or hoped for? Does that negate their faith? Or God's omnipotence?
  • May 31, 2013, 01:03 PM
    hauntinghelper
    I know and fully understand not everybody shares this view. I only brought it up the way I did because reciting certain verses was brought up. I know of many people who have misused scripture and then get mad at "God" when it doesn't work. If you're going to invoke a Christian practice, at least fully understand the Christian context of it all.

    You asked for help, I'm only bringing up some of the issues that I've noticed in your responses. There's obviously a lot going on in your life spiritually. One can't deal in haunted objects, haunted places, spiritual practices, etc, without eventually getting some serious spiritual baggage.
  • Jun 1, 2013, 04:29 PM
    Wiggles2011
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    I can't let your comment pass (but a response isn't necessary since this isn't the thread for it). Rhetorical questions: But what if they prayed but the results were not what they had wanted or hoped for? Does that negate their faith? or God's omnipotence?

    That I cannot answer. People have said to me if God or Jesus is so wonderful then why is there so much suffering in the world? I don't have an answer for that but it does make one think. Why does a child of two years old die if cancer my friend once asked me (her child). I don't know why some prayers are answered and some aren't. I think the answer comes when you go to the other side, heaven or whatever you want to call it.
  • Jun 1, 2013, 04:34 PM
    Wiggles2011
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tickle View Post
    You dont have to 'bow out' of a religious discussion, Wiggles, it isnt one, nor will it turn into one on the paranormal board. HH is only bringing up a usual topic within the paranormal discussion; and that is all it is, a topic.

    I see it as a topic or discussion that could become hot. I came here for advice on a situation going on in my life and asked for some advice on what I could do. I did ask how could I strengthen my aura or what does one do to patch it up?
  • Jun 1, 2013, 09:30 PM
    sweetismami28
    Find a minister to bless the home I mean a bible studying belief type. That's what helped me be able to return to my home after strange experiences occurred. There was no way I'd enter without the house being blessed I was freaked out by my phone and messages through the windows calendar. I thought it was a hacker but found out it wasn't possible to hack. My son green lantern ring began flashing off and on without me pressing the button. Get your pets out if they began to have a lost of appetite then u have ruined them. The last thing u want is be responsible for your pets being put to sleep. If you leave it may follow I was up even when I left to go stay at my moms. I felt I was being watched in the dark its horrific. Your experience seems demonic as if its possessed or trying to possess you if you tell a Dr they would maybe think you were making those marks. Speak to a church or even a priest who practice demonology, exorcisms and what ever else there is. Don't let it continue and I hope u don't waste time fighting evil with evil solutions, like non believers with so called solutions.
  • Jun 2, 2013, 02:35 AM
    tickle
    @sweetismami, I hope you are not calling contributors to this thread 'non believers with so called solutions'. Anyone who answered here are pretty sure of their beliefs in the paranormal.
  • Jun 2, 2013, 07:14 PM
    Wiggles2011
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sweetismami28 View Post
    Find a minister to bless the home I mean a bible studying belief type. That's what helped me be able to return to my home after strange experiences occurred. There was no way I'd enter without the house being blessed I was freaked out by my phone and messages through the windows calendar. I thought it was a hacker but found out it wasn't possible to hack. My son green lantern ring began flashing off and on without me pressing the button. Get your pets out if they began to have a lost of appetite then u have ruined them. The last thing u want is be responsible for your pets being put to sleep. If you leave it may follow I was up even when I left to go stay at my moms. I felt I was being watched in the dark its horrific. Your experience seems demonic as if its possessed or trying to posess you if you tell a Dr they would maybe think you were making those marks. Speak to a church or even a priest who practice demonology, exorcisms and what ever else there is. Don't let it continue and I hope u don't waste time fighting evil with evil solutions, like non believers with so called solutions.

    Thank you, Sweet Mami, for your response and advice. I understand where you are coming from and understand the meaning of your response. Thanks for taking the time to respond.
  • Jun 3, 2013, 02:24 AM
    tickle
    @Wiggles. I think it is obvious that once the aura is damaged, then the only way to 'patch it up' is to lead an exemplary life which would be nearly impossible to do once someone is older, unless you went in the priesthood.

    The discussion was not about religion, and don't you think we know how that can mushroom? Usually when that happens, posts are closed down just for that reason and not allowed to continue. It seems to have worked, we have no ongoing threads about religion.

    By the way, I thought you had washed your hands of this thread, and didn't want to discuss this any longer?
  • Jun 5, 2013, 06:16 PM
    sweetismami28
    What ever I wrote is what I believe and from my experience it is what helped me. It is also my opinion now is there anything else u want to know?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tickle View Post
    @sweetismami, I hope you are not calling contributors to this thread 'non believers with so called solutions'. Anyone who answered here are pretty sure of their beliefs in the paranormal.

  • Jun 5, 2013, 06:19 PM
    sweetismami28
    You are very welcome. I only wanted your problem to leave, and that is why I told you. I wasn't meaning to disrespect anyone else or their beliefs.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wiggles2011 View Post
    Thank you, Sweet Mami, for your response and advice. I understand where you are coming from and understand the meaning of your response. Thanks for taking the time to respond.

  • Jun 6, 2013, 03:41 AM
    tickle
    @sweetismami. I wasn't questioning your ability to express your own opinion, that is welcome here. What helped you may not help someone else, but my concern was that you were doubting the advice of paranormal members on AMHD.
  • Jun 8, 2013, 11:25 PM
    sweetismami28
    If they are secure in solving the issue then there should be no concerns good day!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tickle View Post
    @sweetismami. I wasnt questioning your ability to express your own opinion, that is welcome here. What helped you may not help someone else, but my concern was that you were doubting the advice of paranormal members on AMHD.


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