I agree with tally in that even though there has yet to be a good solution to come around, we are figuring out exactly what we want to work towards and throwing up ideas and ways to possible get to it. And I know that valinor didn't say it, but just to make it clear, because it's kind of vague, I haven't done anything illegal in vegas. I know you didn't accuse me of anything, but I just want to throw that out there :). I agree with valinors that prostitution is not a one trick pony.
*Side note, thanks talaniman, I realized the word I was looking for was nympho maniac, not necrophiliac(I was definitely wayyyyyy off on that one)

I don't think however though that this has anything to do with intelligence, as the same number of high class business men that probably went to a good college practice prostitution if not more just as much as some high school dropout(because they can pay for it.) I also agree that it could be a "feeder" problem, because it definitely makes sense that domestic violence, sexual abuse, etc. has a large part to due with prostitution. I don't know however exactly how the high tolerance correlates, maybe you could explain that better, or maybe I am slow I just don't think how that translates to wanting to pick up a prostitute. Either way if it is a feeder problem, than how(now I am asking all of you) do you think we should stop the things that are feeding it.

It seems that we are not looking for one solution but many that lead to the same direction getting people to make healthier choices and it seems to start right their at home with the way children are brought up. Way off thread I know but it is related I think!

You have a point, but I am just curious to how you would accomplish this. Like would you sit your kids down tell about the birds and the bees than break it to them that prostitution is bad? Or would we give our kids little quizzes, such as a blond girl in hot pants walking down the street in front of the super eight at three in the morning.Do you:
a) Pick her up
b) Ask her if she needs a ride, then drive off
c) Ask for drugs
d) all of the above
e) Go home

In all honestly I agree with you it just seems that maybe you could put it in the school system, like they do with the d.a.r.e. program.

I was thinking along the lines of what Val wrote that domestic violence and sex abuse where keys to bad behavior later in life and its said that most prostitutes and runaways that get into the life are abused at a young age so they seek drugs as a way to cope.

Yeah I know tally, I was just messing with you...

I'm deep in thought and waiting on my first cup of coffee, Not a good combination at 5AM. And what are you doing out a 3am?? Does your wife know where you are?? :cool: :D

I'm a sucker for early east coast sports radio... lol

Eeek! My apologies Whizz - I have amended the post to reflect that too.

I'm trying to get a few things done before the grandkids get up and the heat sets in its already 85 degrees in Dallas and we'are looking for 105.

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Originally Posted by Cgirl

I am not saying there is an immediate solution to the problem, I am simply stating that just laying down and letting it happen is what this country is CURRENTLY doing. I am saying that it seems that some people and polititions think money is more important then solving the problem. I know that everyone ON HERE is not that way, I didn't mean to sound condesending at all. It just burns me up the way this country has let morals flush down the toilet, greed is much more important. The rich are gettting richer and the poor are getting poorer...and maybe if that was changed, including a better educational system for ALL, then maybe there wouldn't be as much prostitution and drugs and gangs, ect. I was not trying to say anyone on here didn't have morals, I was just saying I don't think that making Prostitution legal is the solution. I guess I should choose my words more wisely. No harm intended.

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I'm agreeing with you on the educational system as I think what they teach kids today is junk, and your comment about the movie "Pretty Woman" was Right On and sent the wrong message. I also noticed the ideas pick-up on this thread when the ladies start making their thoughts known. HMMMMM probably just a coincidence.

Your are right, but add the $1,000 a night call girl for the rich.

I am certrainly not for legalizing prostitution, and I hope I have not come across that way. I am only making statements and putting some thoughts and issues out there. I am not for legalizing anything that is immoral and harmful to anyone.

I think in order for a woman to sell herself as a prostitute, she has to have some issues of low to no self esteem. She does not value herself as a person, will allow herself to be used and abused. She has had to get this feeling while growing up. She was either unloved, abused, or even taught by her mother to sell her body. At any rate she has no respect for herself.
There is the male who has no respect for a woman and will look for a hooker for his needs. He was not taught to respect a woman. Then we have the men who use women as hookers to make a living for them. Again, no respect for each other or themselves. How do we solve that problem, how would you incorporate that in the schools? Those are issued that really need to start at home. I wish there would be a class in loving yourself, loving others, respect yourself and others. It is difficult for children that are not loved at home. They make up their own rules and get by as best they can. They learn to use others and some allow themselves to be used. Then they get into drugs. If they need drug money they turn to theft, prostitution, anything to get that next fix. Then there are the true sickies out there. Then the rich, remember the Hollywood scandel... Heidi Fli(can't remember the spelling) Anyway, I pray there is a solution for all of this.

I know what you mean about the heat, even though my house is airconditioned thank god, but I work out, and my equipment is at my house, and without really thinking I set it up outside. IN THE SUN. I can't use it now, because if I touch it, it's pure metal, it's scolding hot, so I am pretty pissed I can't really work out till late in the day which is throwing off everything I do, but hey what you going to do. The East Bay isn't as bad as dallas, we do usually hit tripple digits every day but there is no humidity, and I know the indian summer you are talking about because I use to live in the midwest, and the humidity blew. It just feels like you are in a sauna. The worst I ever had it though, was I was flying into chicago, and it had been pouring all night, like the streets were flooded, but it was during the summer and it was about 95 degrees out a night! It was like walking into a steam room.

Anyway, I was going to leave cassie some rep, can't do it though got's to spread it around to some peoples apparently, either way I agree with everything you said. And I think there should be classes on respecting and loving, and slowly schools are starting that because I have seen it in the last few schools I attended. They are these little 20 minute classes either before school or after and they talk about personal stuff with everyone and teach respect, it's pretty cool. South dakota has been doing it for years, it's called homeroom, and now the East Bay out here in California is trying to get that to come around. Either way I fully endorse a home room, because it is solely focused on the needs of children and their lifes outside of school and I feel the educational system has been missing that for a long time.

As for the east coast sports radio, I do actually stay up for it, it's called Mike and Mike in the morning... if you know anything about that it's on espn for like an hour, it's techincally radio but it's gets like taped on TV for about an hour, and I like to watch it, because I don't usually listen to sports radio, I usually rock out when I have the radio on so I don't get time to listen, anyway it's fun to watch.

This is one big 'A' problem and as hard as my brain has worked ,or not worked, I see no quick fix. Its been going on so long that is a complicated monster with a life of its own, so the only solution that I can figure out is to get a whole lot of people (millions) to raise hell with the politicians to make some long term changes and in the meantime (as I look at my grand son and daughter) make sure MINE don't fall through the cracks in this society.

I agree with you that it will take a lot of time and manpower, but you have to start somewhere, and yes definitely teach our kids that it is not right, because they are our future.

You got that right

Teach the children and help reclaim the adults who are lost. We cannot afford any more "them versus us" mentality. We are clearly all in this together, as I see it. At the risk of sounding like a 60's song: its going to take a lot of love.

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Originally Posted by valinors_sorrow

Teach the children and help reclaim the adults who are lost. We cannot afford any more "them versus us" mentality. We are clearly all in this together, as I see it. At the risk of sounding like a 60's song: its gonna take a lot of love.

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I agree fully with you! All We Need Is Love. . :)

All we need is a lot of love

Children are our future so true we need to teach them well