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  • Jun 3, 2008, 06:41 AM
    ISneezeFunny
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Romefalls19
    Just think, in the old times, that type of thing was punishable by DEATH! And you want to talk to her? I would say "come get your stuff on this date at this time, if not it will be on the curb. Thank you"

    That mess is STILL punishable by death in some countries.

    You could do what romefalls said to do (the curb idea), or if you want to be a WEE bit nicer, put her crap in storage and tell her to pick up the keys and that she has 1 month to clear out the storage or she's stuck with the bill.
  • Jun 3, 2008, 06:46 AM
    bigbird213
    I agree, its ridiculous for her to expect you to sit around and wait on her decision.

    That's unfair of her to expect, and will only slow you down in your healing.

    Go get some boxes and start packing up... at this point, her coming back shouldn't even be an option. We all know you'd love to take her back, but think rationally about it... Like Rome said, could you trust her with your heart again, and honestly think she wouldn't do it again?

    I made that mistake once... never again.
  • Jun 3, 2008, 07:01 AM
    starlite1
    Hi Guys,

    I want to call him so badly. I miss him so much. I wish and pray he would call... I don't know what to do... I know, I should do nothing... but I am afraid that I won't hear from him again...

    I am supposed to fly to GA and go to the concert with him in July. The last time I spoke to him was a week ago from this past Friday, and he was still very into my going with him. I haven't had any communication with him since (I still didn't buy my plane ticket yet either).
  • Jun 3, 2008, 07:03 AM
    ISneezeFunny
    ... starlite, I'm going to say that the concert may be off. Flying with him, I'm assuming that you'll be staying in the same hotel room... could be disastrous. Sure it'll be fun... but that'll put your nc STRAIGHT back.
  • Jun 3, 2008, 07:08 AM
    Romefalls19
    I mean, of course there are going to be parts of you that wants to take her back. We all understand that, as a lot of us at your point in time would have taken our ex's back with open arms but you need to take time and reflect about the relationship and I think you will see that you are much better off
  • Jun 3, 2008, 07:12 AM
    starlite1
    Hi Guys,

    Actually he lives in Georgia, so I would be flying from NY and staying at his house.

    I would love to work things out with him. I know I screwed up this time, because I broke it off with him, but I really do want him back...
  • Jun 3, 2008, 07:16 AM
    talaniman
    Starlite,
    Quote:

    I am supposed to fly to GA and go to the concert with him in July. The last time I spoke to him was a week ago from this past Friday, and he was still very into my going with him. I haven't had any communication with him since (I still didn't buy my plane ticket yet either).
    Forget that concert, it will be a clear message to him by not going, and a break of his attempts at control over this relationship.

    Given the past events, how can you give in to HIS wishes at this point? Forget plane tickets, buy yourself something nice, and do something you enjoy. Why ain't the bum buying you tickets, if he wants you so bad? Don't let emotions cloud your decisions when reality is really clear.
  • Jun 3, 2008, 07:22 AM
    starlite1
    I know Tal, and I keep saying that to myself. I was the one who screwed things up this time though...
  • Jun 3, 2008, 07:25 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    I would love to work things out with him.

    I bet, but the thing you keep missing is he doesn't compromise, you do. That's unequal, and unfair. You get nothing you want but him, on his terms as he wishes it. He gets exactly what he wants. Feelings aside, that's a lousy deal for you, but great for him, dontcha think?
    Quote:

    I know I screwed up this time, because I broke it off with him,

    The best thing you ever did, and if he wants you misses you, he'll come and get you, or at least call, and if you stick to your guns, he get to call the terms.
    Quote:

    but I really do want him back....

    Does that mean any way you can have him, or as a respectful caring partner? Give it some thought as to how much your willing to give, and what you want in return.
  • Jun 3, 2008, 07:33 AM
    damaged
    I agree with all of them... going to that concert would be a mistake... Let's say you get back together eventually you will break up again(he doesn't respect you).. so please forget about the concert, like talaiman said go buy yourself something nice, and let this guy go.. He hasn't even contacted you... & you didn't screw anything up.. he screwed it up.. He lost a good woman.. It's his loss...
    "dont worry about the people from your past, there's a reason why they didn't make it to your future"
  • Jun 3, 2008, 07:41 AM
    starlite1
    I know, I have given so much in this relationship, and he just comes back when he is ready, with hardly any communication in between. But what is killing me now is we were about to take this relationship to the next level (finally) and he was really there, and this was something that I had wanted for so long, and I killed it... and I hurt him I'm sure, and now he is not contacting me, or pursuing me... I know I hurt him though, and perhaps he feels that I am not worth it? But this time, I screwed it all up... that is what is killing me... I want him to forgive me, and take me back, so we can discuss everything, and I can really find out what he needs... and to have a mature conversation explain to him that all relationships require work... and to let him know why I got cold feet (and have him realize (without blaming him) that because he kept yo-yoing in the past, that is what I was afraid of this time... but I want to hear from him without his wall or whatever makes him do what he does, what he needs, and to let him know what I need, and we can do this... together

