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  • Mar 17, 2008, 10:25 AM
    Synnen
    It's not the COST of condoms.

    It's the fact that they don't have to answer questions from their parents if they find baggies or aluminum foil in their rooms.
  • Mar 17, 2008, 10:29 AM
    Alty
    Good point. But still, aluminum foil, Ouch! No wonder they'd rather have unprotected sex, this might also explain why so many teenage girls are experiencing pain when having sex. I say again, aluminum foil, Ouch!
  • Mar 17, 2008, 05:19 PM
    jillianleab
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl
    aluminum foil were good subs for condoms.

    YEEOOOUUUCHHHH!!!! :eek:

    What the hell is the matter with people?? :confused:

    And I'd be willing to guess teen pregnancy might be down, but teen internet usage is up - that's why we have so many pregnant teens visiting us here...
  • Mar 17, 2008, 05:21 PM
    Alty
    Jillian - True, but what amazes me more is the fact that these teens obviously know how to use the internet, why not look up safe sex practices. Google and learn, it's not brain surgery.

    And I say again, aluminum foil, Ouch, full body shiver and not in a good way.
  • Aug 5, 2008, 08:02 AM
    MommaOmy
    I personally think that the Mothers and Fathers need to be more PRO-ACTIVE with There Children! I have 4 Children and my oldest is a 14 year old boy and I stalk him as he calls it! I check his myspace and monitor his phone calls and his friends as well.. I know the Good the bad and the UGLY of what is going on in his life... I see what the other kids are up too girls messing around with girls boys messing with boys and girls and boys having sexual relationships way earlier and earlier, no this is not a huge change from when I was a child (teen) but it is allot more of just not thinking of what may happen babies having babies, STD and mixing drugs into the hole thing its not fun to be a parent but it is our Duty as Mothers and Father to DO OUR JOB!! Teach our children Rite and Wrong! Dangers etc... When our Children where small we would say no don't touch the stove its hot!! Montior what they put in there mouth so they would not choke... I personally will watch over (stalk) as my teen puts it! All 4 of my children Till the day I die! Parental DUTY and LOVE!! Not an easy job but My job and Im happy to do it!
  • Aug 14, 2008, 02:09 AM
    0rphan
    Hi Altenweg,

    I think it's like everything else these days, teenagers do what ever when ever they like, knowing they are not going to be punished.

    Schools have no control, parents have no control and Police have more important issues,so it's a case of... don't tell me what to do,I'll do what I want with whom I want, there is nothing you can do about it, so... bleep bleep bleep off.


    Total lack of respect for themselves and everything around them.
  • Aug 14, 2008, 04:10 AM
    Credendovidis
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 0rphan
    Total lack of respect for themselves and everything around them.

    And if that is true : what can you conclude from that statement?
    Are it the teens, or is it the society in its entirety that is rotten to the core, and is the behavior of teens not simply a reflection of that?

    In my views any society that mainly focuses on it's own interests and needs is the cause of the problems you described...

    :rolleyes:

    ·
  • Aug 14, 2008, 10:57 AM
    0rphan
    HI Credendavidis,

    You can conclude from my previous statement that: things need to change regarding the upbringing of our children, who are the adults of the future.

    What ever they are taught when they are young is how they will lead their life in society when growing older, progressing from a cheeky child to an argumentative teenager and onto an aggressive adult.

    No, society is not rotten to the core yet, but if these young people have no respect or values or moral codes, eventually when all people are replaced by the teens of today, then society may very well be rotten to the core... it has to change now.

    The behavior of the teens are a reflection of various things: Their home life and the way parents are raising them.. our government, changing the rules in society regarding discipline... our police force knowing who the culprits are, regarding theft, arson, vandalism,muggings etc etc... not able to do a thing about it... a slap on the wrist is the usual and don't do it again lads,because it's too much paper work and what's the point they'll get a fine which won't be paid, plus there aren't enough police on the beat so...
    let off yet again... this has to stop

    Society has to have some form of order, it's like any thing... solid foundation... preparation... brilliant long lasting result.

    A child needs solid foundation that he can rely upon,knowing that it will show him the right way in life correcting him when he takes a wrong turn, not allowing him to continue on the wrong track which eventually will be his downfall... discipline is the key to a respectful society.

    just my opinion
  • Aug 16, 2008, 04:44 AM
    Credendovidis
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 0rphan
    No, society is not rotten to the core yet, but if these young people have no respect or values or moral codes, eventually when all people are replaced by the teens of today, then society may very well be rotten to the core.....it has to change now.

