Any other deists out there ?
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Any other deists out there ?
Why?
Why not ?
So I guess if you are a deist, you reject GodAlmighty and the Bible as being relevant?
I look at most of the religious post. I have never seen anyone of the Deist faith on here. But you never know some may come along.
I reject all so-called divinely inspired holy books, & some deists believe God is almighty & others don't. All I know is that God was powerful & wise enough to create the universe. Don't know if that qualifies as omnipotence or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Choux
Maybe. How can I tell if I am one?
If you believe that God created the universe but doesn't interact with it; if you reject holy books as inspired; if you reject the divinity of jesus, or the doctrine of the trinity, then you are probably a deist. There, are, however, some deists who believe that God may have interacted with the world at certain key points, such as the evolution of man. There are also christian deists, but they reject jesus' divinity, & look upon him as merely a great religious reformer & teacher. Christian deists reject the miraculous accounts of the bible, but they live by it's moral principles.Quote:
Originally Posted by ordinaryguy
As you are asking about deists,
I am curious to know what your beliefs are, not what other deists believe,but your personal belief...
Thanks
OK, probably not, then. I don't believe in belief, and I reject rejection.Quote:
Originally Posted by deist
Raises hand!!
P.S. to Bushg, you missed it, I have indicated I am a Deist on more than one occasion. Oh and deism isn't a "faith".
Basically a deist believes that some intelligent force created the universe and the physical laws that it operates under. Then that intelligence basically said go play. That intelligence does not interfere nor interact with its creations, though it may monitor them (probably for amusement).
Nor do I believe we are the only experiment created by this intelligence.
I believe this because the intracacy of the design of our universe, how things interact etc, would seem to require some intelligence of design. But I reject the idea of that intelligence looking at its creations as playthings to manipulate, try to get back on the right track or not. I reject the idea that such an intelligence would want to be prayed to and/or worshipped.
As you are a deist ScottG,Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottGem
I wonder how you view death and the afterlife?
Also what if everything that is going to occur or have occurred was already known to God? Does this make a difference ?Is that what you believe?or Not?
I don't!Quote:
Originally Posted by firmbeliever
No, that's not what I believe. I believe in free will. I believe that this intelligence set up a framework that controls the physical universe. But that every form of life has choices they can make within that framework.Quote:
Originally Posted by firmbeliever
For example, even a plant has choices as to where its roots will go. These choices may not be conscious, but there are choices nonetheless.
Scott In desim is there an afterlife?
Deism is not a religion. It's a belief in how the world was created. There is nothing to worship, no rules to live by, no dogma to practice. Deism differs from atheism in that deists believe there was an intelligence that created the universe. Whether that intelligence still exists or not, is up to the individual. But a deist does not believe that the intelligence is doing anything to influence what happens. Just that a set of physical laws like gravity, were created with the universe and we have to live according to them.
I believe God created the universe, & that was his one & only miracle. I don't believe God interacts with the world, I don't believe any of the world's holy books are divinely inspired, I don't believe in the miracles or resurrection of jesus, & I believe if God cares about anything, it's how well we treat each other, & not what we particularly believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by firmbeliever
Some deists believe in an afterlife & some don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottGem
I know the question was not to me, but let me answer also. Some deists believe in life after death, & some don't. I, personally, don't know if there is an afterlife or not. Antony Flew is a deist who doesn't believe in an afterlife.Quote:
Originally Posted by bushg
Does the "creator" necessarily mean God or are we talking about any type of creator, possibly even another race? I mean are you saying that something, we don't know what, created us, or is it always just "god".. Just curious, I have been struggling to find my following for years, and have settled in the Unitarian universalist realm, but am curious about deism... I have certain ideas on things, and have trouble fitting them in any place.
I can't speak for the OP, but I've been careful to refer to an "intelligence" or "intelligent force". I do not refer to this intelligence as God or a God (though deist comes form deity). Just an intelligence and power beyond our comprehension.Quote:
Originally Posted by alkalineangel
Thanks - that's what I was getting at... I have trouble getting clear answers using the term God without it meaning anymore than just a name.
For the Deist that believe in afterlife where is it at and what form does the body take? If one at all. Llike alakline. I have many beliefs that do not fit in with a particular group.
When it comes to deism all deists agree on a few basics, but other than that deists are as varied in their beliefs as everyone. As I said, some believe in life after death & some don't. Most deists don't believe that God intervenes in the world, but some believe God may have intervened at key points in time, such as the evolution of man. As for what form we might take in some afterlife, I have no idea, & as to where it would be, I also have no idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by bushg
Thank you both for answering my questions.
So basically,(From what I looked up on Wikipedia and from what Deist said) You reject anything to do with God,Except the creation of the world?
This is interesting. I've never heard about Deist(s?) before.
Most deists believe that God is not involved with the world. I'm surprised you've never heard of deism. Most of the founding fathers of US government were deists, masons, & unitarians. There were actually few christians among the founding fathers.Quote:
Originally Posted by fallen2grace
I don't believe another race could be the Creator. To speculate that another race are the Creators leaves unanswered the question, Who or what created the universe ? Surely not another race. My personal belief is this: The deity created the original singularity that pre-existed the big bang, & that everything else evolved after it exploded in the big bang. The galaxies, planets, & life evolved over billions of years. I believe this was the deity's intention, but he or It, let things evolve naturally without his further intervention.Quote:
Originally Posted by alkalineangel
Deist,
I asked a question related to this topic on another thread,
I removed it from there and put it here.
How do you conduct your life?Is there any basic guidelines you follow?
And about the afterlife, I know you said you did know for sure,but do you ever think of a judgement after death as a possibility?
Thanks
My personal guide is my conscience, & not some holy book. As for a judgment, there may be a judgment after death, but, I personally believe it will be based on what we did & not based on what we believed.Quote:
Originally Posted by firmbeliever
I guess I am a deist. I do believe in a causative God Force at the beginning of our universe but I don't believe that It meddled with things thereafter.
I do believe in reincarnation and that eventually we will gravitate back into the Oneness of God.
My beliefs are contained in: http://www.asearchfortruth.com/old
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