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  • Dec 14, 2005, 08:59 AM
    tyieka
    Leaving the Board
    Due to some people on here my replies will be given to those who wish to ask me a question via an email address, My time is given to help those who genuinley need advise and help and not those who want to waste time with petty comment on others answers. Sorry for any inconvienience this may cause but I have no time for time wasters.
  • Dec 14, 2005, 08:26 PM
    orange
    Sorry you've had a bad experience on the boards. I've found that most people who respond to my posts are quite polite and nice.
  • Dec 14, 2005, 08:37 PM
    Fr_Chuck
    Message
    Sadly the true help is often not the person asking the question but the dozens or 100's that may read the post and answer over time.

    Having done sites like this ( not this specific site) for almost 10 years, you will find good and bad in all.

    But again this type of site is not for everyone.

    Only you can tell if you have the personality for this type of site.
    And even if you do, after a few months or a couple of years, you often see the same type of question ( and sometimes the same question and the same person asking) again in the future,or on multiple sites.
  • Dec 14, 2005, 08:51 PM
    tyieka
    Thank you
    Thank you for your message, It was quiet anoying it seemed that every message I replied too was the subject of this persons sarcasm, Now don't get me wrong after so many years of doing public demonstrations I am used to a few hecklers but to have downing negative comments coming nearly every time I posted a reply was getting beyond a joke. Perhaps this person has had a bad experience in their life concerning a psychic but not all psychics are the same some of us don't ask for this gift we are given it and some times it can be a curse, especially if you say something that the person you are reading for does not want to hear but you can only tell it as it is, And that's what I do.
    Once again thank you for your message.
    God bless.
    Tyieka
  • Dec 15, 2005, 02:01 AM
    LTheobald
    Hi Tyieka,

    I'm sorry to hear that you are leaving and was wondering if you would reconsider. I've seen some of the hassle you've got in your posts and I know that the persons involved are normally very helpful and hopefully regret what they did.

    Psychic readings have always been one of those areas where a lot of people are sceptical and on something as open as an internet message board, the comments can come thick and fast.

    Please try and hang around for a little longer. Hopefully the people giving you some hassle will stop and you'll get some more genuine queries coming your way.
  • Dec 15, 2005, 02:56 AM
    DJ 'H'
    Please don't leave! You seem like a very lovely person and your presence will be missed!
  • Dec 15, 2005, 03:58 AM
    RickJ
    I also think you should reconsider. If your answers are helpful for the asker, then keep doing that good work... and do your best to ignore the Trolls.

    Tough sometimes, I know. :o
  • Dec 15, 2005, 04:59 AM
    tyieka
    Thank you
    I will continue to help on the board for those who request my help I am not the type of person to let people get to me but find it hard to understand why anyone can take delight in downing others it is so terribly sad I just hope this person finds what they appear to be looking for I wish I could help them to understand.

    tyieka
  • Dec 15, 2005, 05:04 AM
    DJ 'H'
    I am so glad! You are helping me with my cat - and I cannot tell you how grateful I am.
  • Dec 15, 2005, 05:28 AM
    tyieka
    Thank you you are very kind.
  • Dec 15, 2005, 05:36 AM
    DJ 'H'
    Just being honest. I have just spoke to the army in ireland - they say she is not in any of the lorries and she has not turned up anywhere. Having checked bushes etc to see perhaps she did die and having checked everywhere else she could possibly be or go I am starting to think she may have been stolen which is the one thing I had omitted to think of.
  • Dec 15, 2005, 06:08 AM
    JoeCanada76
    Tyieka I am happy that you are staying. No matter where you go or what you do there always be somebody that has a different point of view or different beliefs. There always be somebody that tries to attack you whether it be a gift or belief, but I do believe that we all need to respect each other and let everybody communicate with each other. Try to let negative energy, or things that we feel are negative to roll off the back and not let it get us down and continue to be yourself. Everybody is different, we all unique in our own ways.

    Good luck with everything.

