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  • Feb 6, 2010, 06:00 PM
    Alty
    Puppies as prizes in pageants :(
    I'm very upset.

    I've started a thread before about the pageant shows on TV for little girls. I don't agree with pageants for children. To me it instils the belief that they're only as special as their looks that being pretty is the most important thing. But that's not the reason for this thread.

    I was watching it today, because there was nothing else on and I was shocked when they announced that the winners of that competition would win a puppy! Yes, a puppy! No legitimate breeder would ever sell puppies to someone that would give them away as a prize to a competition.

    Yes the kids want the puppy. Of course they do, the puppies are adorable. One of the mothers on the show was interviewed (as they usually do on the show) and all she had to say was "Lord help me if she wins the puppy".

    So, these puppies are being given away as prizes to people that aren't ready for a puppy, probably don't want a puppy and aren't necessarily willing to care for a puppy.

    Do they have a kennel at home, bowls, food, money for vaccines and vet care? Why would they? They weren't looking to purchase a puppy, it's a prize!

    I'm shocked about this. I can't just let this go. I will be looking into contacting the producers of the show and expressing my concern. Hopefully this can get me contact information to the pageant people that make the decisions to do this. I'll see what happens.

    Is anyone else upset about this? Am I overreacting? :mad:
  • Feb 6, 2010, 06:05 PM
    cdad

    Its not over reacting. But Im sure that they had announced it ahead of time to the contestants. The same problem goes on every year at easter and people give rabbits as pets. To me a pet is personal and not something to be given away as a prize.
  • Feb 6, 2010, 06:12 PM
    artlady

    Just when you think the pageants have reached a new low ,they find a new way to be stupid.

    Did you ever see that little girl who is always on with her dog that she throws around ?

    These parents should be brought to task for what they do!

    I detest everything about it! Now I have another to add to the list of many why I think this is wrong ,just wrong on SO many levels.
  • Feb 6, 2010, 06:32 PM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by califdadof3 View Post
    Its not over reacting. But Im sure that they had announced it ahead of time to the contestants. The same problem goes on every year at easter and people give rabbits as pets. To me a pet is personal and not something to be given away as a prize.

    Sadly that's why so many rabbits end up in the shelter, because they were either gifts, prizes or an impulse buy because "aw, it's soooo cute!"

    They're complex pets. They need specialized care. I have yet to meet a pet store employee that knows diddly squat about rabbits. My 7 year old knows more then they do.

    A puppy is even more work then a bunny. The cost of caring for a puppy is also a lot higher. The vet bills alone in the first year can be astronomical. It's unfair to give these living breathing animals away as prizes.

    Give away a stuffed animal. No care required and if the stuffing gets ripped out you just shove it back in, sew it up and voilą, nobody dies. ;)
  • Feb 6, 2010, 06:34 PM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by artlady View Post
    Just when you think the pageants have reached a new low ,they find a new way to be stupid.

    Did you ever see that little girl who is always on with her dog that she throws around ?

    These parents should be brought to task for what they do!

    I detest everything about it! Now I have another to add to the list of many why I think this is wrong ,just wrong on SO many levels.

    I haven't seen the dog throwing girl. That would just make me that much more angry and trust me, I'm plenty angry already.

    I would be willing to wager that the majority of puppies given away as prizes will end up in shelters.

    Just another level of concern to add to all the rest.

    When will people realize?
  • Feb 6, 2010, 06:34 PM
    cdad

    Rabbits aren't that hard you just have to watch their diets. And you can take them for a walk on a leash too :)
  • Feb 6, 2010, 06:39 PM
    nikosmom

    Plus, these puppies are being given to people who obviously have very busy lives being part of the pageant circuit and all.
  • Feb 6, 2010, 06:47 PM
    artlady
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Altenweg View Post
    I haven't seen the dog throwing girl. That would just make me that much more angry and trust me, I'm plenty angry already.

    I would be willing to wager that the majority of puppies given away as prizes will end up in shelters.

    Just another level of concern to add to all the rest.

    When will people realize?

    Hopefully we can stretch the advocates of animals even further to help them to force a new legislation.

    I do believe they are overworked trying to fight this horrible ignorance and I do think we will get better and make the penalties more severe.

    When we hit people in their pocketbook,that's when they pay attention!
  • Feb 6, 2010, 06:52 PM
    artlady
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nikosmom View Post
    Plus, these puppies are being given to people who obviously have very busy lives being part of the pageant circuit and all.

