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Originally Posted by Synnen

To pay devil's advocate with you...

I don't WANT socialized medicine. Absolutely not!

I like being able to choose my doctor, and being able to pay to get better care. Yes, it's expensive, but....so are lawsuits.

You want to drop the cost of medicine? Make it so that people can't sue their doctor because of simple human error. EVERYONE makes mistakes at their job. To be able to sue a doctor for malpractice because his judgement call was wrong means that they have to have higher malpractice insurance and therefore must charge more.

Once again, it goes back to personal accountability, and taking responsibility for your own life. If your doctor tells you that the mole is normal, you have the right to get a second or third or fourth opinion! You *shouldn't* have the right to sue him if he's wrong.

On the OTHER side of that coin--if doctors were not getting sued for every time they didn't save someone, then we could make the lawsuits that were left, the ones for gross negligence (like drinking before operating) MUCH more stringent, and break up the "good old boys" club of doctors that protect each other when stuff like that happens.

Let's throw this in there, too, then: If people in America took better care of themselves through diet, exercise and regular checkups, stopped smoking (because by now, who doesn't know it's bad for you?) and just generally took better care of their own bodies.....wouldn't health care costs come down?

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Remember New Orleans! Remember the VA hospitials! Very wise observation Synnen.

Having read just the first page of this thread with the stranger/pervert posts -- I find it hard to believe that you folks do not know that the majority of child abuses is committed by a family member or a guest in the home.

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Originally Posted by shygrneyzs

Important issues? As a parent of a child with severe disabilities - yes, I have some important issues. The government would rather my child be placed in a group home, that would cost the government at least $4000.00 dollars a month but they cannot give the parents any kind of funding to help keep the child home. They would rather burn out the parents then extend a hand. There are very limited programs for home care, long waiting periods for the those programs and inadequate hours of contracted services.

Yes, I care about the long term viability of the Earth - I just do not see the Earth being able to sustain life as we know it. Too many people using precious non-renewable resources.

The jails and prisons are full beyond belief - why is that? Are there really more criminals or are there fewer alternatives to punishments?

Politicians make a pretty darn good career out of being in Washington and coming back only when they want the voter's vote. Why do we continue to allow career politicans? Serve two terms and then come and get a job that reflects the average citizen - lose the perks and the bonuses and the PAC's.

I have many more, but I will stop here.

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Great post and you can add elder care also. -- Savage

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Originally Posted by TheSavage

Having read just the first page of this thread with the stranger/pervert posts -- I find it hard to believe that you folks do not know that the majority of child abuses is committed by a family member or a guest in the home.

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I think that is a known fact. But being able to arm yourself with as much knowledge of your surroundings is a good thing.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

It may be the case that many of us have families and things to do on the weekend.

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Touchy, Touchy!:o

Okay, I am going to give this thread a little "bump". And sense the weekend is over, needkarma, I can't wait to see what everyone has to say.

Maybe they've said all that is needed to say. Threads and subjects do not have an infinite life. People like channel surfing. :)

Wow you infinite wisdom is amazing.

Thank you. That's why I am well respected here.

I was really looking forward to read what gets you and how you would fix it.
Are you telling me that's not going to happen now? :(

Kids killing other kids with guns and nothing being done about it by the powers that be. So sad what has happened... again. Surely something has to be looked at with the gun laws in the US now?

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I think you're right. Everyone should have to carry one. How many would this nut have killed if they all had guns?

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Would have been like a good old fashioned shootout that John Wayne would have been proud of I imagine.

Once again... PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY!

Damn right there's a gun in my house.

Damn right I'd shoot to keep the right to have it.

The right to bear arms is JUST as important as freedom of speech. Just because some people abuse one of those rights doesn't mean everyone does.

Let's not blame the gun, or the fact that he had one. Let's blame the fact that no one taught him that killing is bad.

I'm glad my kids will go to a school where it is much harder for one of their class mates to get access to a weapon to blow their brains out than it is in th US. Just my opinion though. I know the right to bear arms is one of the most fundamental aspects of your constitution and I would not be in a position to argue with you that you shouldn't. As in your country it is your right. Once again I'm just glad it isn't where I am from that isn't the case.

I'm glad that more protection is offered to us than it simply coming down to personal responsibility as we all know that doesn't exist in the current world and it isn't going to change.

Well apparently this person was from China and only came to the us in Aug. 2006. I don't even know how this became a debate on gun control, it's about who we let into our country. We learned nothing from 911. But to tell the truth this whole thing is not adding up. Something is missing. This person had to have had some kind of military training. And they are saying that it was a domestic incident that started the whole thing. If so why would he shoot all these other people. Yet another mystery our government will continue to hide from us.

So its not about how he came to have a gun capable of killing 32 people but simply about why he was ever allowed in to your country? Oh my...

I just saw Bush on Cspam and he stated that it is Governments job to protect the people. Protect us from people with guns. Oh boy, wonder how they going to do that?

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So its not about how he came to have a gun capable of killing 32 people but simply about why he was ever allowed in to your country? Oh my......

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Yes, he obviously had some kind of mental defect. Do you not think that the government should screen who it allows, to enter the US. I mean after 911 don't you think that someone would have been paying attention.
There are so many guns in the us, that even discussing baning them is ludicrous.
Besides, anyone can make a bomb, or stab someone etc. etc.
I honestly don't even understand, how he was able to kill all those students with the two handguns the police are saying he had.
I mean yeah it makes you wonder where did he get these guns? Since I don't know if they were bought legally or illegally, I can't really comment. Simply put you will never stop someone in the US from getting a gun illegally, there are just too many of them and too many shady people willing to sell them. There are estimates that there are up to 150 million guns in the us. (most don't wear out or break, but are made to last almost forever) But there are allot more questions than that, such as why did the police not enter the building, why was there no alert put out after the first shooting, why was the student body not even notified. Could this have been an act of terrorism? That's about it for my rant.

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I just saw Bush on Cspam and he stated that it is Governments job to protect the people. Protect us from people with guns. Oh boy, wonder how they gonna do that?

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CSpam Very funny.

By shooting them with guns? Or by issuing everyone bulletproof armor?
Or by invading a random countries that no one really likes anyway, and getting all the nuts to go there and fight with the army? Or here is a good idea,
train them all to be assassins, and have them kill each other. Well I am all out of ideas I hope George W. sees this and likes at least one of them.