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I have no idea. I very much doubt anyone else does, either.
Have you seen such a figure in a movie or read about it in a book?
Yeah, we're going to have to ask for more details on this one. What happened?
No. I have not read any books like that, and I have not watched any movies like that. I have two small kids and I don't want them seeing things like that you know what I mean?
Well, I was walking out to my truck one day, and I looked down the driveway. I don't know why I did but something caught my attention. There standing about 6 yards from the back of my truck was this dark shadowy figure that had a head like a goat. It startled me. As I stood there looking at it, it started to move. I could see straight through it to the cars passing on the road behind the figure. As I watched, it took two steps, and ten like a flash it was gone. I thought I was going crazy until one night last week I was taking my niece home and she pointed it out to me again. That night we both seen it. Is my family being tormented for some reason?
I know I'm going to catch a lot of slack for this one... but I'm going to answer this assuming that what you saw has no natural explanation. Let's assume your details are accurate and true... which of course I have no way of verifying anyway. IF this is really a demonic spirit... it's most likely not there to torment you for a specific reason. But I do have to ask if anyone in or around your home has been involved in ANY occult activity? That would be reason number one. Let's just work this out together one step at a time.
This is your area of expertise, not mine but I must say I doubt you'll be cut ANY slack here.
Again, you have your opinions and beliefs and I have mine.
Well, that's why I'm not expecting any. I'm well aware of the different beliefs in this forum. Apart from someone saying she saw a bear by her truck, I don't know what other natural explanation someone is going to throw at her. I have heard of many cases of spirits manifesting in these types of forms. I believe it's more of a form of expression for them rather than their TRUE appearance.
First of all, I read the message that you wrote to JudyKayTee, and I am here to tell you I know what a bear looks like and it was no bear. I kind of took that offensive. I did not say that I saw a bear nest to my truck. This was a dark figure that was seen in the broad daylight there is nothing around my house to cast shadows, no there has not been anyone in or around my family or house hold that does ANY occult activity and has not done any. Please help me to figure out what this is. I am serious about this. If you cant, I will take my questions else where. I feel very strongly about this.
Please don't misunderstand what I said. I was saying that I don't know what sort of natural explanation SOMEONE would offer you except maybe it's a bear... and believe me, there are those who would suggest that. I believe you know the difference between something like what you saw and a bear. I was simply justifying my point by showing there were not any good natural explanations. Does that make better sense?
Have you seen this thing since you last posted? Is there anything else that seems off in or around your house? A presence or odd happenings? Or is it just randomly coming across this goat-headed being? I believe you are serious about this... as I posted before, I have heard of manifestations like this in several cases. I am serious about helping you. How serious are you about getting this thing out of your life?
I saw no insult by Hauntinghelper. In fact, I believe she was very understanding. I understood what she was saying.
She has asked you questions which you need to answer so she can assist you.
Haha... why am I a "she"?
There are many natural explinations for it. But as the questions get answered then we may find out. There are times when the mind plays tricks and something that is only remotely in appearance can be thought of as something else. We don't know at this point. But if this is a continuing thing then take a picture. That may resolve a lot of the mystery.
Yes, that would be a wonderful thing if she could snap a picture. Any hard evidence is worth 100x any description.
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Haha, because I thought you were. Obviously I was wrong.
It's all good. I had to read your reply like 3 times before I understood you were really referring to me. Haha.
Very! And yes. It is seen about once a week. In different areas. Its never in the sam place. Like I said, I am not the only one who has seen it. My niece also seen it. I first seen it for the very first time about 2 years ago. Yes I now understand what you were saying. Honestly though, I have NEVER seen a bear with a goat head. No, there is nothing else that is off around my house. The only odd happenings is that my kids are starting to see it. My husband has seen it, but no one else seems to except my family. Its always just this figure. It has a body like human but a head of a goat. Please just tell me what you think it is, and how I can get it to go away?
Don't take this the wrong way, I do not mean any harm by it, but if it was my mind playing tricks on me then why is other members of my family seeing this? Im not the only one that has seen it. My niece, my husband, and my kids have seen it. My husband said that he had seen it years ago, and then he had not seen it since until recently. I first saw it 2 years ago, and I didn't see it since until recently. It's not mind tricks. It is something else.
Its possible for people to feed off one another. But that would be more fear based. A type of suggestive state. Have you tried taking a picture of it? Does it interact with you or anyone else?