    And they are part of the show.
    Thank you Paris Hilton for that *dog as fashion* statement .Ugh!
    It's a crazy world when you think that these poor kids are going to do well with the mindset they are being taught. Tsk,Tsk!
  • Feb 6, 2010, 06:56 PM
    Catsmine

    Alty, don't go any further with the pageant people. Get their contact info, maybe even misdirect them with Sydney, then forward the contact info to the SPCA. If this doesn't qualify as "cruelty to animals" I need to find out what language I speak.
  • Feb 6, 2010, 06:59 PM
    thisisit

    If you contact the producers of the pageant, ask if they have sponsers and you can contact them too.
  • Feb 6, 2010, 06:59 PM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by califdadof3 View Post
    Rabbits arent that hard you just have to watch thier diets. And you can take them for a walk on a leash too :)

    They aren't hard if you know their diets and their other needs. For instance, did you know that most vets have not one clue how to care for a rabbit. When I was looking for a vet to neuter Cotton one vet told me to give no food and water 24 hours before the operation. This is done with most animals because they can often vomit after surgery and if no one is there, they can choke on their own vomit.

    Well, rabbits don't have a gag reflex. They physically cannot vomit. When I told the vet this his response was "hmm, didn't know that". What? You're a vet! :(

    Also, did you know that rabbits teeth grow constantly? If they don't have something in their cages, or diet, to grind down their teeth then it needs to be done by a vet.

    Do you know the difference between a rabbit and a hare? Most people don't. Heck, most people think that rabbits are rodents. They're not, they're lagomorphs.

    Don't get me started. I could talk all day about rabbits. ;)
  • Feb 6, 2010, 07:01 PM
    Alty

    All of you have given me great suggestions. Trust me, I will get to the bottom of this and I won't stop until I get some answers or at least create awareness that this is going on.

    The only ones that will suffer are the puppies. The kids, well, that's another post. Don't even get me started about how I feel about child pageants. :(

    Time to make dinner. I'll be back. :)
  • Feb 6, 2010, 07:02 PM
    friend4u178
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Altenweg View Post



    Don't get me started. I could talk all day about rabbits. ;)

    They taste good too :D
  • Feb 6, 2010, 07:02 PM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by friend4u178 View Post
    They taste good too :D

    You are definitely staying in a hotel if you ever come to visit me! ;)
  • Feb 6, 2010, 07:07 PM
    artlady
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by thisisit View Post
    If you contact the producers of the pageant, ask if they have sponsers and you can contact them too.

    Great idea and PITA as well!
  • Feb 6, 2010, 07:26 PM
    nikosmom
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by friend4u178 View Post
    They taste good too :D


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by artlady View Post
    Great idea and PITA as well!

    Artsy, do you eat wabbits too? Or maybe you meant PETA... :p
  • Feb 6, 2010, 07:29 PM
    shazamataz

    My dogs are my family... to me that is like entering a competition to win a brother or sister.

    Dogs and puppies are not possessions or prizes, they are living, breathing, feeling creatures.

    I have been getting slammed a lot lately because I show dogs and they are nothing more than money makers for us... that couldn't be farther from the truth but it's impossible to make some people see that.
    I mean, I pay for the dog, I have to feed it, vet it, pay entry fee for shows, register it with the local council yearly, pay my own membership to the canine council. If I happened to breed it MIGHT recoup some of the costs if the dog has a large litter but when you think about the fact that the dog cost nearly $2000 then you have to pay a $1000 stud fee and you have been feeding and vetting the dog for 2+ years, AND having to pay for the puppies food and vet care...

    Bleck, I'm babbling now but it gets me angry.
  • Feb 6, 2010, 07:54 PM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nikosmom View Post
    Artsy, do you eat wabbits too? Or maybe you meant PETA... :p

    Lol. I was thinking the same thing. Pita is a bread.
  • Feb 6, 2010, 08:02 PM
    Catsmine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nikosmom View Post
    Artsy, do you eat wabbits too? Or maybe you meant PETA... :p

    Wabbit on Pita, with some grilled onions and peppers. Maybe Baclava for dessert. Yum.
  • Feb 6, 2010, 08:14 PM
    Alty
    1 Attachment(s)

    Stop trying to eat my rabbits!

    Could you really eat this?

    Attachment 28951

    That's my baby Cotton. He weighs around 1 pound soaking wet. Not worth skinning and cooking him for a few bites.

    Also, he's litter box trained and tame as can be. He's just a big sucky bunny, loves to cuddle, loves to sit on my lap and watch TV.

    Tell me, could you really eat him? Could you? Say it isn't so! :eek:
  • Feb 6, 2010, 08:16 PM
    thisisit

    I could never eat such a cute little bunny rabbit
  • Feb 6, 2010, 08:17 PM
    friend4u178

    Yummy... anyone got some gravy ;)
  • Feb 6, 2010, 08:18 PM
    Catsmine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Altenweg View Post
    Stop trying to eat my rabbits!

    Could you really eat this?

    Attachment 28951

    That's my baby Cotton. He weighs around 1 pound soaking wet. Not worth skinning and cooking him for a few bites.

    Also, he's litter box trained and tame as can be. He's just a big sucky bunny, loves to cuddle, loves to sit on my lap and watch TV.

