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Originally Posted by Clough
Where I live, health care is taken care of by the State, if you can't afford it.

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Originally Posted by hheath541

I don't qualify for state health care. Child 19 and under qualify based on income. The same with seniors 65 and over. Between those ages, you have to either have a documented disability that requires frequent medical care, or have a child under 19 years old.

Since I haven't been stupid enough to have a kid I don't want, I don't qualify for health care. The only way to find out if you have a disability is to go to a doctor, which requires health care.

What State is this, please?

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Originally Posted by Clough
That's what we would like to think, but I'm not so sure about that...

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Originally Posted by J_9

Sadly, I have to agree with you Clough. Not sad that I have to agree, but sadly I have to agree... did that make any sense? Nah, I didn't think so.

You're getting philosophical here, J_9! That's okay! ;)

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Originally Posted by Clough

You're getting philosophical here, J_9! That's okay! ;)

I'm getting philosophical? Maybe I should go back to school for philosophy if the health care bill passes.

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Originally Posted by Clough

You're getting philosophical here, J_9! That's okay! ;)

Why would the bill's passage discourage current health care workers? Seems like there would be an even bigger need for good people. The salaries and benefits would be less?

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Originally Posted by Clough

What State is this, please?

Ohio

Happy your feeling a bit better Alty.

Take care everyone and have a great night.

Joe

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Why would the bill's passage discourage current health care workers? Seems like there would be an even bigger need for good people. The salaries and benefits would be less?

The salaries and benefits would be WAY less. There is already a nursing shortage, and we don't get paid near what we should. Not that I'm knocking having a job, mind you.

What you don't see are the behind-the-scenes. For example, we have a form of health care here in TN that is similar to what the bill proposes. What we have here are people going to L&D at 7 at night when they could have visited the doctor before 5. These costs are astronomical and we don't get paid for that. Our unit only gets paid for actual deliveries.

We have patients who come up to our unit for attention getting purposes only, but none of them are real insurance carrying people, but rather medicaid patients. Now, I'm not saying that all medicaid patients are like that, but we do have a high number of them that are.

I could go on and on about this as I am not only a nurse, but I reconcile the charges for every person who comes to our unit for anything. I have a meeting on Wednesday with the state and corporate auditors to discuss these charges. We lose almost 75% of our revenue to people that do not have private insurance.

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Originally Posted by Clough
You're getting philosophical here, J_9! That's okay! ;)

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Originally Posted by J_9

I'm getting philosophical? Maybe I should go back to school for philosophy if the health care bill passes.

It's a matter of opinion. The health care bill, if passed or not, is a matter of philosophical debate, in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by hheath541

ohio

Thank you for filling me in about that. I'm in Illinois. I'll have to check out the statutes in Ohio.

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Originally Posted by J_9

The salaries and benefits would be WAY less. There is already a nursing shortage, and we don't get paid near what we should. Not that I'm knocking having a job, mind you.

What you don't see are the behind-the-scenes. For example, we have a form of health care here in TN that is similar to what the bill proposes. What we have here are people going to L&D at 7 at night when they could have visited the doctor before 5. These costs are astronomical and we don't get paid for that. Our unit only gets paid for actual deliveries.

We have patients who come up to our unit for attention getting purposes only, but none of them are real insurance carrying people, but rather medicaid patients. Now, I'm not saying that all medicaid patients are like that, but we do have a high number of them that are.

I could go on and on about this as I am not only a nurse, but I reconcile the charges for every person who comes to our unit for anything. I have a meeting on Wednesday with the state and corporate auditors to discuss these charges. We lose almost 75% of our revenue to people that do not have private insurance.

Wow! My niece just became an RN, and I got the impression she is pretty well-paid.

Your description of the nursing situation sounds almost identical at times to the library profession -- "people going to [the library] at 7 at night [and wanting to stay past closing at 9] when they could have visited [it] before 5... [people] who come up to [the library] for attention getting purposes only, but none of them are [card-carrying patrons], but rather [unincorporated residents who cannot check out books because they don't pay taxes to the library]." And we serve everyone at notoriously low salaries no matter what their needs or where they live.

