You just verified what I have said all along. It is all theory and they might gather information but it does not prove anything. Good try anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by worthbeads
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You just verified what I have said all along. It is all theory and they might gather information but it does not prove anything. Good try anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by worthbeads
OMG!! HERE HERE HELPER!! Bravo My Man... Well Said... Point... and counter point!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesushelper76
But by using science, we can prove that the dinosaur extinction theory is possible. What legitimate evidence supports the theory that using a ouija board is possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesushelper76
The evidence, is there.. many have tried to tell you, but you can't seem to see that man... is... the evidence. What he tells you... is evidence... why are you so down on what your hearing.. from witnesses? Why do you insist that they are lying? That is basically what you are doing... calling everybody a liar, because they can't give you a template.. or a test tube, or a slide saying HERE! Believe me now?? Ever stop to think that Maybe... just Maybe... you can take your 'science'... and put it in their shoes? They have given you enuff reason... enufff pause. Why do you just keep throwing back the Prove it? How about this,, Disprove it. Got Prove it doesn't exist? Of Course you don't... Now... please. Explain That. ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by worthbeads
I keep asking for proof because I have yet to hear it.
I will only add to this great converstation is that of course there are tons of evidence, but sadly those that don't want to admit anything spiritual close their minds to anything of the spiirt. There are 100's of cases of people cured by prayer, cancer disappearing and more, but they dismiss this as something else.
And since the people being effected by the evil of the board, don't know they are effected intill they are cured and healed from this evil, it does not show up like a sign to see.
But far worst is the spirit and evil of science who used mere current human understanding to limit mans ability to understand.
Before the microscope, the world of the atom was unknown and would have not be accepted by science, since there was no "proof" it doesn't ot mean the atom was not there 200 years ago, but man just did not understand it. Thus with faith, evil, and spirits, it is obvous to anyone who has dealth with them, and have seen then first hand but someone who is to narrow minded to accept those who have saw things first hand as proof, they can merely live in their controlled world
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Alrite smartass, I asked a serious question and expect a serious answer... I don't need people like you telling me that my family and I have a neurological problem.. I don't know why you even bothered posting this seeing you don't even believe in it.. and you don't me anyway (thank God)... but anyway dude, I'll just blame it on your ignorance...Quote:
Originally Posted by Universal Truth
Well said :)Quote:
Originally Posted by paradoxlie
I'd like to draw attention to FR_chuck, by agreeing with some aspect of miraculous healing. However, lets look at the science behind it.
It is a well known fact that our attitude is affected by chemicals released inside our bodies. These chemicals are directly related to the immune response. For example you can see the article "Mood states associated with transitory physical symptoms among breast and ovarian cancer survivors." published in J Behav Med. 2006 Oct;29(5):461-75. Epub 2006 May 17.- this relates symptoms to the survivors attitude in response to a certain stimuls. It's a dull read, but a valid argument that does correlate what FR_Chuck is referring to as strange circumstances.
On a side note, as quasi promised, I have not purchased a Ouiji Board from the target located on Beach Blvd. here in Huntington beach, but I did bum one off a friend who swore to me it really worked. I proceeded to open the box when I got home from work, but the spirits failed to provide me with the intestinal fortitude to actually unpack it. Instead, I went to wendy's for some sweet dollar menu action, where I purchased my usual crispy chicken sandwich and some nuggets with BBQ sauce.
Upon returning home, I opened the box, yet again. The board resmebled a crapily laid out display of letters and numbers (yes, "crapily" is my technical term for it). I didn't bother with the instructions, seeing as how they are there just another mans opinion anyway. I placed my hand on the board and pondered the question I should ask.