    Tell me, could you really eat him? Could you? Say it isn't so! :eek:

    Which paw do you squeeze to make it squeak?
  • Feb 6, 2010, 08:21 PM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by thisisit View Post
    I could never eat such a cute little bunny rabbit

    I made need you to hide him for me, the two mean boys want to make him a side dish! :eek: ;)

    Now boys, this thread is about puppies. You guys are bad getting me started on rabbits. Who was it that did that anyway? :rolleyes:

    Also, M, everyone knows that gravy isn't good on rabbit. ;)
  • Feb 6, 2010, 08:23 PM
    friend4u178
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Altenweg View Post

    Also, M, everyone knows that gravy isn't good on rabbit. ;)

    And you know this because you ate rabbit when... ;)
  • Feb 6, 2010, 08:24 PM
    artlady
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Altenweg View Post
    I made need you to hide him for me, the two mean boys want to make him a side dish! :eek: ;)

    Now boys, this thread is about puppies. You guys are bad getting me started on rabbits. Who was it that did that anyway? :rolleyes:

    Also, M, everyone knows that gravy isn't good on rabbit. ;)

    No gravy on rabbit :eek:
    You guys crack me up! So Crazy :D
  • Feb 6, 2010, 08:24 PM
    Catsmine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Altenweg View Post
    I made need you to hide him for me, the two mean boys want to make him a side dish! :eek: ;)

    Now boys, this thread is about puppies. You guys are bad getting me started on rabbits. Who was it that did that anyway? :rolleyes:

    Also, M, everyone knows that gravy isn't good on rabbit. ;)

    Gravy is good on the potatoes and carrots and onions in the stew.
  • Feb 6, 2010, 08:27 PM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Altenweg View Post
    I made need you to hide him for me, the two mean boys want to make him a side dish! :eek: ;)

    Now boys, this thread is about puppies. You guys are bad getting me started on rabbits. Who was it that did that anyway? :rolleyes:

    Also, M, everyone knows that gravy isn't good on rabbit. ;)

    I did. I started it. Hehe. Does your bunny binki too ?
  • Feb 6, 2010, 08:27 PM
    nikosmom
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Altenweg View Post
    Also, M, everyone knows that gravy isn't good on rabbit. ;)

    I don't know Alty, my dad used to eat it with gravy sometimes... :rolleyes:
  • Feb 6, 2010, 08:29 PM
    friend4u178
    1 Attachment(s)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nikosmom View Post
    I dunno Alty, my dad used to eat it with gravy sometimes... :rolleyes:

    There pretty good raw as well...




    Attachment 28952
  • Feb 6, 2010, 08:34 PM
    Alty
    1 Attachment(s)
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by califdadof3 View Post
    I did. I started it. hehe. Does your bunny binki too ?

    Binky dear. :)

    I have what I call my "bunny binky room:

    Attachment 28953

    They spend a few hours a day hopping around, nibbling on the carpet (which is theirs) and binkying around.

    Yes, they. I have four bunnies. The reason they have the bunny binky room is because of my 3 dogs, a lab, border collie and beagle. Two hunters and one herder. ;)
  • Feb 6, 2010, 08:36 PM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nikosmom View Post
    I dunno Alty, my dad used to eat it with gravy sometimes... :rolleyes:

    Don't give them ideas NM! :eek:

    M, I accidentally had rabbit once. My grandmother told me it was chicken. What's worse, it was a rabbit that they had for a year and I'd play with it every Sunday when we went over for coffee and cake.

    My grandpa told me he ran away. He wasn't fast enough. :(
  • Feb 6, 2010, 08:37 PM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by friend4u178 View Post
    There pretty good raw as well...........................




    Attachment 28952

    That's just wrong! Especially because I have a black lab! :(

    Bad M. Bad boy! No rabbit for you! ;)
  • Feb 6, 2010, 08:39 PM
    nikosmom
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Altenweg View Post
    M, I accidentally had rabbit once. My grandmother told me it was chicken. What's worse, it was a rabbit that they had for a year and I'd play with it every Sunday when we went over for coffee and cake.

    So guilt aside... how did it taste?
  • Feb 6, 2010, 08:40 PM
    friend4u178
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nikosmom View Post
    So guilt aside... how did it taste?

    Ha Ha... yeah good question NM
  • Feb 6, 2010, 08:40 PM
    nikosmom
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Altenweg View Post
    Bad M. Bad boy! No rabbit for you! ;)

    So many things I could say here but alas, it's not the proper thread... ;)
  • Feb 6, 2010, 08:42 PM
    Catsmine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nikosmom View Post
    So guilt aside... how did it taste?

    Everything tastes like chicken, except me.

    Oops :eek::eek: WT
  • Feb 6, 2010, 08:45 PM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nikosmom View Post
    So guilt aside... how did it taste?

    Like rotten chicken!

    I kept asking my grandma "are you sure this is chicken? It doesn't taste right".

    Both sets of grandparents kept rabbits for food. My grandma in Germany used to send me the furs. :(
  • Feb 6, 2010, 08:46 PM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Catsmine View Post
    Everything tastes like chicken, except me.

    Oops :eek::eek: WT

    :eek:

    WT, WT, abort mission! Abort! Abort! :eek:

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