    I disagree. A society that allows nukes to be stockpiled, that allows and supports countries to be invaded on non-issue arguments, that focuses on personal wealth and gain, that allows - if not enforces - people to be living in a world above their means, that does not focus on the own poverty and need, nor on the poverty and need in the rest of the world, such a society is rotten to the core : that is a society that is rotten to it's core.

    A child needs solid foundation that he can rely upon. And that foundation starts with parents being there for their children, even if that requires one less car, one less holiday, one less purchase, or less available means for financing unnecessary luxury purchases.

    That that is the real cause of the mentioned problem is my opinion !

    :)
  • Aug 16, 2008, 05:08 AM
    0rphan
    Whilst I agree with your first paragraph , I'll also add that these decisions you speak off are government made, adults in society, which is exactly my point...

    The question being... why are so many teens getting pregnant ?

    My opinion is stated on previous post ,which I stand by... discipline
  • Aug 16, 2008, 10:32 AM
    Synnen
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Credendovidis
    I disagree. A society that allows nukes to be stockpiled, that allows and supports countries to be invaded on non-issue arguments, that focuses on personal wealth and gain, that allows - if not enforces - people to be living in a world above their means, that does not focus on the own poverty and need, nor on the poverty and need in the rest of the world, such a society is rotten to the core : that is a society that is rotten to it's core.

    A child needs solid foundation that he can rely upon. And that foundation starts with parents being there for their children, even if that requires one less car, one less holiday, one less purchase, or less available means for financing unnecessary luxury purchases.

    That that is the real cause of the mentioned problem is my opinion !

    :)

    I'd like to point out that it's ALSO a society that has such things as:
    Big Brothers Big Sisters
    Habitat for Humanity
    People who feed and shelter the homeless
    The Salvation Army
    Toys for Tots
    And hundreds and thousands of volunteers for pretty much any kind of need you can think of.

    You may not always SEE the good, because it is not as focused on as the bad by the media, but it's there. For example, a group of people I work with and I donate to the Domestic Abuse shelter all of the "free" part of the "buy one get one free" deals at the grocery store. What the shelter can't use goes to the soup kitchen down the street. I know pretty much everyone on this board gives to someone or something to help.

    So... it's not ALL evilness and selfishness. It's the fact that we have an entire generation of kids that ANYONE could be in Little League, or make the football team, or could be a cheerleader, because we can't EXCLUDE anyway. It's a generation of "No Child Left Behind", and of kids expecting everything to be fair ALL of the time. Lack of personal responsibility for anything runs rampant, and THAT is the true vice of today's society.
  • Aug 16, 2008, 08:03 PM
    Credendovidis
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Synnen
    So...it's not ALL evilness and selfishness.

    I never suggested that. I stated that such a society is rotten to the core.
    And when the shoe fits...

    ===

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Orphan
    My opinion is stated on previous post ,which i stand by.....discipline

    Discipline requires parential involvement. As I stated :

    "A child needs solid foundation that he can rely upon. And that foundation starts with parents being there for their children, even if that requires one less car, one less holiday, one less purchase, or less available means for financing unnecessary luxury purchases. That (lacking parential involvement) is the real cause of the mentioned problem in my opinion !"

    :rolleyes:

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  • Aug 16, 2008, 09:46 PM
    Alty
    I have to say that as a mother I'm doing everything I can to prepare my kids to make good choices in their lives. Will they always do what I say, definitely not, some things must be learned from first hand experience, trial and error.

    Having said that, I talk to them, let them know that they can talk to me about anything, everything, no matter what. Will I get mad, I'm sure I will, but I will listen and I will give them support. My hope, when they are about to do something they hear my voice in their head and hopefully they listen to it.

    I was no angel when I was younger, but it wasn't because I had bad parents, in fact, I had wonderful parents, couldn't have asked for better. They were supportive, loving, kind and caring. I pulled the wool over their eyes many times, I wish I could take it all back, but what's done is done. I got lucky, others weren't so lucky.

    What I'm trying to say with this thread, well, teens today don't seem to know anything about the consequences of sex. We recently had a teen ask if she could become pregnant because she and her boyfriend had oral sex. We have tons of teens that think that the "pull out" method works. Were is sex education? Do we really think that teaching abstinence in schools is going to work? I think that the proof is in the pudding, maybe the educators should come on this site and see how well their teaching is working.

    Sorry, vent, just answered another "Could I be pregnant" thread, it's getting old fast. :(
  • Aug 16, 2008, 09:49 PM
    N0help4u
    Exactly what I have been saying. Sex education in schools seems to have gotten to be something the schools condone and encourage, They push it in the classrooms and keep the parents in the dark encouraging them to not inform their parents.
  • Aug 17, 2008, 06:32 AM
    0rphan
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N0help4u
    Exactly what I have been saying. Sex education in schools seems to have gotten to be something the schools condone and encourage, They push it in the classrooms and keep the parents in the dark encouraging them to not inform their parents.