I closed my eye's, tighter than a prison inmate during his first mishap with the soap. I then cleared my throat. I could feel my heart beating with a rythym so melodic I thought I was composing the percussion section of the LA phil harmonic. I began to utter, what I thought was the most important question in the world. I said "will there be a sequel to 'Snakes on a Plane'... (the... was for dramatic effect)
I waited, with my hands clamming up from the anticipation as they rested eagerly on the triangle thing, whose name I neglected to read in the discarded instruction manual. A few moments passed, with my eyes still closed. I swear I felt movement, but upon opening my eye's, my hands were in the same position they were before.
Nothing.
As with any good experiment, there must be a control. Keeping true to science, I proceeded to call my friend, who, as stated previously, swore this thing worked. I have arranged for him to come over tomorrow after work and do the same thing I did tonight, minus the trip to wendy's. I have offered to reimburse him for his troubles with beer that will be purchased from the bevmo down the street.
Until tomorrow, I can neither confirm, nor deny the claims presented by the community in this forum. Please keep in mind, that this is an actual account of my experience, your experience may have been perceived differently due to the differences in attitudes; and the differences in our bodies chemistry. I encourage you all to draw your own conclusions and not take mine as fact. This is an isolated experiment, and will be considered a case study. I will however report my findings, as truthfully as possible. Until tomorrow...
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Originally Posted by worthbeads
If you can't prove something... u can't disprove it either
But then part of it is that you did not expect or want it to work.
This is what divides faith, since in many things faith is a required aspect of all things spiritual
Science agrees that nothing is impossible, however certain things are highly improbable. It's the goal of science to prove things, not disprove them. If you can prove there is a paranormal activity involved in perception, then I will "believe" it. On the other hand, if you can't prove it, you should have the same integrity to admit that there is a possibility of it not being true.Quote:
Originally Posted by organizedcruelty
I never said I don't believe there is a chance a Ouiji board could contact spirits. I merely argue that there is no proof, and thus is subject to being a red herring. I also doubt an argument would hold up in court, if for example, a child purchased a board and was plagued by evil spirits.
Please heavenly father allow this blog to be a inspiration to you and allow the holy spirit to instruct this person in the proper way!
Nuff said sry! Had to do that!
Frank
“Everything which pertains to the human species, considered as a whole, belongs to the order of physical facts. The greater the number of individuals, the more does the influence of the individual will disappear, leaving predominance to a series of general facts dependent on causes by which society exists, and is preserved.” — Quetelet.
I thought this would be a relevant quote for the discussion.
True... true, but I didn't say ignore it... just that it isn't valid... sorta kind of.. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by paradoxlie
What the hell is with you! You make absolutely no sense! Throughout this whole post you haven't made much sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by paradoxlie
So lets assume that God creates a spiritual world, aside from the laws of physics and science. What then are we afraid of? If it is not subject to the laws which govern our existence, then we would not be able to feel, or observe any of their outbursts. We are limited by the physical universe, and thus our spirituality is subject to scientific scrutiny.
If we assume that spirits are subject to the laws created by the universe, then we should, by scientific definition, be able to quantify their presence in some measurabe way. Hearing stories of someone who knows someone who heard of things being true are bordering urban legends, and are not quantifiable.
My point being, that if you believe something to be true, you will not evaluate it unbiased. It is true that science is based on approximations and theories like evolution, but gravity is a theory as well. Do you deny it's existence, even if it was defined as a supernatural force? We can't prove gravity, but we can guess what it is based on science. In the same sense, we can't prove spirituality, but we can definitely give it the old college try.
Let me see, someone who knows someone,
I have seen first hand, objects on my desk and on my fireplace mantle, flying off ( not fallng from vibration) but flying 4 ft or more across the room. I have seen first hand, regular shadows of a persons shape cross the window on regular basis, ( would check at once and no one there)
There would be frequent smells of pipe smoke in a non smoking house, with all windows sealed. The inside motion detectors could not be used in the main area because something set them off.
And I have been present when a person with Rocky Mountain Spotted fever was being treated in the ER, elders of the church was praying and the spots just started to go away.
