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  • Jun 20, 2010, 06:38 PM
    cdad
    Ready Aim Fire - aka the GUN thread
    Ok, Hope its OK to start this thread about gun discussion and practices. Debate or recommend or tell your favorite gun stories. Above all respect opinions and have fun!!
  • Jun 20, 2010, 06:53 PM
    Aurora_Bell

    Ok well I will repost seeing as I am a newb when it comes to gun owning. When I was 7 my father bought me a pellet gun, but it was too long for me, so he sawed off the butt of it. My friends used to make fun of me saying I shot it like a bazooka.

    I've always wanted a Smith and Wesson. They sure are pretty. Anyone have a recommendation for a fem newbie S&W?
  • Jun 20, 2010, 06:54 PM
    Aurora_Bell

    Woo Hoo I was actually the FIRST, for ONCE YESSSS!! What do I win?/
  • Jun 20, 2010, 06:55 PM
    cdad

    Lifetime supply of .PDF targets ;)


    Lol

    http://www.mytargets.com/
  • Jun 20, 2010, 06:58 PM
    Aurora_Bell

    .PDF targets? Remember, I'm new to this lol. I've only ever used beer bottles and tin cans. Oh and a dart board.

    Haha thanks for that Edit!
  • Jun 20, 2010, 06:59 PM
    Aurora_Bell

    Yup, Knot a blonde.
  • Jun 20, 2010, 06:59 PM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Aurora_Bell View Post
    Ok well I will repost seeing as I am a newb when it comes to gun owning. When I was 7 my father bought me a pellet gun, but it was too long for me, so he sawed off the butt of it. My friends used to make fun of me saying I shot it like a bazooka.

    I've always wanted a Smith and Wesson. They sure are pretty. Anyone have a recommendation for a fem newbie S&W?

    Well its mostly personal choice as to what your comfortable with. Your best bet if possible is to find a gun range near you that rents guns. So you can try before you buy. Have you thought of what you might like in a gun such as pistol or revolver ?
  • Jun 20, 2010, 07:01 PM
    Aurora_Bell

    Yea, nope haven't gone that far. I live very close to a gun range, never even thought about doing that. So what would be the benefit of a pistol to a revolver?
  • Jun 20, 2010, 07:04 PM
    cdad

    A revolver is the one with the cylinder that is round and after all the rounds are expelled you have to reload. A pistol is a semiauto type weapon and once you finish the rounds all you have to do is load another mag in it and your ready to go. A mag can hold anywhere from 7 or 8 rounds up to ones that can hold 15 or more and longer ones that hold up to 32 rounds. A typical cylinder is betweem 5 and 7 usually.
  • Jun 20, 2010, 07:06 PM
    Aurora_Bell

    Well I like those old fashioned S&W's so I think a pistol might be nice.
  • Jun 20, 2010, 07:07 PM
    Fr_Chuck
    Nothing but the best targets for you, as your prize.

    Credit for their sourse of high class targets http://zombieammo.com/zombiepress/20...oducing-jimmy/
  • Jun 20, 2010, 07:09 PM
    Aurora_Bell

    Oops I meant to say revolver. Sorry.

    ZOMBIES!! Those make the best targets!
  • Jun 20, 2010, 07:14 PM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Aurora_Bell View Post
    Oops I meant to say revolver. Sorry.

    ZOMBIES!!! Those make the best targets!

    I knew what you meant. Ok for starting you might want something on the small side so I would say 22lr, 22 magnum, 32 cal. 38 cal. anything in those sizes to get comfortable with would be good sizes for starting. Also if you have friends that own them get together with them and see if they can allow you to shoot what they have so you can get a feel for it. Mostly its indoor ranges that rent guns and pricing varies by area.
  • Jun 20, 2010, 07:15 PM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck View Post
    Nothing but the best targets for you, as your prize.

    credit for their sourse of high class targets Zombie Targets & Zombie Tshirts Archive Re-introducing Jimmy

    Love zombie stuff for the range.
  • Jun 20, 2010, 07:16 PM
    Aurora_Bell

    Well, actually we aren't so gun friendly here in Canada. My father has a lot of guns, but much bigger ones. Do you have to bring your own gun to a gun range, or is it like a shoe store, you can try them all on until you find one that fits?
  • Jun 20, 2010, 07:18 PM
    cdad

    Depends on the range. Most indoor ones that have a gun store connected have the guns there for you to rent. And if you buy one you get the rental money back. Also you need to buy the ammo for it. Those ranges that are open field or outside ranges you normally bring your own.
  • Jun 20, 2010, 07:22 PM
    Aurora_Bell

    Yea it's a retired military shooting range. So it is out side.