    Yes I agree there Nohelp... I must be getting old because when I was at school, you just didn't mention sex openly, there was lots of sniggering behind the toilets kind of thing, but that was it.

    Now it's talked about like an every day occurrence, it's deemed to be cool if you do it especially with the latest hot guy on the scene. Many kids come in where I work majority with babies, they can't be any older than 14/15, their mates laughing and joke around even to the point of taking the babies into the local pub which is now open 24 hours, a baby these days seems to be a street cred' thing.They drag it along like it's the latest fashion accessary, never any mention of the Dad though I notice.

    I know society moves onwards and upwards but as far as this issue is concerned not for the better.
    I always thought a sexual relationship was private between 2 people who love each other, But it seems it's just something else on offer after a night on the town... ok call me old fashioned but I find that really sad.


    Bye for now
  • Aug 17, 2008, 08:39 AM
    Allheart
    I'm not quite sure what the answer is. I am not even sure if there is a rise in teenanger pregancy. Perhaps it's just more noticeable now, I don't know.

    My mom had 5 girls and let me tell you, none of us got pregnant or even had sex to we were well out of the house. Mom would go on and on and on, and most times I hand no clue what in the God's name she was talking about.

    We didn't have sex ed in school. But if I were a parent, frankly, I would not want to leave that subject up to them. I would want to be the one to teach my young girl the value of her body, and if it were my son, I would teach him to value girls and all that goes with it.

    Thankfully I was so shy during those years, the last thing on my mind was sex with a boy.
    I had so much preaching in my head between Mom and school, and I saw the sad results of when girls did get pregnant, and the anquish they suffered, I just didn't get why girls so young would put themselves in such a position.

    Mom was the best birth control that I needed and I don't think it would have had the same impact if I got it in school. She clearly stated how she felt about young girls having such and that part of it I did understand. Her methods may have been harsh, but all 5 of us got the message and adhered to her warnings.

    If I were a parent, quite frankly, I want the teachings coming from home, and I would be furious if they gave my child a condomn or some other sort of birth control. That is not their job, that would be mine and mine alone. Their job is to teach, math, science and the like, morals and personal responsibility have to start and be taught in the home.

    I will say in high school they showed us a production about abortion and it was horrifying, but that's the closest they came to any type of sex ed. And quite frankly, after all these years, that teaching still is implanted in my mind and heart.

    I also remember going to parties, and my girlfriends who were dating, and soon as they left the room, their boyfriends were canvasing the other girls in the room, as that is what young boys do, with those hormones raging. I would sit there and think, you've got to be kidding me. And that pretty much turned me off as I could see what Mom meant at that point " Boys at that age are really only interested in one thing". That may not be entirely true, but it was enough for me to say, "Sorry, I am just too valuable for you to want to use because you can't think straight".
  • Aug 17, 2008, 08:46 AM
    N0help4u
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 0rphan
    Yes i agree there Nohelp.....i must be getting old because when i was at school, you just didn't mention sex openly, there was lots of sniggering behind the toilets kind of thing, but that was it.

    Now it's talked about like an every day occurrence, it's deemed to be cool if you do it especially with the latest hot guy on the scene. Many kids come in where i work majority with babies, they can't be any older than 14/15, their mates laughing and joke around even to the point of taking the babies into the local pub which is now open 24 hours, a baby these days seems to be a street cred' thing.They drag it along like it's the latest fashion accessary, never any mention of the Dad though i notice.

    I know society moves onwards and upwards but as far as this issue is concerned not for the better.
    I always thought a sexual relationship was private between 2 people who love each other, But it seems it's just something else on offer after a night on the town.........ok call me old fashioned but i find that really sad.

    Bye for now

    I agree it is not always for the better. Sex education is a lot of indoctrinating kids to look at sex as nothing more than an urge to follow with protection. They start them out way early putting condoms of produce and telling them basically in so many words 'if it feels good (to the both of you) do it'
  • Aug 17, 2008, 12:55 PM
    Synnen
    Are you people kidding?

    Sex education in the schools these days has so little to do with protection it's not even funny. The "Abstinence based" education is an absolute failure--not because the schools are teaching "if it feels good, protect yourself and do it" but because they're doing the opposite "don't do it! don't do it! don't do it!"

    As far as I'm concerned, it should be a JOINT effort--both the schools and the parents. The schools should teach the most up to date forms of birth control and EXACTLY how they're used, along with the side effects. Schools should also be the ones to give the statistics on STDs, and the symptoms of them. The reason I say the schools for these things is that it's easier to get that sort of information to schools than to all of the parents in the school.

