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  • Jun 3, 2010, 12:02 PM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by classyT View Post
    Kit,

    LOL....i know it.

    Hheath,

    you just think" OLD people drama" is the worst because you are closer to my sons age than MINE! :D UGH..i feel really old now.




    I'm older than dirt... :eek:
  • Jun 3, 2010, 12:05 PM
    classyT

    Kit,

    Because you put the number 22by your user name.. I think of you as 22. :)
  • Jun 3, 2010, 12:09 PM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by classyT View Post
    Kit,

    because you put the number 22by your user name..i think of you as 22. :)



    No.. way off... Maybe.. I'll pull out the old bell bottom jeans and my "Grateful Dead" tshirt and I can dream... :D
  • Jun 3, 2010, 12:21 PM
    hheath541
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by classyT View Post
    Kit,

    LOL....i know it.

    Hheath,

    you just think" OLD people drama" is the worst because you are closer to my sons age than MINE! :D UGH..i feel really old now.

    I was including myself as one of the old people. To a 12 year old, someone twice their age is old-ish.
  • Jun 3, 2010, 12:57 PM
    Aurora_Bell

    I was baby sitting for a friend, and her son is 7, and he asked if he could be my boyfriend. I told him I was 26, he told me I was "SUPER OLD"!! And said I didn't look that old. Lol.
  • Jun 3, 2010, 01:10 PM
    classyT

    Hheath,

    I know I am just jealous you are young and I am not.

    To kids anything over 20 is really OLD... so imagine how old I am. I turned 49 last week... I'm totally struggling with it... (sorry alty to highjack your thread) I'll shut up now.
  • Jun 3, 2010, 01:12 PM
    hheath541

    when my niece was really little (2-5) she had 6-7 'boyfriends.' they were all her boy cousins.

    that was around the same time that she randomly told her mom that she wasn't going to date until she's 16. Let's see if she keeps her word. She's 11 now ^_^
  • Jun 4, 2010, 05:23 AM
    shazamataz

    You let your 8 year old dress like a tramp, wearing mini skirts and make-up of course they are going to date boys when they are 10-14.

    It's not always the parents fault but some of them need to have a bloody good look in the mirror before they let their kids date.
    Heck, some of them should take a bloody good look at their KIDS before they let them out of the house!

    If I wore half the stuff kids these days are allowed to wear when I was 10 I would have been shot by my Dad.


    Yeah, I know, I didn't read back, my bad.
  • Jun 4, 2010, 12:44 PM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by shazamataz View Post
    You let your 8 year old dress like a tramp, wearing mini skirts and make-up of course they are going to date boys when they are 10-14.

    It's not always the parents fault but some of them need to have a bloody good look in the mirror before they let their kids date.
    Heck, some of them should take a bloody good look at their KIDS before they let them out of the house!

    If I wore half the stuff kids these days are allowed to wear when I was 10 I would have been shot by my Dad.


    Yeah, I know, I didn't read back, my bad.




    We need more parents like yours and mine Shaz.:)
  • Jun 4, 2010, 01:19 PM
    cdad

    The biggest problem I see is that children went from being seen and not heard to being stand out brats in society. Too many just don't get what's going on or what they are pushing their kids to do. Even superstores like Walmart gear up their clothing lines of inappropriate wear for the children's department. Its sad. There also has been an explosion of Pagents for children. And now its on Tv being promoted as something good? BULL!!

    Too many parents and society itself has forgotten how to say No! Kids need boundries and they will test those throughout their lifetimes. But again if you can't say no to them then there are no boundries. And that leads to confusion and the situation we are in today. Also the explosion of the internet and latchkey children has created an entire generation of TMI children. Its just plain wrong.
  • Jun 4, 2010, 01:31 PM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by califdadof3 View Post
    The biggest problem I see is that children went from being seen and not heard to being stand out brats in society. Too many just dont get whats going on or what they are pushing thier kids to do. Even superstores like Walmart gear up thier clothing lines of inappropriate wear for the childrens department. Its sad. There also has been an explosion of Pagents for children. And now its on Tv being promoted as something good? BULL !!!