And I can go on with more. The idea that there is not a spirit world is not even a choice since I know it is real since I have been a personal witness to the activity. As have millions of others, it is just that science does not want to take this type of proof as valid.
The Ouija Board Mystery Solved
Mention the words Ouija Board and most people will freak out because they associate those words with ghosts and spirits.
So how does a Ouija Board work? What makes the pointer move? Involuntary unconscious movement. What is purely physiological, however, appears to some to be paranormal. In other words, if you believe this stuff and are trying to get the spirits to answer questions, and you ask a question that you already know the answer to, the odds are that your own hands will do the rest by spelling out your answer.
Try this simple blindfold experiment. If it was spirits, they would be able to guide your hands no matter whether you can see or not. But if it is you doing it unconsciously, then the blindfold will prevent you from getting an answer to your question, because you can't see the board!
This experiment has been carried out and it has been proven that if you can't see the board the message will be nonsense.
It's your own fear, and that of the others around the table, that sends the pointer spinning out of control - due to unconscious confusion coming from some of the players. If you can't or won't accept this explanation, than stay clear of this ADULT GAME because it will only freak you out.
I can tell already no one will change their mind. How about we reach an agreement. This is just a proposal. This would be an answer to the original question.
It is unlikely that your ouija board will do anything harmful to you, granted that it is a toy model and not necessarily authentic. Having a more authentic ouija board may change results.
It's somewhat of a compromise. Take it or leave.
Nah, Sorry whether it is homemade or so called authentic the idea and thought behind it is the same.
Not really a compromise. I do not take it or leave it. It is just there.
Joe
Well, it's all or nothing, so I guess it will have to be nothing. I stick with my opinion. No proof, no cigar.
Exactly it is just your opinion. I disagree about it being all or nothing. There is a between.
I was going to rate you but it is better I disagree this way. (;
Can not knock you for having a different opinion. (;
Maybe it's time for all of us to call it quits. It sounds like no one is going to convince anyone else to change their minds. Let's agree to disagree.
Even Mediums have stopped using them. They are boring. Use one every day for a month and you will soon discover that you keep getting the same answers over and over.
There are better ways to communicate with Spirit - that deeper part of you that some call the Higher-Self.
All said and done it is you doing it. You are scaring the life out of yourself. Try the blindfold experiment.
You can use it. It can be useful. It can be fun. But only if you are ready to accept the truth. That you are communicating with your own subconscious. And it is your own imagination that is frightening the life out of you.
Before getting into my experiment, I would like to formally apologize for any "rating" going on. I didn't know it was actually a rating system. I was under the impression you could just say whether you agree or disagree. My bad.
Anyway- Apparently, the board I received from my friend is broken. It's either that, or the Spirits didn't think Snakes on a Plane was worthy of there response. I guess we will have to wait and see if there will ever be a sequel. As for the Ouija board, I failed to get it to work, my friend failed to get it to work, but we have heard several accounts of the board "allegedly" working. I have tried to do the best I could, but I'm betting this experiment will not sway any opinions.
I can't really argue with FR_Chuck since he claims to have first person experience. I mean, I could, but it wouldn't do any good for the issue. I'm not trying to change someone's belief, I was trying to prove that using a Ouija board alone doesn't work. It doesn't.
I would like to reiterate the point made earlier and state "it's a game" and they are on sale at Target, in Huntington Beach, right now for $12.95. Ages "9 to adult" but not the elderly. The board does not endorse the elderly, sorry grandma, back to bingo for you.
What is the blindfold experiment?Quote:
Originally Posted by bluerose
It's when you use a ouija board when blindfolded.
Silly me.
Try this simple blindfold experiment. If it was spirits, they would be able to guide your hands no matter whether you can see or not. But if it is you doing it unconsciously, then the blindfold will prevent you from getting an answer to your question, because you can't see the board!
This experiment has been carried out and it has been proven that if you can't see the board the message will be nonsense.