    The MORAL aspect of sex ed--WHY you shouldn't have sex before whenever (whether that's marriage, or age 18, or "you're out of my house")--should be up to the parent. I absolute do NOT want schools to teach my kids morals, and I'll admit it's because I don't want my kids grounded solely in Christian morals which tend to be limiting in many ways. I plan to teach my kids by EXAMPLE why it's good to respect your body, and to understand what the consequences are to living in my home if they come home pregnant.

    The problem isn't really the schools or the parents, you know.

    The problem is that these girls KNOW they can afford to keep their babies if they get pregnant. WIC and food stamps and subsidized housing, and free day care while they're in school and scholarships for college--hell, who Wouldn't want to get pregnant young and get all that stuff when you're starting, rather than waiting until you're older and have to pay for it all by yourself?

    Honestly--it's not that sex and pregnancy by teens is really any higher than it used to be (I've got that stats for that somewhere), but the rate of unmarried teens giving birth has gone up from 15% to 75% since 1960 (got that from the CDC http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/reprint/283/3/326.pdf ), but honestly---I wonder if the rate of happy marriages has changed in that time? I know MY parents love each other, but they also got married because they "had to" when my mom got pregnant with me. So do we go back to people HAVING to get married when they get pregnant, and stop making divorce so easy to get? I mean, you didn't have as many unplanned pregnancies OR as many abortions OR as many single moms in 1960!

    So... is the solution to just make it harder to walk away from the person you're having sex with?
  • Aug 24, 2008, 03:06 AM
    Credendovidis
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Synnen
    Are you people kidding?

    It seems so... Sex education at many - if not most - schools is in validity similar to the Roman Catholic Church telling believers that you should have sex only after you are married : totally unrealistic.

    At least schools should educate the pupils from the most recent and possible realistic views, though of course include clear moral and ethical considerations in their lessons just as well.

    :)
  • Sep 1, 2008, 01:35 AM
    bubbletea123
    The sex education I've received from my middle school and high school actually all focused a lot on birth control, and we didn't really talk about abstinence. Like, the teachers told us what it was but we focused so much on different forms of birth control.

    I remember in grade 9 (3 years ago) everyone had to write detailed reports on almost every form of birth control like the male/female condom, the pill, the IUD, Depo-Provera, the patch, the one that looked like matchsticks in the arm (hmm I actually forgot the name), permanent methods etc. We had to know all the side effects and pros and cons of each type. We also wrote essays on topics such as "Even though Depo-Provera is the most effective form of birth control, why isn't it used as widely?" We were definitely informed about safe sex. We did the condom on the cucumber thing as well. The teacher also showed us TONS of videos on STD's that really disgusted everyone, like penises with fungus and warts. The birth videos of a baby coming out of a real vagina was scary as well. There were also a lot of projects involving case scenarios of teens approached with problems involving sex and we had to write long paragraphs on how he/she should solve the issue along with the consequences.

    That sex ed probably did somewhat help because I've never encountered a pregnant teen in any of my schools or know any. I don't think the media has affected people in my school much since here in Canada almost all shows we see on T.V. are American and many of us do think they're cooler than us! Anyway, a lot of people in my school joke about sex all the time but it's actually a really big deal when someone actually has been involved in something sexual. Like I know a lot of people would be like "O_O She's touched a penis?! Wow I can never look at her the same way again!!" I don't know, I mean maybe people keep quiet about having sex but I know it is definitely not something they are proud of. Most guys I know are turned off by girls who aren't virgins.

    As you can see on my other posts, I am against teen sex all the way. I've never had sex but I've actually had nightmares of being pregnant two times and it was so horrible. I can't imagine how it would be like if it was in real life. I am a teen myself (well for two more years) and I can't imagine myself being a mother in any way, even during the next few years when I'm in university. I'm really glad that my boyfriend of 4+ years and I haven't been involved in anything like that, and we want to keep it that way until we're out of university. Well, maybe a bit earlier since I'll be like 30 by then.

    I'm surely not an expert but from what I've experienced, enforcing abstinence too much doesn't seem like a good idea. My health teachers always say things like "We can't stop them, so if they're gonna do it anyways, it's better if they do it and remain STDless and babyless."
  • Sep 1, 2008, 07:42 AM
    SweetDee
    Did you say that you had unprotected sex and might be pregnant? Then you stated later that you are here to tell all teens not to have unprotected sex... hmmm, OK then.

    Well the message is a good one. Having unprotected sex is stupid. You just need to be on contraception like birth control and then you have no worries. Just be prepared. If you think you want to have sex, get of b.c.'s. OR carry condoms... it's not just the dudes job to make sure you are "equipped", after all it's your body he's using atm. Hopefully he'll still love you after he's through.