I feel for you!

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Wow! My niece just became an RN, and I got the impression she is pretty well-paid.

It all depends if she is working in a for-profit or not-for-profit hospital and what her specialty is.

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Originally Posted by J_9

It all depends if she is working in a for-profit or not-for-profit hospital and what her specialty is.

She's just a floor nurse, maybe at a church-run hospital (but not sure). It's a small-town, semi-rural area near the Quad Cities (Illinois-Iowa -- near Clough, in fact).

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Originally Posted by J_9

The salaries and benefits would be WAY less.

A friend was watching the political stuff today on TV and emailed me this: "Well, the AMA supported it and so does the biggest nurses assoc, the ANA. They urged its passage."

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

A friend was watching the political stuff today on tv and emailed me this: "Well, the AMA supported it and so does the biggest nurses assoc, the ANA. They urged its passage."

Where did your friend get this info?

The only two doctors I work for (they voted for Nobama) have decided to retire if this passes. Why? Because they will be required to perform abortions. Something they clearly don't believe in. It is against their beliefs as obstetricians and Christians.

We will be earning .50 on the dollar, there will be more patients than there are doctors, so the waiting list to get in to be seen will be significantly higher.

Look at what Alty is going through, how long it is taking her to be seen and diagnosed, that is what we are facing. Higher mortality rates due to fewer providers and longer wait lists to be seen for diagnostic treatments.

Medicare will suffer, the elderly who depend on this will have increased health costs while those that have babies to get a check will have decreased costs.

Look at it this way, those that have to pay for their health care, or a portion thereof, take better care of themselves, even if it's only $10 a visit.

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Originally Posted by J_9

Where did your friend get this info?

I said she was watching the sessions on TV. She likes that stuff.

I thought the idea is that everyone will have to purchase an insurance plan or pay a penalty. Nothing is supposed to be free.

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

I thought the idea is that everyone will have to purchase an insurance plan or pay a penalty. Nothing is supposed to be free.

That's not all that's involved. OB/GYNs are supposed to be able to perform abortions whether they want to or not. The costs of health care will actually be increased for senior citizens, there is so much more, I could go into a diatribe, but we are already hijacking Alty's thread. :o

While I agree that we need to do something, the current plan will ruin us. Doctors will retire, nurses will retire, the shortage of medical professionals will leave us in a health care bind.

I'd like to read that email your friend sent you. I don't know anyone in my profession who is actually "for" this bill. We are afraid of it actually. If it passes, I will be going back to school for my masters to work in the legal field, yet again, as an expert witness.

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Originally Posted by J_9

I'd like to read that email your friend sent you.

I quoted her entire email except for a comment about a recipe she made that had fennel in it. Do you want that part too?

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The only two doctors I work for (they voted for Nobama) have decided to retire if this passes. Why? Because they will be required to perform abortions. Something they clearly don't believe in. It is against their beliefs as obstetricians and Christians.

They should not be forced to do that! There has to be more dialog about this.
Clearly we have many kinks to work out of this plan.The bottom line is health care for everyone.That is the goal.

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Originally Posted by artlady

They should not be forced to do that! There has to be more dialog about this.
Clearly we have many kinks to work out of this plan.The bottom line is health care for everyone.That is the goal.

That's the goal Artsy, but this is not the correct plan. The docs I work for will have to accept everyone, and do whatever procedure is necessary, including abortion.

My opinion is that we have to protect our elderly. They have worked all their lives to be able to enjoy the luxuries of life. They won't be able to do that with the current plan.

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Originally Posted by artlady

\ Hay girl I made this a long time ago but I see you in this image and know you are connected.

That is beautiful. You made it?

I agree J , that's a great picture.

Hang on... if that's you , your not wearing a Bra :eek:

That is all our girl needs to do ,our sweetie alty ,chill and look to the east
We all send good vibes,it will work! I know this to be true!