    Too many parents and society itself has forgotten how to say No! Kids need boundries and they will test those thoughout thier lifetimes. But again if you can't say no to them then there are no boundries. And that leads to confusion and the situation we are in today. Also the explosion of the internet and latchkey children has created an entire generation of TMI children. Its just plain wrong.




    I agree Califdad... NO was the most used word in my vocabulary when I was raising my children... I think they stayed mad most of their High School years because I monitored what they wore, who they were friends with. They use to call me "The Warden... didn't bother me a bit... We had rules they followed them or there were consequences and they knew that. I was a mother , not a friend, they had a lot of those. They appreciate it now since three of them have kids of their own and now I am friends with my kids.
  • Jun 5, 2010, 05:29 AM
    thisisit

    Though I don't have any children under 14, I don't think 14yo and under should be dating. I personally don't think children under 17 or even 18 should date. When I was raising my children, I believed they had A LOT to learn about life before they were going to be ready and responsible enough to steer their lives in the directions of their choices. I had 4 children, so that meant a lot of work for me, teaching them how to meet challenges and overcome barriers or difficulties to get the job done.



    I did not think they were emotionally mature enough to become tangled in the emotional quagmire brought on by infatuations and acts of love enacted out by newly hormonal teens. When teens are allowed to freely date, many times their hopes and dreams drift away because they become so far side tracked that they lose sight of what they once envisioned for their lives. I told my children that I wanted them to be well on their way to living the life of their choice, on the path of their choice BEFORE they got tangled up in a love relationship, because once they did that, they would have to consider their partner and their partner's wishes on any direction they took. I wanted my children to be SURE of who they were and where they wanted their live to go before adding a partner.



    I think teenagers should be allowed to have friends of the opposite sex, but should be given no opportunity for the friendship to develop into anything more than just that. Parents should stay focused with their children and help their children stay focused on overcoming any obstacles and challenges that stand in the way of them reaching adulthood with their feet planted firmly on the ground, facing the direction they have chosen their lives go in, and with all the skills needed to accomplish their goals.



    Relationships take a lot of work. It is difficult enough to pave a way for yourself, but when you partner up with someone else, a child could become so side tracked that they never reach their goal. Add to that the possibility of life altering pregnancy and/or disease and it just doesn't seem worth the risk.

    This is just my opinion :)
  • Jun 5, 2010, 05:37 AM
    Aurora_Bell

    I just saw a leopard print bikini with one strap that went over one shoulder and gold clips on the bottoms... for BABIES!
  • Jun 5, 2010, 06:37 AM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Aurora_Bell View Post
    I just saw a leopard print bikini with one strap that went over one shoulder and gold clips on the bottoms... for BABIES!

    Im not sure which is more scary. Tha fact that they offer it or the fact that someone will buy it.
  • Jun 5, 2010, 07:45 AM
    Kitkat22

    Lord help us all!
  • Jun 5, 2010, 11:38 AM
    Homegirl 50

    And we wonder why they want to date at 10. Some mothers start planting the seed when they are babies.
    What mother in her right mind would dress her baby in such a thing?
  • Jun 5, 2010, 11:42 AM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Homegirl 50 View Post
    And we wonder why they want to date at 10. Some mothers start planting the seed when they are babies.
    What mother in her right mind would dress her baby in such a thing?




    A mother who cares more about appearances than the reprecussions of her actions.
  • Jun 5, 2010, 11:52 AM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Homegirl 50 View Post
    And we wonder why they want to date at 10. Some mothers start planting the seed when they are babies.
    What mother in her right mind would dress her baby in such a thing?