    Girls have sex for different reasons than boys. Girl do it for love... boys do not. Boys do it for sex. Sex feels good... and boys are horny little bastards... with one thing on their minds. If you do decide to go through w/ having sex as a teen, just do it for selfish reasons and don't be blind... anything can happen once it's over. You may not always like the results. Try to be a new teen... like 13-14.. because that's gross!
  • Sep 1, 2008, 10:00 AM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SweetDee
    Did you say that you had unprotected sex and might be pregnant? Then you stated later that you are here to tell all teens not to have unprotected sex...hmmm, ok then.
    Well the message is a good one. Having unprotected sex is stupid. You just need to be on contraception like birth control and then you have no worries. Just be prepared. If you think you want to have sex, get of b.c.'s. OR carry condoms...it's not just the dudes job to make sure you are "equipped", after all it's your body he's using atm. Hopefully he'll still love you after he's through.

    Girls have sex for different reasons than boys. Girl do it for love...boys do not. Boys do it for sex. Sex feels good...and boys are horny little bastards...with one thing on their minds. If you do decide to go through w/ having sex as a teen, just do it for selfish reasons and don't be blind...anything can happen once it's over. You may not always like the results. Try to be a new teen...like 13-14..cuz that's gross!

    SweetDee, did you even read her post? She is a virgin and plans to keep it that way. She's had nightmares about being pregnant, she isn't pregnant, no chance of that.

    My suggestion SweetDee, read before you respond.

    Also, calling all boys "horny little bastards" well, that's insulting. Not all boys are only after one thing, in fact, I've met allot of young men on this site and in person that are waiting for love, so please, don't lump everyone into one group.

    New teen? What?

    This whole post made me cringe. :(
  • Sep 1, 2008, 11:35 AM
    bubbletea123
    SweetDee, you clearly did not read my post well. I don't get what you meant by "try to be a new teen".
  • Sep 1, 2008, 11:50 AM
    Alty
    Bubbletea, I don't understand that part either.

    I think that you are doing just fine, and that waiting is a great idea. Too many teens nowadays don't respect the step to become sexually active, they don't understand the consequences, they treat it like a game. Well, if it is a game, it's russian roullette, and that's a very dangerous game indeed.

    Keep doing what you're doing, because you're on the right track. :)
  • Sep 7, 2008, 01:23 PM
    Myth
    I know I'm a bit late on this thread but I just feel the need to post anyway...

    I don't think the epidemic is based in schools or parental failure but the failure of society in general. We are all a product of our societies. Even if a teen goes to church every week and does their bible study there is still a very high risk that that teen, be it a girl or boy, have sex because in a lot of religions they teach you that god will forgive all your sins if you just ask. While I believe he will it's not an excuse or permission if you will for them to go out and have sex. Now as far as the parents go, typically in a two parent family with both working parents they don't have the time to have a stay at home parent and honestly with the economy the way it is who?? Can afford it? The schools teaching the kids sex ed. That really doesn't work either. I knew more about sex by the time they started teaching it than the older woman teaching the subject. There is a failure here and it's the failure of society and can't be blamed on any one person or group. While yes we learn good morals from our parents we also learn bad. I remember the mention of the 80's decade as being the decade where we see the most change. I think I know the reason for that. The children of that era had to grow up fast. They for the most part raised their parents. From my own personal experience I raised not only my siblings but my mother as well. As for a father figure... pick on. My mother was very heavily into drugs and brought home many men. I grew up quiet quickly... too quickly. I started having sex by the time I was 11. Not something I'm proud of but something that happened for a reason. Honestly I think that this reason is why this epidemic is hitting us now... I didn't feel loved... Yes, this is from my 11yr old memory. There was never anyone their to hear that I needed a hug... Never anyone there to be my shoulder when I had my heart broken... I turned sex into that love that I was missing. I was one of the lucky ones. I didn't get pregnant till I was 18. Now let me put this in perspective... We have at least one parent if not two working and busy with that. We have the horrible t.v. programming that our children are bombarded with. We have the larger classes and the less one on one time in the schools and all the budget cuts and the class cuts... Where are our children supposed to go for answers.. Church, yes they could... but then their *no offense here* is even the failure of our most trusted church leaders that have been lead astray... So where do the kids go? To each other, to the net... where with the wealth of information, most of it is wrong. So what do we do then? We start at home. We start from scratch. I didn't have a great example of parenthood growing up so I'm starting over... My mistakes are what my children will learn from. We have all failed. It's time to stop blaming others and look to the future... What can we change? How can we educate? How can we provide that shoulder that most don't have? These are just my thoughts and opinions... I'm sorry if I've offended anyone but I just couldn't sit here and read the accusations and not speak up. I hope for the sake of our children and grandchildren that we find a way to make some changes. As for me... I'm starting from scratch... I'm starting at home.
  • Oct 4, 2008, 07:18 PM
    Pringles407
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Synnen View Post
    We could do a couple of things to stop the teen birth rate.

