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Originally Posted by paraclete

of course I have those things how do you think I can waste my time here but looking forward there is more

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Agreed.

It doesn't mean they exist.

Those aren't your reward... those are your lot in life. There is a difference.

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Originally Posted by hauntinghelper

It doesn't mean they exist.

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Agreed, same with yours. :)

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Those aren't your reward...those are your lot in life. There is a difference.

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What is this cryptic "reward" you refer to then?

I do think that living well, having a good upbringing and treating others (and myself) well have given me the rewards I mentioned.

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Those aren't your reward...those are your lot in life. There is a difference.

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'Lot in life'. You make that sound like a curse. I would call having a good family,good life (as the person sees it) an accomplishment. Something to be proud of, yes in fact a reward.

This thread has been highjacked so many times. Because I subscribe to this thread, I am bound and determined to read a new post every time one comes up. What I do object to is reading a page full of scripture in order to prove a point.

I never said it was a curse. It simply means where/how we are in this life.

First of all this thread is about the paranormal and different religious beliefs... this type of talk is GOING to come up in this conversation. You don't like it? Unsubscribe from this thread. If Southamerica doesn't enjoy where HIS thread is going... he has every right to say so.

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If Southamerica doesn't enjoy where HIS thread is going...he has every right to say so.

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My comment and my opinion are my right on AMHD. If you don't like it tough, don't comment. If Southamerica doesn't like my opinion he can state that himself. SA has every right to post whatever he wants, I didn't say he has not. You are twisting around my comment.

Ms tickle

Does anyone have anything else to add to this that might get us back on track? Southamerica, do you view this situation any differently now? I'm curious what your take on it is?

Just going to add something. I'm pretty sure Southamerica is female. :)

Let's not argue about Gods and whose is the best, there's no way anyone can win that argument because everything is based on faith, not fact.

The fact is, there are many different religions, and each religion thinks they're right. You can believe that your God is the only one, you can believe that He's the only way for salvation, but others have just as much right to believe that their God, or lack thereof, are right as well. So please, don't tell someone that they're not living their lives properly, or to stop believing what they believe as it will get them nowhere. That's not your call, and you have no right to tell someone that their beliefs aren't as valid as yours.

Ah geez, I just got called a female in another post. My mistake.

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Ah geez, I just got called a female in another post. My mistake.

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No, alty said she thinks SA is female

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no, alty said she thinks SA is female

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SA is female.

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Just going to add something. I'm pretty sure Southamerica is female. :)

Let's not argue about Gods and whose is the best, there's no way anyone can win that argument because everything is based on faith, not fact.

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Hi Altenweg,

In the ancient world it was easy to decide whose God was the best. If my country invaded and defeated your country then it stood to reason that my God was stronger than your God. However, it only remained true until some other country defeated me then our God was out of favour.

But seriously... I think there is one man who can come close to answering Southamerica's original question. That person being the author of the Holographic Universe. As I am not good at summarizing books I wasn't looking forward to explaining his ideas. The I came across this website. Michael Talbot explains his theory on screen.

The Secret Sun: Synchronicity and the Holographic Universe (UPDATED)

The holographic model can account for just about all paranormal activity if, and it is a big if - the universe can be looked at in terms of a hologram. Naturally most scientists would reject any such idea and the whole idea could be dismissed as being total fantasy except that it has the backing of one of Einstein's associates David Bohm who later on became famous in the area of quantum physics .The other significant figure of the time was psychologist Karl Pribram. Talbot uses their ideas very constructively in his book.

If anyone has a spare half hour it is well worth the look and listen. Other than that the book is well written and not difficult to follow.


Regards


Tut

Oh, I know... I was just saying that misgendering seems to be going around or something.

Worth watching. Very interesting and at the very least a conversation piece. Thanks for the link.

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It happens all the time. Sometimes it's really hard to determine whether someone is a male or female just by their posts or username.

I've been called "he" so many times I finally decided to make it clear by my avatar. Even with my avatar I still get the occasional he. No biggie. I know I'm female, that's what counts. ;)

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Worth watching. Very interesting and at the very least a conversation piece. Thanks for the link.

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When I read the book about 10 years ago I though it was an interesting piece of science fiction. I mean, the universe being a hologram and that sort of stuff.

Apparently science fiction is again a poor cousin to reality. I read an article in a scientific journal or magazine somewhere that a scientist at FermiLab (a particle accelerator in the U.S) was intending to conduct some experiments to see if in fact the universe is a hologram. Mind boggling stuff indeed.

There exists the possibility that we are not as 3D or solid as we like to think we are. Those entities occupying the spiritual world (assuming there is one) would at least be aware of this.

Tut

Oh I have very little doubt that they are more aware of how universe is put together than we do.

Hello! I have been MIA the last couple days. My weekends are always busy :).

I know that bringing up religion AND ghosts in one question is bound to bring up a lot of discussion and tangents, and I'm okay with that. I do like reading about how different people view life/afterlife/God.

I've gathered that there isn't a lot in the folklore of the paranormal that would explain why a pious person would become possessed by a demon. It could be explained by a religious person's ability to believe in something unexplainable (e.g. God) versus an atheist/other who would find a more scientific explanation (psychology). It could be that a possessed religious person isn't genuine in their faith-and a demon would find a person with a professed opposition to Satan as a bigger target. Whatever is real and folklore, this thread has been interesting.

I would love to read more friendly conversation/debate about this and its tangents!

I am a female :-D

TUT, thanks for your link, I will look at it soon.