    I wish I knew what he is really thinking with regards to us, getting back together, etc...
  • Jun 3, 2008, 08:11 AM
    damaged
    Maybe you should think the way he thinks... How many times has he hurt you?. you should think he is not worth it as well.. but I guess you don't mind putting him before you.. that's too sad... ur selling yourself short..

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by starlite1
    I want him to forgive me, and take me back, so we can discuss everything, and I can really find out what he needs...

    You should get back with him, so he can dump again... Maybe then you will learn... :(
  • Jun 3, 2008, 08:32 AM
    talaniman
    Starlite1,
    Quote:

    I know, I have given so much in this relationship, and he just comes back when he is ready, with hardly any communication in between.
    Because you keep giving. No matter what he does, you keep giving.

    Quote:

    But what is killing me now is we were about to take this relationship to the next level (finally) and he was really there, and this was something that I had wanted for so long, and I killed it...
    That's what he let you think, and it's the oldest trick in the book, going along with you and your plans, and pulling the rug from under your feet, and making you think its your fault. Very old a common trick of a master manipulator.

    Quote:

    and I hurt him I'm sure, and now he is not contacting me, or pursuing me... I know I hurt him though, and perhaps he feels that I am not worth it? But this time, I screwed it all up... that is what is killing me.
    Geez that's his purpose to let you stew in your own juice feeling guilty and helpless. You are being tenderised for the main event.
    Quote:

    .. I want him to forgive me, and take me back, so we can discuss everything, and I can really find out what he needs.
    Ha! Your easy, that's the whole point, you being receptive to his needs, and want to please him.
    Quote:

    .. and to have a mature conversation explain to him that all relationships require work...
    Good luck with that, I think he has made it clear your idea of a relationship is not what he wants. Now he likes his idea better. You please him and meet his needs and he does nothing for you.
    Quote:

    and to let him know why I got cold feet (and have him realize (without blaming him) that because he kept yo-yoing in the past, that is what I was afraid of this time..
    You are wise to listen to your intuition, as yo-yo is what he wants and explaining will never change his mind. Talking rationally is what real caring humans do with their partner. That's something he wants no part of, and he has told you, he is not willing to work with you to solve your problems to the benefit of you both.
    Quote:

    .but I want to hear from him without his wall or whatever makes him do what he does, what he needs, and to let him know what I need, and we can do this... together
    What part of not being willg is it that confuses you as his every action and words have said "me and only me".
    Quote:

    I wish I knew what he is really thinking with regards to us, getting back together, etc..
    As I have said, HIS WAY OR NO WAY!


    Keep no contact, and stick to your guns, until action, not words, show he is willing to change and respect you.

    Love yourself enough, to keep your dignity and self respect. Read the first line in mysignature, and think about it.
  • Jun 3, 2008, 08:38 AM
    starlite1
    Thanks Tal... So I shouldn't contact him at all... let him wonder about me?
  • Jun 3, 2008, 08:50 AM
    dollarman
    No contact. Hang tough. At worst, he'll never call but you weren't waiting. At best, he'll call and you get to chat on YOUR terms. It's a win-win.
  • Jun 3, 2008, 08:54 AM
    starlite1
    Hi Dollarman,

    Thank you for your response. I know you are all right... I guess I need to work on my insecurity, and somehow realize how this man in not the best choice for me...