    1. Go back to the old ways that you MARRIED when you knocked someone up/got knocked up, and you STAYED married, til death. Period. When people realize that they don't get the option of walking away from the other person if it "doesn't work out" and that your "happiness" has NOTHING to do with raising a kid, providing for the child is the most important thing--well, that's a pretty big incentive to keep your pants zipped.

    2. Mandatory birth control, both male and female, starting at age 10, and proceding until you can pass a test proving you'd be able to provide for a child AND would be a decent parent.

    3. Get rid of all Welfare programs. If you had the choice of watching your child starve or choosing adoption--well, a whole bunch of "poor, infertile couples who desperately want to raise a baby" would get that chance.

    Are you kidding me? Seriously?. Go back to the old ways that you MARRIED when you knocked someone up/got knocked up, and you STAYED married, until death? I got pregnant at seventeen, and the boy that got me pregnant was my entire life for three years prior to the conception of my baby. If I had married him, my child would end up with a horrible life. There is no reason to get married that young. If you're in love with the person than you can wait until you're at least 18. Finding out I was pregnant was the best thing that ever happened to me. I realized that my boyfriend at the time was complete scum and that if I stayed with him, my child and I would have to suffer for the rest of our lives. She would have grown up watching us fight constantly, never ever happy. Is that really how you think kids should be brought up?

    And getting rid of welfare programs is completely unfair to the unfortunate mothers who had jobs but were let go and end up being poor. Are you trying to say that lower class people should not have the luxury of having families? Are you trying to tell me that you think anyone who can't afford a family should wither and die alone? You are ridiculous.

    Don't get me wrong, I completely agree that too many teens are getting pregnant. I think SOMETHING should be done to stop this. But, I think that everything YOU said, It completely moronic. Sorry.
  • Oct 4, 2008, 08:31 PM
    Bural21

    I'm 17 and a senior in high school, a tiny tiny high school... the high school in the town over has over 20 pregnant, or already given birth girls (the ratio is something like 1:35). And my school has had 4 (the ratio is something like 1:75). It's disgusting, the amount of girls getting pregnant at such a young age. I just don't get it. They make condoms and pills, why aren't they using them more? And, I wish that our school would allow the sex education teachers to teach about birth control, we all can't be abstinent, as much as people wish for it to be that way.
  • Oct 4, 2008, 08:48 PM
    Alty

    Bural, you do realize that even birth control isn't 100% effective, even if you use the pill and a condom, you could still become pregnant.

    In other words, if you don't want a baby, don't have sex, it's as simple as that. :)
  • Oct 4, 2008, 08:57 PM
    Bural21
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Altenweg View Post
    Bural, you do realize that even birth control isn't 100% effective, even if you use the pill and a condom, you could still become pregnant.

    In other words, if you don't want a baby, don't have sex, it's as simple as that. :)

    I understand, completely. However, we as teenagers should at least know our options shall we choose to engage in sex.
  • Oct 4, 2008, 09:00 PM
    Pringles407
    Altenweg, are you actually trying to say that you think all teenagers should be abstinent? Cause I've read a lot of your posts from this topic, and I thought you wanted to find a way to help teenage girls so that they would not become pregnant, but if you really think telling them to stay abstinent is going to work, you're full of yourself. I'm not trying to be a , but it's the truth.
  • Oct 4, 2008, 11:14 PM
    Alty

    Pringles. I'm full of myself? Why, because I actually care about these teens? Yes I want to help teens not get pregnant. You do realize that the only way to prevent pregnancy 100% is abstinence, right?

    Stick around, read some of the pregnancy threads, the teen threads, maybe then you'll realize why I'm concerned.

    Most of the teens that come to this site are sleeping with a different guy every night, or more than one. They think it's all a game, until they're pregnant, then they come here asking for advice. Too late, the buns in the oven, nothing we can do now.

    Sex education is a joke. And yes, birth control is better than nothing at all. If only teens could be trusted to use it all the time. Another thing we get a lot of. "I'm on the pill, but I forgot to take it for 5 days, and my boyfriend and I had sex and he didn't use a condom. Can I get pregnant?" I've got news for you, even if you had taken your pill regularly and used a condom, you could still get pregnant, but yes, missing your pills has definitely increased the odds.

    I was a very promiscuous teen, but I got lucky. Today's teens seem to be worse than I was back in the day, which is pretty darn scary.