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That is beautiful. You made it?

Thanks!

You people are so kind and giving,I feel so blessed to call you my friends and you know who you are !
You rock,, you really do!

Your on line how you doing?

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Originally Posted by artlady

Your on line how you doin?

Hi Artsy, I'm doing okay. I'm hanging in there.

M, quit staring at my breasts! ;)

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Originally Posted by Altenweg

Hi Artsy, I'm doing okay. I'm hanging in there.

M, quit staring at my breasts! ;)

Hay good to see you here,
I just got a bad diagnosis about me too.man life is tough.
But we got to hang ,right sweetie :rolleyes:

If you follow basketball at all you have to root for syracuse.
My home team! Root for us!

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Originally Posted by artlady

Hay good to see you here,
I just got a bad diagnosis about me too.man life is tough.
But we gotta hang ,right sweetie :rolleyes:

What's going on Artsy? Did I miss something? What bad diagnosis? Are you okay?

Talk to me girl. I need to know.

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Originally Posted by Altenweg

What's going on Artsy? Did I miss something? What bad diagnosis? Are you okay?

Talk to me girl. I need to know.

Oh honey I have many problems but we will put them on the back burner for now..
Love you sweetheart!

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Originally Posted by artlady

Oh honey I have many problems but we will put them on the back burner for now..
Love you sweetheart!

Artsy, if there's something going on and you want to talk about it, we're all here, I hope you know that.

I understand if you don't want to talk about it, but we worry about you. Just be safe, be healthy and most importantly, keep being you because we all love you.

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Originally Posted by Altenweg

Artsy, if there's something going on and you want to talk about it, we're all here, I hope you know that.

I understand if you don't want to talk about it, but we worry about you. Just be safe, be healthy and most importantly, keep being you because we all love you.

Well thanks honey :) I love you too!
Pretty sick but I will survive !
Tough old broad that I am !
I am really searching for good doctors to help me and that is a huge thing,
You are so blessed to have the doctor that you have faith in.It means so much.
I would give anything for a good doctor. Your blessed.

You get better now you hear me ? You're my sister and I am praying for you ;)

All my love to you :D

YEAH!, what she said!

Anyway, Arty, get well soon you too! With illnesses, we may never know when complications can arise :( Just take care, okay?

Alty, get your pills regularly now, the thyroid ones. (I'm saying it again to remind you again, just in case ;))

You're both in my prayers.

::Hugs::

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Anything today? All is well I hope?

Probably getting tired of all this digging into your life, but... ya know;)

Hi all. Ken, you make me giggle. ;)

I slept most of the day, had a rough night, tummy ache, legs hurting, couldn't get comfy, couldn't find "the zone".

I have a few things that need to be done today, but I'm just too tired. Darn stupid anemia. But other then that, I am feeling better. :)

Thanks for all the prayers and love and the reminder to take my pills. :)

All that stuff will be there, when you're feeling up to doing it! Rest!

Have you heard anything from the Doc today?

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All that stuff will be there, when you're feeling up to doing it! Rest!

Have you heard anything from the Doc today?

I called him. He says my hemoglobin is slowly getting higher, so the iron pills are working.

Next step, keep the hemoglobin rising and then find out why I'm bleeding so I don't have to be on iron pills for the rest of my life. ;)

Complete physical on March 30 and then CT scan on April 6. I'm still waiting for an appointment for a colonoscopy. :(

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Originally Posted by Altenweg

Hi all. Ken, you make me giggle. ;)

I slept most of the day, had a rough night, tummy ache, legs hurting, couldn't get comfy, couldn't find "the zone".

I have a few things that need to be done today, but I'm just too tired. Darn stupid anemia. But other then that, I am feeling better. :)

Thanks for all the prayers and love and the reminder to take my pills. :)

I can't sleep at night either, maybe we should go over those plans? :p

I wake around 3 every night/morning, whatever:mad:, Moods swinging like a monkey on roids,head cold(thanks Dad! )

Just thought you might want some company in the misery zone:rolleyes: