Well, thanks to Google AMHD has taken a nosedive. Have any of you read this article featuring our own CEO Ram?
Google search, algorithm, results, rank: Google's new search algorithm results in some unhappy websites - latimes.com
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Well, thanks to Google AMHD has taken a nosedive. Have any of you read this article featuring our own CEO Ram?
Google search, algorithm, results, rank: Google's new search algorithm results in some unhappy websites - latimes.com
Umm, I thought the admins said that traffic had increased.
Which one is lying?
Just goes to show what new "algorithms" do. :rolleyes:
The guests hits we are seeing have fallen, but the actual number of new registrations has risen, slightly.
Work that one out..
Other stats such as new posts and threads appear to be unaffected all around the normal amounts.
Oh dear, does that mean a higher percentage of people who visit are actually joining (even though the numbers are less overall)
That's just more ammo for the devs to keep the ruddy horrible GO skin.
Does the new thread activity have mostly to do with the fact that it is current members posting new threads?
So that means we are now only getting 45% of our traffic from Google.Quote:
Ram Prayaga, chief executive of Advizo, says his Woodland Hills company, which runs a question-and-answer service with 800,000 registered members at www. Askmehelpdesk.com, is one of those bystanders. Advizo had just hired its sixth employee when Google made the change to its algorithm, resulting in a 35% nose dive in visits from Google. Google used to send Ask Me Help Desk 80% of its traffic.
This quote from the article is very telling:
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Ram Prayaga, chief executive of Advizo, says his Woodland Hills company, which runs a question-and-answer service with 800,000 registered members at www. Askmehelpdesk.com, is one of those bystanders. Advizo had just hired its sixth employee when Google made the change to its algorithm, resulting in a 35% nose dive in visits from Google. Google used to send Ask Me Help Desk 80% of its traffic.
Prayaga said his company was determined to win back the traffic it lost. "To be considered a content farm by the world's most respected Internet organization seems very unfair," he said. "It's like being put on the do-not-fly list."
Sorry but I had to laugh. After seeing this in the article.
"Google won plaudits for promoting original research and analysis and banishing pages littered with second-rate content or overloaded with advertising."
What it translates to is that the new search algorithm doesn't like the "go" skin either and took its suggestion. I can hardly breath from laughing.
I am glad someone else had that thought (and laugh), too. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by califdadof3
Not sure about everything else, of course I am on here a lot less this law two months, but my Google ad hits are down about 40 percent again this month.
I couldn't open the link that J posted, but I get the idea from the quotes. Very interesting. Had a bit of a chuckle at that one too Dad.
The link is still working. You might try again and see if it works. It is an interesting article and it isn't just about AMHD but about the industry and its changes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aurora_Bell
Oops I had to turn off my pop up blocker. Interesting article.
Hello:Quote:
Ram Prayaga, chief executive of Advizo, says his Woodland Hills company, which runs a question-and-answer service with 800,000 registered members at www. Askmehelpdesk.com, is one of those bystanders.
I wonder if the number 800,000 had anything to do the change...
I've mentioned the Beverly Hills Young Democrats before. In terms of active members, it was really no bigger than any other club in the state. But we held a dance every month at the Beverly Hilton that was very popular around town, and we gave "members" a discounted admission. Considering our "members", we were the largest club in the state and wielded much more power than our actual numbers would have dictated.
As that relates to us, in truth, we're not a big website. It's just a few of us hangers on. Maybe we got busted by the new algorithm.
Excon
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It doesn't have a nice pic of Ram, but it does have his quotes.
In a way I am laughing at the thought of algorithms deciding the worth of a website. In another, I want to cry at the irony.
I think I may be a bit hysterical. :rolleyes:
I believe it was the "go" skin that caused a change in the way the site is seen to others. The bots searching the web look at specific things and if you gear a site to those (as mentioned in the article) then it may be a top site until discovered by humans. I remember a recent thread by yourself that was about not being seen in the search engines as you had been before. I also wonder how many true "active" members there are in this site. If you were to remove those not returning for 3 months and those with duplicate I.P. addresses what would the real numbers be ?Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
I would love to see statistics showing how long the average stay is after registration, how many questions/posts are made during that stay, how many newbies post only once and are never seen again, and how many newbies are still around after a year of posting. I bet the last number is fewer than 50.Quote:
Originally Posted by califdadof3
Hello again,
Most business's spend tons of $$$'s attracting new customers, but spend NOTHING to keep them. I have a feeling we could retain more. Has anybody ever ASKED the people who DON'T stick around, WHY?
excon
I would also like to see included but no real way of knowing. Just how many turn away because its too confusing to them when entering. There is a "bounce" figure but we have no way of knowing what it represents. But In my opinion the older generation that is still new to the net, those that could become regulers here are turning away because they don't like the looks of the place and find it too confusing. It seems the more recent posters of late seem to be much younger then before and most think its another chat speak site. I have yet to see in the faq's or anywhere that this isn't burger king and no you can't have it your way!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
I've tried, but they didn't stick around long enough to answer my question.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
I had suggested some months ago that, instead of having the GO skin, the experts and other regular members should improve their customer service skills. ("We're so glad you've chosen AMHD. Please stick around and help us out by answering some questions" -- except I wouldn't allow some of the newbies to dress themselves, much less answer a question.)
Hello again, Carol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Management, of course, could send out an email. Some sites contact me endlessly - some even if I've only been there once. I wonder if THIS management team does that - or anything close.
I don't think they listen to us. I didn't even know the guy's name before I read it in the article.
excon
That sounds like my soap opera. The TPTB are bringing in new YOUNG characters all the time ("Tad's long-lost son" or "Erika's daughter that she thought had been aborted") to attract YOUNG viewers, meanwhile messing up the soap's history and screwing with storylines. These new characters turn out to be a flash in the pan, soon outlive their storyline, have no other place in the soap, and then are fired, soon to be replaced by an ex-wife whom no one knew existed or the twin of Erika's supposedly aborted baby.Quote:
Originally Posted by califdadof3
These YOUNG viewers don't stick around, are like ships passing in the night, because they are busy with school, real-life relationships, children, rock climbing, and whatever else young people do. The older viewers are the faithful ones who have stuck with the soap for years and years, know the history, and love the established characters who give the soap its stability and continuity. But TPTB don't give a hoot about the older viewers; they want the young flesh who will mindlessly buy the products advertised (never mind maintaining the integrity of the soap).
Okay blond moment, but what exactly does algorithms mean?
Hmmm.. do I even comment here?? <snicker>Quote:
Originally Posted by Aurora_Bell
Algorithm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You better nopt be snickering at me mister. :p
So it's just a word used to define calcualting something?
Like how Google responds to "recipe" searches?
Hello again, Bella:Quote:
Originally Posted by Aurora_Bell
Yes, and if you write one like Google, you too can make a zillion dollars.
excon
Not exactly. It's a word to define sets of values that go into an equation to give a result.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aurora_Bell
One simple way of example is our rating system. A value is given for a red and for a green. The outcome of those numbers represents the results. The equation could be considered and algorithm.
In the case of Google the nubers are there just unseen. But they add up to a result that is suppose to add value to the specific search. So lets for example say something thought of as advertising gets a -10 rating number. And a positive comment or fact receives a +20. Then you have reduced it to numbers and things can be compared. So sites with a negative rating might be spam sites. And those with a positive rating might rank higher in the search engines for relevancy.
That is what the algorithm is for. To presort the sites. Google does have a paid staff to visit sites and make corrections but as you can imagine when talking the scale of the internet its beyond human hands with all the changes and updates going on.
I hope that explains it for you.
If not then you know there isn't anything wrong with a little more color in your life :rolleyes:
excuse me while I run and hide now :)
LOL, I hope you can run fast mister! Yes, actually that does explain it. A lot. Thank you Dad.
So who says you have to be dressed to come here anyway! I'm nakid right now and I don't think it really matters... does it? It's no ones bidness. And another thing, I can dress myself just fine... I just don't want to.
Where the heck did the greenie button go?Quote:
So who says you have to be dressed to come here anyway! I'm nakid right now and I don't think it really matters... does it? It's no ones bidness. And another thing, I can dress myself just fine... I just don't want to.
Bravo Mag.
I never get dressed unless I have to. That's the number one reason I haven't hooked up the web cam I got for Christmas.
Cool Baby. Mine is hooked up. I'm fixing to broadcast my but to the world!!
Only your butt? Maggy baby, I've been there and done that. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by magprob
Truth be told, the web cam isn't hooked up only because I don't know how.
Just ask Ben, the poor man spent an hour with me today, trying to get me back on line.
I'm surprised I even know what a webcam is!
Now that I've confirmed to all of AMHD that I am computer illiterate and just shocked to sh*t that I'm even here, I'm heading off to bed, because I really need some sleep.
Just in case you're wondering, yes, I also sleep in the nude. :)
Sweet dreams! :cool:
I go down to San Diego 3 or 4 times a year. When there, I always go to Blacks Beach and surf nude. Actually, back in 1972, I started nude surfing there. It caught on like wild fire. Where do you think they got the idea for the wind surfer boards. They saw me nude, on my board, and the next logical move was to put a sail on the hard wood mast. The rest is just extreme sports history.
You were surfing in 1972? I was still in diapers then! :)
You mean, like, you're famous?
WG, I finally get to correct your spelling. I believe the word you're looking for is infamous, not famous. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
I'll pick you up and we can drive to SD and watch magprob surf. I wonder if he has a spam board? How will we know who he is?
Of course I'm famous. Have you heard of HODAD, the greatest Southern Caifornia Surfer from the 50's and 60's? That's not me. I am known a GONAD, the greatest nekid surfer ever.
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