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  • Mar 14, 2011, 07:53 AM
    sunny_dee
    How do you know you have a ghost in your house?
    Can anyone help me,when I have taken footage on my camera you hear a voice coming in over the top of mines,it has happened on 3 occasions,all on the same day,this is one of the videos
  • Mar 14, 2011, 08:39 AM
    martinizing2
    With all the backround noise and static it is likely
    That the cause may be from your surroundings and the extraneous
    Input it can cause.

    What were you recording that the camera was constantly aimed at the floor?
    Some backround info on what you were doing and why may be useful.

    What does the voice say ?

    You could try again under more controlled conditions and see what happens.

    Keep all noise as minimal as possible and run the device.
    Ask if communication is being attempted , then wait for several seconds.
    Ask what is wanted and if help is needed.

    Then let the recorder run for an hour or two.

    Then listen to it and see if you detect any anomalies , voices or unusual sounds.

    It may not be a sophisticated investigation but it could be a way to identify
    What you heard or at least shed some light on the subject.

    Give it a try and please let us know what you find out or about any other
    Things that you feel may tie in.

    Could be a good science project that would be interesting to do and hear about.

    This world is full of mysteries and wonder , check it out.
  • Mar 14, 2011, 08:51 AM
    sunny_dee
    Comment on martinizing2's post
    I have another 2 videos and the voices in them,one saying leave me and the other one saying get away,I will put them on to,but excuse the langauge in them
  • Mar 14, 2011, 08:54 AM
    sunny_dee
    ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqjGEvUg8Vc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q5gLcT-wHw

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShSta3cRH60... the first one a voice the same as the second and an orb in the last one
  • Mar 14, 2011, 09:08 AM
    martinizing2

    I am checking the videos out now.
    I'll be right back
  • Mar 14, 2011, 09:17 AM
    sunny_dee
    Comment on martinizing2's post
    Thank you
  • Mar 14, 2011, 09:45 AM
    martinizing2

    I was able to pick it out on the last two with no trouble.

    The first one I intend to check again.

    I downloaded the videos and will see if I can find out anything
    By reducing or increasing some of frequencies and enhancing the output.

    Did you notice the sounds while recording or strictly on playback?

    If you feel like trying again under more controlled conditions I would like to check them out on some of my gadgets and software.

    I would like to know where in the world you are located if that's OK.
    To retain your privacy you can send me a private message while on this site.

    At the top right corner of your home page there is a message box. Click it and message me from there (martinizing2) and that can only be accessed by me.
    But only use it when privacy is an issue because we want all the info from the forums available for anyone who wants to access it.

    Anytime you post here , if I am not at this site I will be notified and will get back to you asap.

    I look forward to hearing from you again and it has been nice to meet you see a bit of your world.
  • Mar 14, 2011, 09:51 AM
    sunny_dee
    Comment on martinizing2's post
    I only heard the voices when the video was played back,never heard them while recording
  • Mar 14, 2011, 09:54 AM
    sunny_dee
    Comment on martinizing2's post
    I live in scotland
  • Mar 14, 2011, 07:02 PM
    hauntinghelper
    Are these voices on these recordings the only reason you believe your house to be haunted or have there been others instances? You question is really a simple one... How do you know when you have a ghost in the house? When all other explanations of the natural have been ruled out. But I think you're looking for a more detailed answer than that. I'm sure you are curious, if you do indeed have a spirit, as to it's motives and limitations?
  • Mar 14, 2011, 07:06 PM
    hauntinghelper
    Why were you recording in the first place? Just curious because you seem to be intentionally not filming anything specific?
  • Mar 15, 2011, 01:19 AM
    sunny_dee
    Comment on hauntinghelper's post
    I was down at my friends a couple of days before,recording just for fun and having a laugh,so when she came to my house,we just decided to recored,and my daughter had seen a white figure in her room the Sunday before
  • Mar 15, 2011, 01:03 PM
    hauntinghelper
    Was one of the voices picked up at the friends house as well? Or were these only found to be in your house?
    Did your daughter give any details about this white figure? Did it talk or motion to her? How long have you guys been in the this particular house?
  • Mar 15, 2011, 02:38 PM
    sunny_dee
    Comment on hauntinghelper's post
    The videos were all done at my own house,the figure moved across from one corner of her room to the other,we moved to this house in feb 2008
  • Mar 15, 2011, 02:43 PM
    sunny_dee
    Comment on hauntinghelper's post
    No that's not the only reason,my daughters saw a white figure in her bedroom a couple of sundays ago
  • Mar 15, 2011, 03:07 PM
    hauntinghelper
    Do you feel safe in your home? Does the possibility of a haunting unnerve you at all?
  • Mar 15, 2011, 03:12 PM
    sunny_dee
    Comment on hauntinghelper's post
    No I fell quite safe,my kids are very jumpy at any little noise,and I have heard a baby crying to and nobody lives in my building with a baby
  • Mar 15, 2011, 03:14 PM
    hauntinghelper
    Have you been able to learn the history of your building/apartment? It would be interesting what comes up.
  • Mar 15, 2011, 03:16 PM
    sunny_dee
    Comment on hauntinghelper's post
    I know my house is built on the top of a mine,but that's all I know just now
  • Mar 15, 2011, 03:20 PM
    hauntinghelper
    Comment on hauntinghelper's post
    Wow, that's neat history, haunting or not. The MOST important issue here is whether your children feel safe in their own home. I wouldn't say embrace these manifestations, but be careful what your family opens itself up to. I am not saying be afraid, I am just saying be careful. Please keep us posted with what's going on and somebody is always on here to help you.
  • Mar 15, 2011, 03:39 PM
    sunny_dee
    Comment on hauntinghelper's post
    I will and thank you so much for your help
  • Mar 16, 2011, 02:31 PM
    martinizing2
    I'm sorry this is taking longer than I thought it would.
    I see HH has been talking to you and he has got a couple of answers that I too am curious about.
    Mainly about any other activity that has caused you concern.
    I have one more question about the lady in white the children have seen and that is the age of the children.