    These two here are quite nice:

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    http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/w...layErrorView_Y

    I do like the longer barrels.
  • Jun 20, 2010, 07:29 PM
    Fr_Chuck

    Now for storage, I have a new bedside safe, uses push buttom code so I can get into it within seconds. Bolts right under a night stand ( or on top) My one there is the only loaded gun in the home for defense ( and the one I normally carry) All the rest are in a locked cabinet also, but unloaded with the bullets all stored in fire proof safe.
  • Jun 20, 2010, 07:30 PM
    cdad

    Those are nice. I like the single/double action. Double action means you pull the trigger back and it pulls the "hammer" back at the same time. Single action means you can pull back the hammer and your ready to fire from there.
  • Jun 20, 2010, 07:32 PM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck View Post
    now for storage, I have a new bedside safe, uses push buttom code so I can get into it within seconds. Bolts right under a night stand ( or on top) My one there is the only loaded gun in the home for defense ( and the one I normally carry) All the rest are in a locked cabinet also, but unloaded with the bullets all stored in fire proof safe.

    Nice set up. And can't stress enough about gun safety and operation. What caliber do you carry and have for home defense?
  • Jun 20, 2010, 07:40 PM
    Fr_Chuck

    I went for the 380, it was my last back up weapon, the light weight one that fits into the protective vest hoster,

    I would normally have used a 9 mm or a 40 for home defense, but it is a matter of being used to one weapon, I still carry the 380 almost all the time, practice with it, I also keep a small belt of my 12 gauge shells in the safe, so it is a matter of using the 380, till I break the glass on the shotgun display, load it and have it to use. But I do have my bullets specially hand loaded for max stop that I can get from it.

    But with that, I have a high profile security system, window and glass alarms, door and motion alarms, all zoned for day or night or away. It is a moitored system that has live voice connection to the home. It is even wireless so they can't cut wires to get past it.

    What I have found in most of the local shoot outs, they happen at less than 12 feet, most miss 80 plus percent of their shots. So it is having a weapon you are used to, one you shoot round after round out of, so you feel good about using.

    I even practice without my eye glasses, and low light to simulate night shotting getting out of bed.
  • Jun 20, 2010, 07:40 PM
    Aurora_Bell

    Did they both have the double/single action?

    I agree, gun safety is so important. I would never want to be the cause of someone un intentionally killing or hurting themselves. Especially if it was my kid. That's actually my biggest fear of having a gun in my home. My father has had guns in their homes, well forever. He was an under waters weapons tech, he has all kinds of neat 'toys'. He is actually ecstatic that I am starting to show interest in this.
  • Jun 20, 2010, 07:45 PM
    cdad

    Not sure if they both did because the first link was messed up for me. Its posted as a bad link.
  • Jun 20, 2010, 07:48 PM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Aurora_Bell View Post
    Did they both have the double/single action?

    I agree, gun safety is so important. I would never want to be the cause of someone un intentionally killing or hurting them selves. Especially if it was my kid. That's actually my biggest fear of having a gun in my home. My father has had guns in their homes, well forever. He was an under waters weapons tech, he has all kinds of neat 'toys'. He is actually ecstatic that I am starting to show interest in this.

    I remember when each of my brother turned 12 my Dad would buy them a 22 rifle. We never touched them. Dad showed them how to clean them and take care of them. That was back when boys could go hunting in the mountains or with a grownup. My husband likes automatics. I like my little 38 lady smith and I''m a darn good shot.

    Dad believed in equality when it came to teaching us girls about guns. We knew the rules of gun safety. And we followed them.
  • Jun 20, 2010, 07:51 PM
    Aurora_Bell

    Which one were you able to look at? The longer barreled one? That's the one I liked the best.

    Kit, I think it's great that your dad showed you all how to shoot. It's kind of a rush eh?

    Chuck, have you guys always had guns in the house, and does your wife own or shoot? Do you guys go to a gun range?
  • Jun 20, 2010, 08:10 PM
    Fr_Chuck

    Grew up with guns, had them in the house growing up, ( no locks, no cabinets we just knew better, heck at high school, most of us had guns in the Pick ups in the gun racks sitting in the school parking lots. ( grew up very country)

    But yes, I have had small armory at the home in years past, everything from muzzle loaders, to some antique collector auto weapons, to assault weapons.

    Toni hates guns, so except for self defense, some hunting weapons and those I have for when the world goes to ruin in 2012. I sold and got rid of most of them shortly after we got married.

    The over board security on the house and guns is for her benefit. She does carry mace and has started martial arts.
    Of course I am ( or was) a master at martial arts, and had to use them a few times with her around, and she understands the need for self defense.
  • Jun 20, 2010, 08:13 PM
    Aurora_Bell

    Wow, umm do you guys live in a bad area or something? Why for her? If you don't mind me asking.
  • Jun 20, 2010, 08:17 PM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck View Post
    Grew up with guns, had them in the house growing up, ( no locks, no cabinets we just knew better, heck at high school, most of us had guns in the Pick ups in the gun racks sitting in the school parking lots. ( grew up very country)

    But yes, I have had small armory at the home in years past, everything from muzzle loaders, to some antique collector auto weapons, to assualt weapons.

    Toni hates guns, so except for self defense, some hunting weapons and those I have for when the world goes to ruin in 2012. I sold and got rid of most of them shortly after we got married.