From your post I don't see an interaction. And it could be residual from long ago replaying itself. Or it can be a matter of timing tied to something natural. Like a rainbow. You have to be in the right spot to see it.
I believe you. Has it ever interacted in any way? Or does it just stand there?
Im sorry. I don't think it is that. I didn't reply because I had got off the net until now. I seen it in my home town of Indiana, then I see it at my house in Tennesse. I don't think its anything like what you are describing. It is not fear based. It is at random times. It makes itself known. So far it has stood there, walked away, and it has made some advances towards me, but it never quite comes all the way up to me. Im not sure how to describe it. No I have not tried to tak a picture yet, but I will start carrying a camera around so that when it appears I can try to get a picture.
Well It has moved toward me,but before it comes all the way up toward me it vanishes. Like I said to the other question, I am not sure how to describe it but it seems weird. It hs not tried to physically harm anyone in my family, but I don't like the idea of it hanging around like it does. It appears at random times. I never know when it is going to appear. It does seem to have my kids freaked out though. Should I try to interact with it? You know talk to it to find out what it wants? Or would it be best if I leave it alone?
At this point you could try telling it to just go away at a time when the kids aren't around. It changes the story dramatically since you mentioned it has appeared in 2 different States. A risidual haunting (those that play out over and over) would not be in other locations. Do you own any artifacts that may have a connection like something from another era? Possibly indian ?
What is it that you really want to get our of this forum? Do you just want to know what it is? Or do you want it to leave? Either way you're going to get several different answers from people... which is unfortunate.
Umm... No, not that I know of. The only thing that I have that even looks indian is a dream catcher that I have had since I was 9. That's the only think like that, that I have. If that is what is causing it, then why is it just happening now? Why didn't it appear when I was a little girl?
Well. I want to know what it is. I want to know what it wants. And I want to know why it is here, and how I can make it leave. Does this make since? I want to know what it is before I try to get rid of it you know.
I believe this is a demon... there could be several reasons it is in your life... I could only guess right now. It needs to be removed by someone who knows their authority in Jesus Christ. Those are the answers plain and simple.
Im sorry that I have not been on here for a few days. My kids and husband are sick and I'm just starting to get over a cold myself. That really worries me. Is there anything I can do myself to try and get rid of it or what all do you think I should do? Because I am completely clueless.
Yes, you can do it yourself... but not if you're going to remain clueless. God cannot bless or use ignorance. Hosea 4:6 "My people are destroyed from a lack of knowledge..." Every born again believer has the God given authority over evil to exorcise in your situation. It's going to come down to this...
1) Are you a born again Christian?
2) Do you have the spiritual strength/zeal to stand your ground against it?
3) Do you know the biblical principals of demonology?
If you're not 110% on all three of those answers I would not suggest you deal with it yourself, and if it gets out of hand you most likely should contact a QUALIFIED minister in the area of spiritual warfare.
If you're just looking for a quick and easy "out" that will result in your seeking help from any source that offers it... you're most likely going to end up in a worse situation. Most of these easy outs, for example, include the contacting of spiritists/mediums, new age charms, protection spells, etc, are simply another tool the devil uses to gain a foothold in someone's life. They can bring something else in just as easily as they can cause something else to go away. If you truly want this thing gone, do it the only correct and wholesome way there is... invite Jesus Christ into the situation. I'm here if you need me. I look forward to hearing more from you.
Thank you. I will most definitely give this a try.I will let you know how it goes. Thank you
Well, really, there is no "giving it a try"... you either KNOW it or you don't. If I can be up front about it... what are the answers to those three questions? In confronting something like that there can be no timidity about who you are in God. Do keep me posted on what happens and your concerns you have. I don't think I am far from your area if you even need help.
brieluv3,
I have been involved and around situations similar to yours for over thirty years.
I have seen enough to never discount anyone's word about things they see and experience.
In my opinion it was reckless and premature to call this a demon with no evidence.
You being witness to whatever it is I do not doubt.
But to say it is a demon with so little evidence is not wise.
Also, I would advise you , very very strongly , not to attempt dealing with this yourself.
That could turn into something so far beyond what you are prepared for it would be a great danger to you and your family. A worst case , yes.
Probability is not high, but too much to chance in my experience.
The name Hauntinghelper is appropriate here.
Your advice here if followed could be the invitation
for all hell to break loose and possibly make it much harder
to help the family.