    Joe
  • Dec 15, 2005, 06:14 AM
    tyieka
    Dh
    Please send email address via an email to [email protected] urgently I have something for you
    tyieka
  • Dec 15, 2005, 06:59 AM
    DJ 'H'
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tyieka
    please send email address via an email to [email protected] urgently I have some thing for you
    tyieka

    I have just sent you an email.
  • Dec 15, 2005, 07:02 AM
    fredg
    Stay
    Hi,
    Please stay.
    Any forum on the web where posts are allowed freely, will result in all kinds of replies, some good, some not so good.
    It's a way of life... everything is not so good. Try overlooking those aspects, and hope your decision to stay will last. We need you.
  • Dec 15, 2005, 07:11 AM
    tyieka
    Comment on fredg's post
    It is nice to see genuine replies
  • Dec 15, 2005, 08:38 AM
    DJ 'H'
    Tyieka
    I have responded to your email.
  • Dec 15, 2005, 09:10 AM
    DJ 'H'
    Tyieka
    Just responded again.
  • Dec 15, 2005, 04:09 PM
    CroCivic91
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DJ 'H'
    just responded again.

    I believe the one who was sent an email will check it's email more often than this board.

    On the other hand, I've seen too many "psychics" here being overly sensitive when asked to "prove" their gift. I do not believe in psychics... it is simply against my beliefs, and I will continue not to believe in them until I get my proof, and after I get my proof that they really do exist, I will stand behind them. But until I'm proven they can really do what they say - I will continue to test them.

    Some hide behind the lines like: "I do not need you to believe me." or "I will not waste my time on your childish games.". Some even offer to answer any questions, and simply overlook the questions which they don't like, or which they understand that they need to answer in a simple and ungeneralized way. I do believe that people who are doing this are not lacking intelligence, because I understand that one must have a certain degree of intelligence to not be able to do what they say they can, but however manage to force people into believing they can do it, and even draw some money out of them for doing nothing but saying generalized things which are correct 95% of the time. But if they're asked "What can you say about my granny?", they understand that they cannot say anything about her except that she is PROBABLY over 50 since she is someone's granny, so they decide to ignore it. I see that as a fraud and I will always make fun of such people. If I'm however proven to be wrong and I get an answer that I know is correct, I will honestly apologize and will stand up for such people.

    Too bad I've never met someone that could answer a question to which only I knew an answer to.
  • Dec 15, 2005, 04:44 PM
    NeedKarma
    I approve of the above post, of course.
  • Dec 15, 2005, 06:09 PM
    nymphetamine
    Meanies! :p
  • Dec 15, 2005, 07:21 PM
    LisaB4657
    It's one thing to test someone's beliefs and it's a completely different thing to belittle their beliefs and attempts to help others. I won't presume to speak for Tyieka but I would guess that the desire to leave is fueled more by NeedKarma's ridicule than by CroCivic's desire for proof.
  • Dec 16, 2005, 04:47 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by crankiebabie
    Meanies! :p

    So they are allowed to say that they believe in something but we aren't allowed to say that we don't believe in something?
  • Dec 16, 2005, 04:53 AM
    LTheobald
    There's a difference between saying you don't believe in something and "attacking" someone for their beliefs.

    I'm not a religious person and don't believe in God (well, not 100% anyway). Doesn't mean I go round to every Christian I see asking them stupid questions about God and why there is so much cruelty in the world etc.

    Everyone has a right to their own beliefs and those should be respected. Surely not respecting their beliefs would be violating the rules of this board (off I go to check... Hmmm... Well it is kind of)
  • Dec 16, 2005, 05:00 AM
    RickJ
    Comment on Fr_Chuck's post
    Good advice
  • Dec 16, 2005, 05:04 AM
    DJ 'H'
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma
    So they are allowed to say that they believe in something but we aren't allowed to say that we don't believe in something?

    You are missing the point entirely. There is nothing wrong with your opinions - you are entitled to have them and share them with all. But making someone feel really small is mean. Her gift is special & important to her - so you should not make her feel insignificant and stupid. That's what all those comments did, hence why she wanted to leave. Luckily we managed to to persuade her otherwise.

    Just to add - I truly believe in her. She is assisting me with my missing cat "Cassie" and the area she described to me matches the very area opposite my street. I was looking there last night and all these cats came roaming round and were directing me to this one house. Plus my mums cat "Mitzi" ventured over to that area this morning sniffing like mad leading me to the same house & garden. No-one was home so we asked a neighbour who informed us the person living in that house has a habit of adopting cats for her own. Coincidence?? I think not.
  • Dec 16, 2005, 06:26 AM
    tyieka
    Your post meanies
    No one says you have to believe but when some one comes on here and alters messages meant for another and thinks that is funny then I sorry it is not, These messages are in answer to questions posed by people who want help or want to know about psychic energies or just want to understand.
    You can have whatever belief you like but do not try to condem others for theirs. Don@t dismiss or ridicule something you donot understand or know anything about, stick to what you know and not to what you think you know!
  • Dec 16, 2005, 06:33 AM
    DJ 'H'
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tyieka
    no one says you have to believe but when some one comes on here and alters messages meant for another and thinks that is funny then I sorry it is not, These messages are in answer to questions posed by people who want help or want to know about psychic energies or just want to understand.
    You can have whatever belief you like but do not try to condem others for theirs. Don@t dismiss or ridicule something you donot understand or know anything about, stick to what you know and not to what you think you know!