    So, yes, abstinence is the only sure fire way of preventing pregnancy and STD's. A 14 year old has no business having sex, no matter how "protected" they are.

    If you don't want a baby or an STD, then don't have sex. It's really that simple.

    If you want to do adult things, then you better be ready for adult consequences.
  • Oct 5, 2008, 09:21 AM
    Synnen

    I'm moronic for making people actually take the consequences for their actions?

    YOU are obviously from the newest generation of adults if you think that people shouldn't have to!

    I, too, got pregnant at 17 to a guy that was my whole world for 3 years. I, too, realized that there was no future with this guy, and that really--I was in the beginning stages of an abusive relationship (cutting me off from friends and family, calling me names, setting the blame for everything on me, etc).

    *I* chose adoption. *I* chose to get away from that guy, and to not be a burden on my family (who could not afford to have another mouth to feed) or on society (who really shouldn't pay the penalty for MY mistakes). I also knew that there was no way I wanted my child growing up in the lower class area I grew up in, and never having new clothes that didn't come from charity, and never having toys that didn't come from an Adopt-a-family Christmas package---I chose to give my child a better life than that. And THEN I went on to make a better life for myself.

    NOW--I'm unable to get pregnant. I gave away the only chance at having a child I'll ever have. I don't regret it, though it makes me very sad at times. The REASON I don't regret it is that it made me grow up very fast getting pregnant with her, and making choices that involved her whole LIFE in just the 9 months I was pregnant---but because of that, she and I BOTH had better lives than we would have if I'd've kept her.

    YES, teens should have to make those tough choices---and NO, Welfare shouldn't be an option that's as easy as it is.

    My sister has 5 kids from an extremely abusive marriage. Since he's in jail, there's no child support, and since her family is all hours away from her (she stayed in our hometown, and my parents and I have had to leave because of employment), she's extremely pressed for money each month to make ends meet. Without Welfare, she wouldn't be able to make it. Period. She's also an extreme case--and she STILL tries to depend more on herself and her church before ASKING for help from the state each month. She ALSO had her kids during a marriage, AFTER she was out of high school and had a job and all that jazz.

    So yes--unemployed, underaged women who get pregnant SHOULD have to live with that, whether that means they get nothing but medical care for their child from the state, and EVERYTHING else comes out of pocket, even if that means 3 jobs and no time with the child, or marriage to the guy that was FINE to have sex with but not so great for marrying so that he's forced to help with that burden as well, or choosing to give their child to someone better equipped mentally and financially to raise a child through adoption.

    I'm just tired of paying for stupid little girls who can't follow the directions on their birth control or who were too busy passing notes in sex ed to pay attention to have kids, when there's no WAY the taxpayers would front the $20-$60k for me to get pregnant through IVF. Why SHOULD we pay for those kids? Adoption is a perfectly viable option for people who can't afford their kids, and there are tens of thousands of people waiting ot adopt.

    And please--I know how hard it is to place the child you love into someone else's arms, so let's not go with the "unloving witch" attack when you respond, hmmmm? I think it's more a matter of how strong you are, not a matter of how much you love your child.
  • Jan 28, 2010, 06:13 PM
    tarag89
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jillianleab View Post
    Teens think they are invincible. It's the same reason they engage in other reckless behavior like drugs, sneaking out of the house, etc. They think, "It won't happen to me" And honestly, for most it doesn't. Most teens who engage in such reckless activities escape harm and turn out a-ok in their adult life. That's not to say their activities should be condoned, but it certainly helps with your world view when you and all your friends are having sex and doing drugs and nothing bad happens.

    I blame parents, by the way. It all starts at home... (in most cases, anyway)

    I do have to agree with you on the parents being to blame. I myself when threw a really tough time as a teenager I got pregnant at 15 was kicked out and living on my own at sixteen and in that time I did a lot of stupid things. What I did cost me custody of my son and to this day I'm still fighting for him. For a while I blamed my home life the fact that my moms an alcoholic and my dads a drug addict, but when I sit and think, I'm the one that made the path I was on no one else. I'm the only person to blame for what I did and these teenagers should be to. There parents are not making them have sex let alone unprotected sex. There not making them do drugs, and there not making them drink. These kids need to take responsibility for there actions and stop blaming other people. And your right teenagers do seem to think that there invincible but it's us adults that need to show them that its not OK to do what there doing and to try and help them make the right decision.
    I don't know how anyone else feels about this but I feel that we need to set better examples for our own children and maybe they won't make the mistakes that we have made.
  • Feb 4, 2010, 06:44 AM
    icandy

    The parents are part of the problem. I was talking to a woman I know the other day and she was saying how she had to sign a form for her daughter to have a sex ed class at school. She said she didn't want strangers talking to her children about sex, because they would also be talking about same sex relationships. I ask her what she had told her daughter about sex and her answer was the same thing my mom told me. "If you bring a baby home you're out of here". Needless to say I had no further comments for her.