    As for the recordings; The one with the orb is interesting in that many times these orbs turn out to be specks of dust close to the lens , but look like objects at a distance.
    In this case right before the orb appears you can see smoke (I noticed someone was smoking) and it is slowly drifting from left to right . The orb appears and moves swiftly toward the camera then veers left which is not what a speck of dust would do if floating on the air currants that were carrying the smoke.

    The first video with the voice is so cluttered with extraneous noise it can't be really be defined as anything because of the noise going on.

    The other one where the voice comes as you are looking at the kitchen sink is very clear and easy to isolate. Several people I have shown this to picked it out with no information other than being told to listen for an extra voice. This was 100% . Everybody got it first time they listened.
    Also , it is a frequency that would be extremely unusual for a human voice to be in. Not impossible but very unusual.

    If you would like to go on with this and try to get a more definitive perspective , try setting the camera on a stable platform like e tripod or on a table. Cut all other noise out as much as possible, then ask a question like is anyone here. Then wait several seconds. Ask what do you want? Wait again.
    Then say this is my house , do you know this? Wait. We don't want you here. Wait.
    I would then leave the camera running for several minutes before playback .

    If you want to try this let me know what happens. If a clearer recording is obtained it may be helpful.
    I want you to be aware that this attempt to get EVP (electronic voice phenomena) is used in many investigations , but carries the possibility of increasing the activity according to many sources.
    But the increased activity happens only in a small percentage of cases, but does happen.

    Let me know how you fell about this.
  • Mar 16, 2011, 02:37 PM
    martinizing2
    Also please use the "answer" box and not the "comments" to reply.
    This website uses several formats and when the comments box is used for answers
    It is very confusing in the other formats.
    Not everyone has access to the other formats and may not know this.

    Thanks.
  • Mar 16, 2011, 02:49 PM
    sunny_dee
    My kids are 16,14,12,it was the one at 16 who saw the figure going across her room,and she said it looked small,and ran very fast across her room floor,but when she went back to her room after screaming and running up the hall,when she went back down her room light was switched on, but that's all she can remember,

    I am very frightened to do it just in case anything happens to me,if I can get someone to sit with me I will do it and ask the questions thank you very much for your help
  • Mar 16, 2011, 03:02 PM
    martinizing2
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sunny_dee View Post
    my kids are 16,14,12,it was the one at 16 who saw the figure going across her room,and she said it looked small,and ran very fast across her room floor,but when she went back to her room after screaming and running up the hall,when she went back down her room light was switched on, but that's all she can remember,

    i am very frightened to do it just incase anything happens to me,if i can get someone to sit with me i will do it and ask the questions thankyou very much for your help

    I can understand your fear. And I do not want you to do anything that you don't want to.

    Have you talked to your minister or priest (if you have one)?
    You might have your house blessed by a member of the clergy.
    This in many instances will stop the activity, but also carries the chance of increasing it. But with the help of someone like a priest who is familiar with these things it can be much less scary , and they will know if further steps are necessary, which usually they are not.

    How would you feel about this?
  • Mar 16, 2011, 03:05 PM
    sunny_dee
    I am just scared of increasing it,especially with my kids in the house
  • Mar 16, 2011, 03:15 PM
    martinizing2

    I understand.
    It may be best to leave it as it is as long as it something you can live with.