    After 39 years of being insecure, I don't know how not to be...
  • Jun 3, 2008, 08:56 AM
    jpm247
    Its not easy to accept, but I think that the advice you've been given is spot on. The hardest part is acting on the advice, I found it hard, but in the end they were right!
  • Jun 3, 2008, 09:20 AM
    starlite1
    You know, the more and more I think about it, I have always been the one to reach out to him after we have broken up, I always tried to fix the relationship, try and communicate to get through to him... I felt that I was the 'man' in the relationship, and I am the woman!
  • Jun 3, 2008, 11:13 AM
    hav0k
    I had a weird run in with the ex today. We are both taking classes on campus (unfortunately in the same building at the same time). It's the first time I've seen her since NC started ~five days ago. At this point I'm still pretty bitter about what she did (lead me on after we were on a "break" and then I found out she was already secretly hanging out with another guy behind my back (rebound guy?) - partly my fault to hang in there like that, but even after I found out she STILL tried to deny it... ). Anyway when I saw her she was walking in with one of my friends. I saw her smile at me, expecting some sort of greeting from me but I completely ignored her and only talked to my friend that she was with for a little. I know it made things awkward but at this point I'm still really pissed about what she did. Do you guys think I owe it to her to at least be civil and say hi when I see her around? I do feel a little bad (her smile still gets me... ) but honestly what she did was really F-ed up and I still don't think she even realizes that.
  • Jun 3, 2008, 11:20 AM
    ISneezeFunny
    You did what you felt was right at the time. However, if you want to come off as "I'm over you. Deal with it," then smile at her, say HI, then move on. Don't linger for a conversation, but at least be civil.
  • Jun 3, 2008, 11:22 AM
    starlite1
    Hi HavOK,

    I think don't it is a bad thing that you did. If you happen to see her again, and it's just the two of you (no friends around), just say a quick 'hey' and keep walking. If she stops you, you can stop if you want, and kind of be a little cool in your attitude. If the conversation gets a little heated, you say "listen, it's not cool what you did, I don't appreciate and I certainly didn't deserve it, think about it. See Ya". And that is all you have to say.
  • Jun 3, 2008, 12:03 PM
    dollarman
    I'm on day 5. Feeling strong... thinking of her, but I'm calm. Praise God! I'm looking forward to continuing this challenge. Any new updates or interesting news?
  • Jun 3, 2008, 12:05 PM
    starlite1
    Hi Dollarman,

    Good for you!! You are doing great! Nothing much with me. Still missing him, and stuff like that...
  • Jun 3, 2008, 12:07 PM
    dollarman
    Hav0k,
    Tread lightly with that whole 'friends' crap. I've heard it, tried it, then slowly it ended up as me doing all the work to maintain it.. so then I turned my back on her too. Not telling you what to do, but be careful.. no need to compromise the strength you've gained.
  • Jun 3, 2008, 12:09 PM
    dollarman
    Thanks starlite!
    Quite honestly though it's God carrying me through this. The power of prayer is amazing, and couple that with the awesome people here and it becomes almost exciting to be able to purposely not contact someone who hurt me like that. Missing him is normal, just remember you're doing great too! Don't forget that!
  • Jun 3, 2008, 12:36 PM
    starlite1
    Thank you! So are you! And you know? Prayer does work. I am not the most religious person by any means, but I talk with God everyday, and I know he hears all of us.

    Hey, I'm not sure if you saw the post or not, but we (us members) are planning a big get together where we can meet and hang out in person.

    Here is the post:

    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/relati...us-222453.html

    Whatcha think?
  • Jun 3, 2008, 03:19 PM
    dollarman
    I was hit with a moment of weakness. Just a lapse. I'm trying to snap out of it though. No urge to contact, I guess more of a sense of loss.
  • Jun 3, 2008, 03:38 PM
    hav0k
    Thanks for the responses sneeze, star and dollarman.

    Don't worry dollarman, I know very well not to delve into that friends crap. I tried it when we were on our break and she ended up completely screwing me over. Guess I learned that lesson...

    I ignored her today because I wanted her to know how F-ed up her actions were. At the same time though I don't want her to think I hate her forever. Ahhh dilemmas... I suppose it won't hurt to say Hi to her though.
  • Jun 3, 2008, 03:57 PM
    Shakedown24
    Its been two weeks for me, and after a weekend surrounded by some friends I feel like I'm hitting bottom again. I even had to convince myself to not call her.

    I keep wondering what she's doing, who she's with, whether she cares, and keep imagining her with another guy at bars, clubs, partying happily--these are the things she does.

    Its like I'm forgetting all the bad things she did and how unhappy I was in the relationship, and no matter how hard I try and remind myself, its just not strong enough to combat the feeling of lonliness and longing.

    I hate it, it's that feeling of being punched in the stomach you know, I get it so randomly, like today, I was just watching my favorite sitcom, which I do everyday while eating breakfast, and I kept getting bombarded with imagery of her with others and feelings of lonliness. I was doing quite all right for a solid week.

    I used to passify myself by reminding myself of my future (graduating soon) and the new friends I will meet next semester, but now even that stuff doesn't matter to me. I hate that I can't take control of myself.
  • Jun 3, 2008, 04:46 PM
    classicrocker
    Shake down, no one said this is easy, but just stay strong, I know what you mean when you say nothing else matters and for a time I believed myself when I would say it, but the truth is that there is at least one thing that matters and that is you my friend! Just stay strong and in time we're going to get through this!
  • Jun 3, 2008, 04:48 PM
    hjpan
    I am considering enlisting in the Army even though my mom does not approve.
  • Jun 3, 2008, 05:19 PM
    hav0k
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hjpan
    I am considering enlisting in the Army even though my mom does not approve.

