I will look at these tomorrow. Hubby is like a kid in a candy store. Thanks CalDad.
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KK I can't picture you packing one of those. But nice choice.
700 rounds a minute is going to have some affect.
Get 10 of those bad boys bursting on your skull every second is going to slow you down.
Or at least get your attention.
I heard a rumor there are napalm balls available from certain distributors?
In this age of ambulance chasers, I prefer to make certain that the Estate is the only one that can sue me.
I can't believe we are having this discussion.
Tick
I still like the TAC-700 with the pepper heads. Whoa! That would put the hurt on a Grizzly Bear.
When we go to the shooting range my husband takes an auto. I like my S&W.38 Lady. Great weapon.
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I do see and respect your point of view, but I feel that not talking about it, not expressing how we feel, trying to hide it like it doesn't exists, is not helping the issue, but sweeping it under the rug.
I don't feel that my siggy pic is going to influence anyone person to do anything specific. Maybe it is promoting "guns", but I am not against guns. I am not responsible for those who un lawfully own or distribute guns.
After all I have a picture of a pitbul in my avi, and I know you know that I would NEVER support dog fighting. Same idea.
I do feel that any one person should be able to own guns, I do feel that they should be registered, and I do feel that people need to take proper precaution in using firearms. But no matter what the situation is, there is always going to be those people who abuse certain situations.
I hope that makes sense... :p
This is what spawned my response, Dad, I hope you don't mind we moved our gun talk here.Quote:
Considering our gun registry in many Canadian provinces is compromised. We don't know where the guns are coming from; possibly over the border. I strongly object to the gun posts. The death rate in the Toronto area is extremely high because guns are being used for random shooting. Machine guns (for m lack of a better description) are being used as well. Meaning, they are firing them for fun and not caring who they hit.
I don't like ABs signature one little bit; but that is just me. Can we not talk about guns here AMHD because it may seem we promote this gun adventure.
Don't get me wrong, I know there are people who enjoy guns, hand guns, hunting guns, whatever and proper licensing and usage is tantamount.
I would like to see ABs signature with the gun removed. I can use a .22 for target practice (yes I now what she is holding is not a .22)with the best of them, but I don't advertise it.
tick
By Tickle in the Pictures of our members thread;
I wish to address this post. I'll do it here as it's a more appropriate place.Quote:
okay, give me a link in member discussions and I will take it there. But, here or there, the point remains, there are guns available in Canada unlicensed and no one is registering them AB. I know what you are saying, and I agree. My dad was a hunter and I was too when I had the time, he didn't collect and back then guns had to be registered. His always were. That has stopped unless you don't know it has and you haven't been reading the papers.
I know you and others treat your guns in a responsible manner, that isn't to say other do; that is why I object to guns being discussing in AMHD. I don't see a problem with this request, and I don't agree with a post displaying a gun in the hand.
What does a picture of a gun have to do with Canadian gun laws? First, it's not even a picture of Bella and her gun, as far as I know she doesn't own one. It's not easy to get a gun in Canada, at least not in my part of Canada, licensed or unlicensed. Heck, we have two rifles, rifles we don't even use, but just to keep them we had to jump through hoops, pay hundreds of dollars, take a test, answer a very long questionnaire, etc. etc.
Tick, you may object to guns being discussed on AMHD, but if we got rid of threads or forums to make everyone happy, there wouldn't be an AMHD. I don't particularly like the skin lightening forum, or the current events forum, but everyone has a right to discuss what they wish to discuss. You cannot dictate what is discussed here just because you don't like it.
So, my suggestion to you, avoid the gun threads. If you don't like Bella's avy, don't look at it. Problem solved.
I do have a pellet gun, but it doesn't have to be registered. :p
I have been taught to use guns, my fathers profession and pass times made it possible for me to get the proper practice and knowledge that anyone should have before picking up a gun.
No that is not me in the picture, but I happen to like it. It was given to me by a friend who was concerned about my situation, and for what ever reason it made me smile. (Thanks Dad)
I didn't want to offend anyone with it. But I guess I kind if feel like Alty here, don't like it? Don't look at it...
That was kind of hard nosed, alty, and I don't know why you would take that attitude with me. Skin lightening threads cannot possibly compare to discussion on guns. Why would you say I am dictating, alty. Not dictating, only suggesting.
Sorry, but I am not backing down and why would you expect me to.
Edit: no I don't have to look at it, but every time I see a post by AB, and I love her to death and her posts too, how can I miss it?
Tick
I have guns. My husband has guns. We've taught our children
About gun safety. I should shoot my dad's shotgun when I was nine.
When our grandsons are old enough we take them to gun safety classes. Freedom to bear arms.
If a criminal is going to get a gun I don't think he's going to buy one.
Parents who have children should
Teach them the pros and cons of guns.
What should I have said to make it proper, 'in all do respect, etc.'. Okay, in all due respect I respectfully submit my opinion on guns and how people use them good or bad.