    The over board security on the house and guns is for her benifit. She does carry mace and has started martial arts.
    Of course I am ( or was) a master at martial arts, and had to use them a few times with her around, and she understands the need for self defense.

    Wow FC.. that's great. My husband has a bicentenneial muzzle loading rifle and a pistol. I'm too impatient with those. Mom kept a Baretta in the house after Dad passed away and she knew how to use it. I wonder what is the best hand gun you can buy, that is also easy to handle. I had a two shot derringer... gave it to my oldest daughter.. My husband said "might as well throw a rock at somebody". That derringer fit right into the palm of my hand.
  • Jun 20, 2010, 08:19 PM
    Aurora_Bell

    Do you guys in America have to license and register your guns?
  • Jun 20, 2010, 08:30 PM
    Fr_Chuck

    I am in Georgia , I have to have a license to carry mine ( since I am no longer a law enforcement officer) you have to have a background check to buy one, ( unless you have a permit to carry). So no permit to buy or own one. Or have it on your own property.

    The which is best is sort of a "ford" vs "chevy" issue, I love Glocks, carried one for years and years shooting over 1000 rounds a month and never a single jam. ( keep clean and repalced spring often) Back in the "Federal" days I called a SW revolver which is a great fun gun, but not enough available bullets per load, and much slower reload time.

    Well for 5 years Toni and I lived in the middle of the "hood" the worst part of Atlanta, I caught more felons within my own block on my days off, there were local jokes from the street officers. We had hookers on the corner a few houses up, some male prositutes, had homeless all over, they even stole christmas lights off my bushes in the winter.

    Some silly people had the idea to rob me every once in a while. One day, sitting on the porch, someone visiting Toni had left her purse in her car, someone walking down the street, broke the window and grabbed the purse, I was sitting right there on the porch by the car. He for some reason thought he was going to stop me, he hit me ( I guess as hard as he could) on the forehead, almost between the eyes. I just looked at him, That look in his eyes, the fear of god, like I am going to die now, Toni still laughs about it.

    Well lets just say, we discussed his hitting me and breaking the window for a while,

    Now the bad thing, Toni called the police but they were too busy to come, yep, too busy for a simple breaking into a car.
    I am off duty and not within my jurisdiction at the time, so I can't even legally arrest him.

    So we discussed his actions a little more, and he was ready to repent to Jesus at the end of our discussion. So I let him go
    The police did finally come about a hour latter to see what had happened
  • Jun 20, 2010, 08:31 PM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Aurora_Bell View Post
    Do you guys in America have to license and register your guns?






    If you carry a gun you have to have a permit. When you buy it, it is registered. A license and a permit is the same thing. You also have to take a gun safety course in order to get a permit.
  • Jun 20, 2010, 08:46 PM
    slapshot_oi
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Aurora_Bell View Post
    Do you guys in America have to license and register your guns?

    It depends on on the state. In New Hampshire, if you're a resident, then you can walk into a gun store and buy a gun; no license, no background check, no firearm registration. Private sales between known parties is legal, too. To carry a concealed weapon and transport it in your car, you need to have a license to carry. Otherwise, you can carry it openly like a cowboy.

    The license to carry is just an application to your local police department with a sentence saying why you want it. If you weren't convicted of a violent felony recently and pay a fee, you'll most likely get it.
  • Jun 20, 2010, 09:19 PM
    Aurora_Bell

    Wowsers. So is it true on 9-11 (the documentary) some places like in Texas, hand out guns at the local banks with new accounts?
  • Jun 20, 2010, 09:20 PM
    J_9
    I have to admit, I haven't read the entire thread...

    What kind of gun to you want? I have probably shot it.
  • Jun 20, 2010, 09:24 PM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by J_9 View Post
    I have to admit, I haven't read the entire thread....

    What kind of gun to you want? I have probably shot it.




    A .357 magnum.
  • Jun 20, 2010, 09:28 PM
    Aurora_Bell

    I want a smith and Wesson. A revolver with a longer barrel. That's as far as I got.
  • Jun 20, 2010, 09:31 PM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Aurora_Bell View Post
    I want a smith and Wesson. A revolver with a longer barrel. That's as far as I got.





    Clint Eastwood comes to mind when I think of a .44 magnum.. He's 200 years old and still a hunk.:D
  • Jun 20, 2010, 09:39 PM
    Aurora_Bell

    Agree!
  • Jun 20, 2010, 09:47 PM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Aurora_Bell View Post
    Agree!







    I like guns... we have a few. My kids know how to shoot and so do two of the grandsons. Course they have to go to a gun safety class to get a license to deer hunt. I could never kill a deer.
  • Jun 21, 2010, 12:17 AM
    shazamataz

    V has to get his gun license for his new job... All I can picture is him running around buildings pretending to be an army man or something.
    He's already excited about getting a baton (aka whacking stick) while he waits for his license :rolleyes:

    Friend of mine used to go out hunting Roo and Possum every weekend. Dogs loved it.

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