    Well said! Totally agree.
  • Dec 16, 2005, 06:42 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tyieka
    ...but when some one comes on here and alters messages meant for another and thinks that is funny then I sorry it is not, ...

    I did not alter a message. It's called satire and is meant to show that the response is so generic that it can be applied in many circumstances.

    Here is an explanation for you. CroCivic’s previous post in this thread also echoes my sentiments. The key is to look at the content of the answers objectively and not reading into it the answer you want to see. Maybe you can help me ‘understand’.

    At no point did “the psychic” display any signs of truly psychic ability. When asked any questions he/she responds with reiterating content of the question (yes, the more you give her the more she can respond) and adding some generalities that can apply to most situations and events. (see: https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/showpo...4&postcount=12)

    Another example: when asked about a missing cat the response from the psychic was along the lines of: Cats are funny. “I had a cat same age as yours. It died. I do not pick up anything about your cat at all.” Where is the psychic ability there? If the response was: “The energy is strong, your cat is on Plover Street, under a red car.”, and DJ H responded by saying “Yes, I found her there, thank you!” then we have a semblance of a gift there, no one can deny that. But we have yet to have seen any specific examples of this.

    The gift that she does possess is more common, it’s a form of social engineering. The more information you provide the more they can spin that into their answer. Doing this on a discussion board with registered users is even less of a challenge because you can view all of the posts of people that ask questions – more info for the response! Hence the psychic completely bypassed the question that was asked about bearing children. The grandmother question was never answered. The date of birth request? Well you can use astrology information to help you get some variety in your generic information (“You enjoy the outdoors at times but will face some stressful situations in the near future, your faith will help you overcome it.”).

    This social gift is good for entertainment purposes but not for real life issues. Remember: anyone can put anything in their profile they want but that does not make it so. I could easily describe myself in my profile as a Ferrari race director, billionaire, only date actresses, and an underwear model; I could propagate that in my posts here because that’s the allure of the internet.

    The reason I mention all of this is that as well as being a technical person who likes to help others I also enjoy being an ombudsman of sorts trying to protect people from being lied to, scammed, or deceived.

    Now I have not attacked you in this post. I’m not sure why you started a dramatic “I’m leaving” thread instead of just leaving but you probably were trying to demean me.

    I look forward to you enlightening me.
  • Dec 16, 2005, 07:21 AM
    DJ 'H'
    You are sceptical yes - but you have no proof to back up your answer; which leaves you with only an opinion of what you believe, not what is fact.

    tyieka and I have been dealing with my missing cat through private emails - so you are clueless to know what has actually been said.

    She does not know my area fullstop but was able to see something; as she described it I was slightly baffled. I mentioned one or two places down the road from where I live but she said she felt it was closer to me. I went out when I got home from work last night and found a garden that was a perfect match to what she had seen.

    My other cats and neighbours cats were surrounding that area also and I could see they were all trying to tell me something. Although tyieka cannot be exact - she has put me on the right track. The cats in my area I believe are proof that she saw the very garden across the road from me. But that does mean you have to agree or that anyone else has to agree. But this is what I believe.
  • Dec 16, 2005, 07:36 AM
    ScottGem
    The adage that comes to mind after reading the previous posts here is:

    "If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen!"

    That may sound harsh, but it applies. I've been participating on boards like this for more than 20 years. Nothing has changed in that time. Some people have strong opinions and are not afraid to express them. Others have a malicious streak and the anonymity of the Net allows them an outlet they can't get elsewhere.

    ANYONE choosing to participate on a site like this needs to understand this. They need to realize they will get attacked, flamed, abused, etc. Of course, they may also get lauded, complimented and praised. It all just goes with the territory.

    That doesn't mean you should not object to the malicious or fight back against it. But if you can't deal with that type of reaction, then maybe you shouldn't participate.