For you to suggest this family try to do this on their own
is rash, egotistical rhetoric .
What are you thinking? Going out to help them.
With the advice you have given here I doubt you are ready.
And to the OP. If he does come out and asks for any money please make us aware of that.
I do not doubt you are dealing with something yet to be explained but before anybody tries to deal directly with anything , be sure of what it is.
Matters like this are serious and should be approached with great caution and all the knowledge you can gain. And I have seen no evidence of either one here.
What you describe sounds sinister. A mans body with the head of a goat is one of many symbols of Satan. That is historic fact.
And that you have seen it in two widely separated places , numerous times is enough to take notice and treat this matter with the seriousness and caution it calls for.
Again, I would not interact other than telling it to go, and do all you can to get pictures , video, or audio recording.
This may turn out not to be a serious threat or danger, but has the VERY EARLY SIGNS that there may be potential for great danger.
Again , I would advise that you not do anything directly until more is known.
Hauntinghelper. I do not like to counter anybody s advice and have done so only a very few times.
But you are potentially putting this family in harms way in order to accomplish the quick and dramatic end you see in the movies and you seem to keep preaching .
If you really believe it is that simple and easy , you are mistaken , and at someone else's peril.
You need to see a bigger picture than attack with the "wrath of God " right out of the gate.
This is offensive and dangerous.
I'm sorry, I disagree.
Am I in error because this thing could be a crazy bear instead of a demon? Because I give her a little more credit to her intelligence than that. I think most people are smarter than that.
Am I in error because this could be some other spirit? I ABSOLUTELY disagree with that. There are no other spirits out there. Demons or angels... it's an easy choice.
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What we have to try to keep in mind here is that most demons (not all) are seeking instant gratification and normally don't sit around and wait. In this case all the OP has spoken of is appearances and nothing more. We have no idea why its appearing nor do we know what it is at this point. You never know it could be an angel. And its coming in this form for a reason. If the OP is gawking at it and it causes a delay then that delay could be critical to the OP's future and be keeping them from harms way. We just don't know. I myself have had bad turned into good and didn't know about it until later when it was revealed. So at this point since no other form of contact has been made we can't classify what it is yet.
I do agree with most of that in that they usually do prefer instant gratification. I don't presume this thing is ONLY preoccupied with the OP and her family... it quite literally could just be checking in every now and again... waiting for something. Who knows? Time will tell. They are self willed entities and I could only guess at it's actions and true intentions.
I do understand about your concept of the angelic explanation... however it just doesn't sit right with me. I do believe angels work like this in our lives... but the manifestation is just curious. Obviously there has been no apparent "attack" in their lives... but I'm skeptical of it being harmless that is for sure.
Im not claiming it to be harmless or anything at this point. There isn't enough information to go on. The only thing we do know is that it has appeared in separate locations and seems to have appeared to more then one person. That's really about it in a nutshell until we get more information.Quote:
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I'm sorry, I disagree.
Am I in error because this thing could be a crazy bear instead of a demon? Because I give her a little more credit to her intelligence than that. I think most people are smarter than that.
Am I in error because this could be some other spirit? I ABSOLUTELY disagree with that. There are no other spirits out there. Demons or angels... it's an easy choice.
You were the one that brought the bear up in response to Cdad. And just because you can't see where it can be anything else does not verify anything except your limited view.
Because the bible does not say anything about spirits other than demons does not rule out that they exist.
Your error is in limiting yourself to only believe what is or isn't in the bible.
Encounters with paranormal entities happen daily all over the world and have been happening all through history.
Take your bible blinders off and see what is really going on all around us. To attribute all activity to demons is refusing to acknowledge facts.
Also , no one has questioned the OP s intelligence , credibility , or integrity. And for you to say you credit her with more intelligence than others is a cheap attempt to make you appear more than what you are. You have the flawed logic due to limiting yourself to what you are told is real instead of recognizing for yourself what is.
With your jumping to your demonic cause of all paranormal events , and telling people who are not aware of what it may involve , to act as if they understand the armor of God ,and go for it makes you a liability and dangerous to the people asking for help.
I'm sorry, I disagree entirely... and I think there is enough proof out there to show that "other spirits" are nothing more than deceptive.
Brie, any new sightings?
Only one as of recently. And to let you know, I have moved from pikeville to dayton and iy has followed us. I'm not sure what this is but I want to know as soon as possible.
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