Tick, I adore you too, and I do respect you, and I don't want this to lead to hard feelings. But the picture to me doesn't represent illeagal activities, or criminal, it represents an independent woman, a strong woman, a woman in charge.
A woman not to mess with. And that's the inspiration I needed.
Freedom to bear arms. We have a right to own guns. There are threads here about everything. Why not guns? I agree Alty... it's it's a discussion board.
Tickle, I mean no disrespect to you, but it's not right to have some discussions that are controversial and not be able to discuss hobbies here.
Millions love to discuss guns and I see nothing wrong with it.
Bella... You're fine. I like the gun.
You're not dictating Tickle? You're not trying to tell people what they can post about and what avy's they can have? Could you explain this than?
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I would like to see ABs signature with the gun removed.
You want Bella to remove her signature, and you don't want guns being discussed on AMHD. So what would you like done? People have a right to discuss what they want to discuss within the rules of this site, and guns aren't against the rules. A picture of a gun is not against the rules. Why should Bella have to remove that picture just because one person doesn't like it?Quote:
that is why I object to guns being discussing in AMHD. I don't see a problem with this request, and I don't agree with a post displaying a gun in the hand.
I don't see what's "hard-nosed" about that. Don't like it, don't look, don't read, just ignore. That's the only option you have.
Did you miss this post, alty:
What should I have said to make it proper, 'in all do respect, etc.'. Okay, in all due respect I respectfully submit my opinion on guns and how people use them good or bad.
Tickle.. I will add this.. why do you object to a gun thread? What if people objected to forums where you are an expert. Would you be upset?
I think you would. This board gives us freedom of expression and speech as long as we follow the rules. I'd like to see the gun thread grow and maybe some gun safety tips.
If the Mods had objected... there would be no gun thread . I think hurting peoples feelings about this is wrong on your part. You don't care much for me anyway so I'll just say this... You need to knock it off about the avatars and the gun thread.
Tick, do you want a fight? I'm not in the mood.
Bottom line, when you own a site and pay for it's upkeep, you can dictate what discussions are allowed, and what avatars are allowed. Until then, you're just a member like the rest of us, and you have no say in what others wish to discuss.
You and Bella may be okay, but you're the one that posted this in the public forum instead of dealing with it via PM. So, you opened this can of worms, now it's all hunky doorie and we're just supposed to let it drop? How's that?
As for your post, I was writing when you posted it, so yes, I did miss it.
I'm done. You have no case, you've made your feelings about guns clear, it's been noted, the end.
Good luck Tick. I don't wish to fight on my birthday.
If you read the heading on this thread started by me I had asked for others to show respect of opinions. And Im glad this discussion moved to this thread. I respect your opinion in not wanting to promote guns in any way. Many here and elsewhere have fun with them and use them for sport as well. Self defense is always a thought but not the main purpose for many people. As always to each his/her own. Welcome to the thread. Debate away. Above all have fun!!
I will mention that the only thing objectionable about the pic in Bell's sig is that it violates the first rule of gun safety: Don't point a gun at something you aren't shooting. Or did the camera get destroyed?
I've said this before. When every kid in all of North America could shoot by the age of twelve, there was no such thing as "gun violence." There was violence, sometimes guns were used, sometimes frying pans, sometimes chainsaws.
Where did you ever get the idea I didn't care much for you, where is that coming from?? You are taking this to a another level now kit, and I never inferred I didn't like anyone. I just don't like guns.
I don't need to knock it off about anything, Kit. I already have dropped it. I said AB and I are okay with what transpired. She explained it wasn't her in the her signature, Kit. She also explained why she trained with guns.
In any event, your laws in the US don't even relfect on our laws up here. We don't have the same constitution as yours, as in freedom to bare arms.
Tick
My feelings with guns are if you are afraid to be a victim, you need to practice NOT being one.
Not that I'm not paying attention but - honestly - I thought that was a CAMERA in AuroraBells signature. Now that I've taken a second look...
Gun story - let's see. I have a carry permit because of my work, was licensed to carry by the Federal Government, took all the classes. Thought I knew what I was doing BUT some years ago my ex-husband had a shotgun in the house. I heard a commotion outside, looked out, man had jumped over our chainlink fence and was picking up our lab puppy. I grabbed the shotgun and ran outside, yelled at him, he put the puppy down, backed up against the fence, threatened me. Keep in mind I had the gun. He was (apparently) unarmed. I was shaking from head to foot. A neighbor heard the yelling, called the Troopers, they got here, I'm still holding the guy at gunpoint. I swear if he would have moved toward me I would have shot him. It made me think about guns and gun safety.
I was simply too scared to tell him to leave - and to this day that scares me.
He was arrested, he was found guilty of trespass and that was the end of things but I think it was a sobering moment for both him and me.
Is there a point here? I don't know - and I still have a carry permit but we got rid of the shotgun.
What might he have done if you hadn't had the gun?
He still threatened you when you had it.
It is conjecture , but I would want the gun in hand and I too would have used it had he moved towards me.
Knowing how to use guns, I would have removed one or both of his knees.
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