Here's something else to think about -
Where are all the spirits that are supposed to have come through because of the Ouija Board? If all the stories were to be believed, we would be over run with spirits! Lol
If indeed you were meant to have contact with the spirits you would without your board authentic or not!
It amuses me the amount of posts and views your question has attracted, I myself am a believer and consider myself tuned in however do not exploit the gift I have been given by calling on it!
I too feel privileged to have extra-ordinary perception and awareness that allows me to completely trust my own instincts, intuition and inner knowledge and wisdom.
I believe this evolved for me in order to survive a very harsh childhood. I have always felt spiritually cared for, like someone was looking out for me.
Now someone may come along and say, “If someone was looking after you why did you have to go through everything that you did.” And my answer would be, “Because I had to go through all that in order to be where I am now.”
I was the oldest of five and yet I felt like I had grown up all alone and in pain. Today, I am so surrounded with family and kids. I feel blessed and wouldn't change a thing.
My epitaph will read - I have no complaints whatsoever.
I Pray everyone coming to this board in pain finds half the peace I have.
I don't know if you should play it alone, but I have played it with my sister and friend a few years ago. I was at my dads house in Las Vegas, NV and I believed his house to be haunted. (its a huge house) and every night I would hear something running up and down the stairs and across the hallways. Well anyway... my dad went out of town for the weekend for the rosebowl and we decided to play it. We were ages 15,16,and17. Well we played it and asked random fun questions like "who has a crush on so and so" and then we decided to test it if it was real and that none of us we're messing with it. So I wrote down a number on apiece of paper and folded it and held onto it. My sister and friend played it while I went in the other room. Well the Ouija board got it right ten times in a row. We would still ask it questions like "what was our great grandmothers middle name" after we got the answer, we'd call our mom and she told us what it was when we never met our great grandmother. Sure enough it was right. Right before we decided to put it away, we heard kind of like a knocking noise coming from inside the bedroom closet (we were in a bedroom). We screamed and decided to stop playing. Then we went downstairs to eat. Well there is a coat closet tucked away under the stairway and all of a sudden that closet door opened really fast slamming against the wall, then slammed shut really fast. Well I never thought I could run so fast, but we took off out that front door as fast as our legs could carry. Now since we are all older we tried to play it again and we couldn't get it to work, I don't know if it is cause we were in a different house or what. Maybe it was because of the age. I think that poltergiests (sp) are more common to younger people who are vulnerable and naïve. I grew up Catholic so my parents weren't too excited when they found out! Also when you are done using it make sure to put it face down, it kind of "turns it off" I read that somewhere I don't know where. Just becareful when you play it! You can open it to good or bad spirits. I have heard of so many people or houses becoming possessed after playing that thing. Careful!
A HA HA HA I love this guyQuote:
Originally Posted by Matt3046
OK well you aren't suppose to use one alone because if the board or spirit gets made things atrt happening and we all play with friends so your not alone... sometime your door will shut and lock things will be moved... or you could die just be very careful of the questions you ask and how you ask them Don't PLAY ALONEQuote:
Originally Posted by organizedcruelty
If you use a Ouija Board alone you can get possessed. I'm not sure why, but its been said that possessions have happened before.
Why is it safer to use the board with more people than just one? What does doing it with a partner do. What, don't the ghosts think they can take on 2 people?
Some of you are here to engage in senseless arguments that will prove nothing. All the person wants to know is why one can't use it when alone and how to protect themselves while using it.
So why don't some of you back off, and let other people answer his QUESTION.
Thank you.
Ok, take this from a Wiccan and someone who actively practiced magic for over 8 years. The Ouija board is a GAME, nothing more. Guess who it was made by, go on guess... The Parker Brothers. Same guys who made monopoly. You can't summon a demon, angel, spirit or ghost by using a board with numbers and letter and a little glass thingy. So you can use it alone if you want. The only reason that anything "supernatural" would happen is because your mind is telling you things will happen, that's all. It's a game, nothing more.
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