    Should things change , keep in mind what we talked about and don't hesitate to get back with us at any time.
    Someone will always be here.

    I wish you well.
  • Mar 16, 2011, 03:21 PM
    sunny_dee
    Thank you very much,if I change my mind I will contact you and let you know if anything happens :)
  • Mar 18, 2011, 03:32 PM
    hauntinghelper
    Anything new?
  • Mar 18, 2011, 04:03 PM
    sunny_dee
    Yes I was sitting in my kitchen last night about 11pm,and I hear like a ghostly howling sound 3 times,so I went to get my daughter to see if she could hear anything,and she was in the kitchen for about 10 minutes when it happened again,then I went to bed about 11.30pm,was in bed for an hour or so and I heard it again,but it wasn't an animal howl,it was very strange sound,I know it sounds stupid,I don't know if it means anything or not,I don't know by the noises it means anything,but when I heard the baby cry my nephew was in a coma,and after I heard it my mum called me and told me he had woke up,and today I got a call from my mum again to say my aunt was rushed into hospital and she is on a life support machine,and there is not much hope for her,we are only waiting on a call from the hospital,I know it sounds weird but it is strange when I hear it with my own ears something happens
  • Mar 18, 2011, 05:12 PM
    hauntinghelper
    I know you want to ignore this with the hopes it will go away. I know you fear for your family in making it worse. But quite frankly if you choose to do nothing it's going to do whatever it wants to do. It MAY go away... I can't say it's won't. Things might get worse... I can't promise either or. But this entity made the first move by manifesting and typically they don't just vanish like they were never there.

    I appreciate Martinizing2 going over your sound and video files for you as it's not something I am equipped to do. This type of investigation does aid in ruling out natural phenomena. He suggested that you contact a priest to come and pray for the home. He's right, it's usually going to do one of two things... get better or worse. I'll tell you WHY it can get worse. Most priests are not really trained in this type of spiritual warfare and them simply being there can agitate the entity. If having someone come to your home like this is something you want to look into, I suggest looking into a "full-gospel" type of church if there are any in your area. Let us know what you're thinking and like Martinizing2 said, there is always someone here to go through this with you.
  • Mar 18, 2011, 05:22 PM
    sunny_dee
    I will think about what your saying,and I let you know what I decide to do,thank you very much for your help,but can I ask one question,why has it pick me,is there a reason,me,the house I live in,my kids?
  • Mar 18, 2011, 05:54 PM
    cdad

    What kind of camera are you using because Im not really seeing nor hearing anything that may be outside of the norm ?
  • Mar 18, 2011, 05:57 PM
    sunny_dee
    it was taking from my mobile phone sony erricson experia 10x mini shot
  • Mar 18, 2011, 06:05 PM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sunny_dee View Post
    it was taking from my mobile phone sony erricson experia 10x mini shot

    In truth if that is the case then the extra sounds can be bleed over from the phone. Nothing paranormal about it. The phone is both a receiver and a transmitter. And moving around in a house can cause the signal to go into flux. That alone can cause the unit to experience a bleed over.

    Have you tried a tape recorder or digital voice recorder or is everything just the phone?
  • Mar 18, 2011, 06:07 PM
    sunny_dee
    No they were all took on my phone
  • Mar 18, 2011, 07:22 PM
    hauntinghelper
    Well to answer your question as to "why you/house/family"? That's not anything anybody can really answer at the drop of a hat online. The thing about it is that spirits are intelligent entities... they have personalities and a will. It very well could be something in your family... even generations past... or it simply picked you just because it wanted to. We don't have these answers. Those can possibly come with a thorough investigation/interview.
  • Mar 19, 2011, 03:10 AM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hauntinghelper View Post
    Well to answer your question as to "why you/house/family"? That's not anything anybody can really answer at the drop of a hat online. The thing about it is that spirits are intelligent entities...they have personalities and a will. It very well could be something in your family...even generations past...or it simply picked you just because it wanted to. We don't have these answers. Those can possibly come with a thorough investigation/interview.

    I don't completely agree with this. There are 2 types of hauntings.

    1) residual haunting. There is no interaction and its sort of plays through like a video.

    2) Intelegent haunting. That type can interact in some way and some ven respond to environment or questions.
  • Mar 19, 2011, 05:49 AM
    hauntinghelper
    It's just a different type of manifestation. There is still intelligence behind those "residuals".
  • Mar 19, 2011, 07:24 AM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hauntinghelper View Post
    It's just a different type of manifestation. There is still intelligence behind those "residuals".

    We don't even know if anything is really happening. Recordings from a phone unit aren't a reliable source. More evidence would point to something but phones aren't a good tool for it. Anything that has two way communication as part of the system is unreliable because of electronic bleed over.

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