    This kind.

    http://tlc.discovery.com/tv/toddlers...nd-tiaras.html
  • Jun 5, 2010, 12:06 PM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by califdadof3 View Post




    That child's mother should be given a swift kick in the butt.:mad::mad:
  • Jun 5, 2010, 01:27 PM
    Homegirl 50

    That is shameful!
  • Jun 5, 2010, 01:35 PM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Homegirl 50 View Post
    That is shameful!!

    Not just that but they glorify it by putting it on TV. Thereby making it popular and the norm.
  • Jun 5, 2010, 01:39 PM
    Homegirl 50

    I would like to know what a mother who would parade her baby around like that is thinking.
  • Jun 5, 2010, 02:12 PM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Homegirl 50 View Post
    I would like to know what a mother who would parade her baby around like that is thinking.




    I believe most of these moms are trying to relive their childhood through their children.
  • Jun 5, 2010, 02:19 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kitkat22 View Post
    I believe most of these moms are trying to relive their childhood through their children.

    Not just that. They are trying to BE someone through their children. Many of these moms are at the low end of the education ladder, are not very bright, read paperback romances (only) and movie/TV magazines, are often overweight, are very concerned with their hair and nails and clothes as being who they are, and can't carry on conversations about anything but superficial matters. My brother is married to one.
  • Jun 5, 2010, 02:34 PM
    hheath541

    Many of them also either did pageants as a child, or wanted to.

    Then there's the mom who doesn't have a daughter, so she 'turns her boys into girls.'

    And the dad, that's so flamboyant he HAS to sh!t rainbows, who makes all his daughter's clothes and does her hair and make-up because he's always been interested in pageants.

    Yes, I watched the videos. Those parents have living dolls, NOT children.
  • Jun 5, 2010, 02:47 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hheath541 View Post
    and the dad, that's so flamboyant he HAS to sh!t rainbows, who makes all his daughter's clothes and does her hair and make-up because he's always been interested in pageants.

    Or the dad is a passive type who sits smiling vaguely on the sidelines and whose wife runs the show -- and his finances.
  • Jun 5, 2010, 03:01 PM
    hheath541
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    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Or the dad is a passive type who sits smiling vaguely on the sidelines and whose wife runs the show -- and his finances.

    There's one of those, too. He doesn't like the revealing clothes his 7 year old wears for the pageants, but his wife sees nothing wrong with it. She also sees nothing wrong with spray tans or shaving the girl's legs.
  • Jun 5, 2010, 03:10 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hheath541 View Post
    there's one of those, too. he doesn't like the revealing clothes his 7 year old wears for the pageants, but his wife sees nothing wrong with it. she also sees nothing wrong with spray tans or shaving the girl's legs.

    That's my brother, but not pageants -- a different venue in which Mom is enabling the daughters. If their girls were little and cute, they'd be in pageants.
  • Jun 5, 2010, 05:58 PM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    That's my brother, but not pageants -- a different venue in which Mom is enabling the daughters. If their girls were little and cute, they'd be in pageants.





    As long as these mothers can take home a trophy or revel in their kids accomplishments.. they don't feel it's wrong. Every time I see one of these kids on TV.. I think of little Jon Benet' Ramsey... What a horrible life that child must have led.
  • Jun 5, 2010, 06:16 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kitkat22 View Post
    As long as these mothers can take home a trophy or revel in their kids accomplishments..they don't feel it's wrong. Every time I see one of these kids on TV..I think of little Jon Benet' Ramsey...What a horrible life that child must have led.

    Her unchecked bedwetting was only one testament to that misery.
  • Jun 5, 2010, 06:38 PM
    Kitkat22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Her unchecked bedwetting was only one testament to that misery.








    I don't understand parents who would allow that child to dress up like a grownup. It haunts me sometimes because it hasn't taught mothers of these little pageant girls anything. I honestly believe some mothers would sell their soul to make their child a beauty queen winner.
  • Jun 5, 2010, 07:26 PM
    EmoPrincess

    WOW... just wow...

    And where I live, kids are REAL dating at 10

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