    Nor am I condoning or accepting such behavior, just pointing out that it's a fact of BBS life and one needs to deal with it or get out. You need a thick skin to participate on these sties, especially in a topic like Psychics.
  • Dec 16, 2005, 11:35 AM
    nymphetamine
    I will miss tyieka. Sometimes when I read certain posts I say to myself I wish tyieka was here to see this one.
  • Dec 16, 2005, 01:01 PM
    labman
    Maybe we all need to be a little more tolerant of each other. I am highly skeptical of all the paranormal area. As a scientist, I am looking for objective proof. As a Christian, if I ever saw any, I would condemn it as the work of the devil as the Bible says. Note my absence on the Psychic forum.

    I took my dog to a Christmas concert Tuesday. We are fixture at civic events in town. They mixed in some humor. I got a good laugh when they made fun of me for using my dog to help connect donations when we rang bells for the Salvation army. They also told a story that has been around.

    A Russian Rabbi is visiting America. He goes out to a Chinese restaurant with a group. When the bill comes, there is a Christmas tree ornament for each. The group starts laughing when they realize it is made in India. Somebody notices the Rabbi is crying. They ask ''Are you offended by the Christmas tree ornament?'' He says ''No, where else but America would a Buddhist give a Jew a Christian symbol made by a Hindu?''.

    This post does not mean the new, kinder, gentler Labman won't condemn an answer he has good reason to think could kill a dog. I mostly stick to areas I know something about.
  • Dec 16, 2005, 01:07 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by crankiebabie
    I will miss tyieka. Sometimes when I read certain posts I say to myself I wish tyieka was here to see this one.

    She's still here.
  • Dec 16, 2005, 01:42 PM
    tyieka
    You post
    Thank you for your support, I am staying on the board but personal replies will be done via the persons email rather than the board that way they can not be misinterpeted by some one who does not know about these things.
    Thank you again.
    God Bless
    Tyieka
  • Dec 16, 2005, 03:20 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tyieka
    they can not be misinterpeted by some one who does not know about these things.

    Tyieka

    I would appreciate it if you would stop slamming me at every opportunity.

    Thank you.
    :)
  • Dec 16, 2005, 05:23 PM
    PrettyLady
    Tyieka, don't take things so personally or seriously. The members are entitled to put their thoughts and opinions out there, whether you agree with them or not. When "opinion attack" happens to you, all you can do is look on the bright side. It's not good to get defensive and criticize people on their beliefs. You will be giving advice side by side with members every day on this board, so you don't want to start a flame war with them. I am for a healthy debate about ideas and options, it results in a more thorough study of better decisions and direction. Welcome to the board, I'm sure your psychic gift will be helpful to others.
  • Dec 16, 2005, 06:35 PM
    CaptainForest
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tyieka
    they can not be misinterpeted by some one who does not know about these things.
    Tyieka


    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma
    I would appreciate it if you would stop slamming me at every opportunity.

    Thank you.
    :)


    HAHAHA

    I think Tyieka seems to think it's a requirement and thinks that anyone who doesn't believe in tarot card reading is evil, or at least, is rude, obnoxious and pigheaded.
  • Dec 17, 2005, 05:21 AM
    CroCivic91
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tyieka
    Thankyou for your support, I am staying on the board but personal replies will be done via the persons email rather than the board that way they can not be misinterpeted by some one who does not know about these things.

    Funny... perhaps we should all answer questions we find in the threads on this forum through private messages, because I, too, should fear that someone who has never seen a car might missinterpret the answer I give on starting a Civic.

    NeedKarma, aren't you afraid that someone who knows nothing about computers might missinterpret the answers you give about computer problems? Should this be a huge turn-around in the history of this board? Will we all start giving answers through private messages?

    The only good thing it would do is make the rating system unneeded :D
  • Dec 17, 2005, 06:27 AM
    fredg
    Misinterpretations
    Hi, tyieka,
    Human nature is such that when anything is said or typed;
    Some hear what they want to hear,
    Others hear what you are really saying,
    Still others hear what they think you are saying, and are wrong,
    And, others don't hear anything, cause they aren't listening.

    You have done a great service to this site by asking/commenting on your original question... bringing out what really happens on any forum. There are usually as many different opinions on anything as there are people.
    Some Presidents of the United States have conferred with Psychics.
    Others don't believe at all, and sometimes will criticize your area of expertise.
    It's up to you to take it all in stride, and give the best answers you can to whoever asks them. That's why we are here.

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