    Why? Was this idea sparked by your breakup? If so I don't suggest following through on that...

    Funny thing is that thought went through my mind too but I quickly realized how bad of an idea it was (at least for me, could be different for you).
  • Jun 3, 2008, 05:35 PM
    zooropa1985
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hav0k
    Why? Was this idea sparked by your breakup? If so I don't suggest following through on that...

    Funny thing is that thought went through my mind too but I quickly realized how bad of an idea it was (at least for me, could be different for you).

    Hell me too, I thought joining the army would be a great way to get over a girl, luckily I came to my senses and now I'm glad I didn't join.

    No matter how bad you feel trust me the sorrow will pass
  • Jun 3, 2008, 05:39 PM
    hjpan
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zooropa1985
    hell me too, i thought joining the army would be a great way to get over a girl, luckily i came to my senses and now im glad i didnt join.

    no matter how bad you feel trust me the sorrow will pass


    I have an interest in future military career.

    At first, I talked to my ex and she was fine with me in the Army.

    After the break up, I was sparked to join; I could careless what reasons not to join.
  • Jun 3, 2008, 06:13 PM
    bigbird213
    Just don't make such a life changing state when you are in such an emotionally fragile state.

    I have been thinking about that path for a few years now, and I'll agree after the breakup the feelings and urges were stronger, but you need to know not to make these kind of decisions when your mind isn't at its healthiest.
  • Jun 3, 2008, 06:16 PM
    hjpan
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bigbird213
    Just don't make such a life changing state when you are in such an emotionally fragile state.

    I have been thinking about that path for a few years now, and I'll agree after the breakup the feelings and urges were stronger, but you need to know not to make these kind of decisions when your mind isn't at its healthiest.

    My choice is not fragile. I have been thinking about the military since winter 2007. Yes, the urge is strong but I have decided to enlist. All I need is to find time to put my schedule together so college plans do not interfere directly.
  • Jun 3, 2008, 06:19 PM
    bigbird213
    Good,

    I'm glad you have put a lot of thought into it.
  • Jun 3, 2008, 06:19 PM
    hjpan
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bigbird213
    Good,

    I'm glad you have put a lot of thought into it.

    Thank you =]
  • Jun 3, 2008, 06:20 PM
    starlite1
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Shakedown24
    Its been two weeks for me, and after a weekend surrounded by some friends I feel like im hitting bottom again. I even had to convince myself to not call her.

    I keep wondering what shes doing, who shes with, whether she cares, and keep imagining her with another guy at bars, clubs, partying happily--these are the things she does.

    Its like im forgetting all the bad things she did and how unhappy I was in the relationship, and no matter how hard I try and remind myself, its just not strong enough to combat the feeling of lonliness and longing.

    I hate it, its that feeling of being punched in the stomach ya know, I get it so randomly, like today, I was just watching my favorite sitcom, which i do everyday while eating breakfast, and I kept getting bombarded with imagery of her with others and feelings of lonliness. I was doing quite alright for a solid week.

    I used to passify myself by reminding myself of my future (graduating soon) and the new friends I will meet next semester, but now even that stuff doesnt matter to me. I hate that I can't take control of myself.


    Hi Shakedown,

    I know exactly how you are feeling. I am feeling the same way. It is killing me. I keep looking at my phone, and I want to dial his number and talk to him. I wonder what he is thinking, is he missing me? Is he still mad at me? Did/does he still mean that 'the ship has sailed'? I have no idea... but it is breaking my heart... the way he is and can easily write me off and shut his feelings and emotions off like a switch... I am so upset too...
  • Jun 3, 2008, 06:24 PM
    hjpan
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by starlite1
    Hi Shakedown,

    I know exactly how you are feeling. I am feeling the same way. It is killing me. I keep looking at my phone, and I want to dial his number and talk to him. I wonder what he is thinking, is he missing me? Is he still mad at me? Did/does he still mean that 'the ship has sailed'? I have no idea....but it is breaking my heart...the way he is and can easily write me off and shut his feelings and emotions off like a switch....I am so upset too....

    But do not consider the military route unless you have spent a good amount of time self-evaluating and receiving right information.

    I'm in the same boat as well~ I want to dial, but I refrain myself. It is hard, but I am persisting. On top of that, I told her that I WILL make myself famous and popular due to a good contribution to others and society.

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