    All I have to say to parents is the more you forbid something the more they want it. There is always going to be pressure from friends and it is better to educate than to forbid.
  • Mar 9, 2010, 11:33 AM
    CapriceeBabyyxxx
    Hiya my name is Caprice I am 12and I've had sex without a condom about 5 times now . But my mum and dad made me get an implant so I don't get preagant but they still seid to use a condom so I won't catch anything , I do what a baby when I'm 15 and I don't care what anyone says or thinks about me I've allways wanted kids since the age off 9 but I only started having sex when I'm 12 my age now. I just want to say to all teen girls out there that even though I havant had a baby I have had a virtel baby are they put the level up to screaming and I felt like I was on my own and I went out shopping with it in a pushcair and it broke on me and the bags broke and I know how you teen mothers feel , it is hard work and I've seen on the internt about this girl aged 11 preagant and she smokes 20 fags a day and has been drinking cider and beer and stuff like that from the age off 9 and its bad , because lately people from the age of 10 ! Witch is horroring at that age , and getting preagant and keeping a baby , a child can not look arfter a child. And I think it can be there mother and fathers falut for letting there child smoke 20 fags a day and be 5 months preagant its just wrong and children shouldn't be having sex at there age. X love caprice x
  • Mar 9, 2010, 11:35 AM
    CapriceeBabyyxxx
    Hiya my name is Caprice I am 12and I've had sex without a condom about 5 times now . But my mum and dad made me get an implant so I don't get preagant but they still seid to use a condom so I won't catch anything , I do what a baby when I'm 15 and I don't care what anyone says or thinks about me I've allways wanted kids since the age off 9 but I only started having sex when I'm 12 my age now. I just want to say to all teen girls out there that even though I havant had a baby I have had a virtel baby are they put the level up to screaming and I felt like I was on my own and I went out shopping with it in a pushcair and it broke on me and the bags broke and I know how you teen mothers feel , it is hard work and I've seen on the internt about this girl aged 11 preagant and she smokes 20 fags a day and has been drinking cider and beer and stuff like that from the age off 9 and its bad , because lately people from the age of 10 ! Witch is horroring at that age , and getting preagant and keeping a baby , a child can not look arfter a child. And I think it can be there mother and fathers falut for letting there child smoke 20 fags a day and be 5 months preagant its just wrong and children shouldn't be having sex at there age. X love caprice x
    :o
  • Mar 9, 2010, 11:38 AM
    Synnen
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CapriceeBabyyxxx View Post
    Hiya my name is Caprice i am 12and ive had sex without a condom about 5 times now . but my mum and dad made me get an implant so i dont get preagant but they still seid to use a condom so i wont catch anything , i do what a baby when im 15 and i dont care what anyone says or thinks about me ive allways wanted kids since the age off 9 but i only started having sex when im 12 my age now. i just want to say to all teen girls out there that even though i havant had a baby i have had a virtel baby are they put the level up to screaming and i felt like i was on my own and i went out shopping with it in a pushcair and it broke on me and the bags broke and i know how you teen mothers feel , it is hard work and ive seen on the internt about this girl aged 11 preagant and she smokes 20 fags a day and has been drinking cider and beer and stuff like that from the age off 9 and its bad , because lately people from the age of 10 ! witch is horroring at that age , and getting preagant and keeping a baby , a child can not look arfter a child. and i think it can be there mother and fathers falut for letting there child smoke 20 fags a day and be 5 months preagant its just wrong and children shouldnt be having sex at there age. x love caprice x


    While this thread is 2 years old, I just HAVE to respond to this.

    Do you have ANY idea of the irony of your post?

    YOU are a child! You shouldn't be having sex! You should most DEFINITELY not get pregnant at age 15! How will you support that child? YOUR mommy and daddy shouldn't be responsible for YOUR baby--do you have a job? Insurance? A car?

    You're right---a child cannot look after a child, and children should not be having sex.

    That's why most places have age of consent laws set to be at LEAST 16, and ADULTHOOD set at age 18.

    When you're 18, you get to stop being a child.

    Stop having sex, and FORGET the baby thing. You know absolutely NOTHING about it. Why tie yourself down before you've even lived?
  • Mar 9, 2010, 10:37 PM
    Gemini54
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CapriceeBabyyxxx View Post
    Hiya my name is Caprice i am 12and ive had sex without a condom about 5 times now . but my mum and dad made me get an implant so i dont get preagant but they still seid to use a condom so i wont catch anything , i do what a baby when im 15 and i dont care what anyone says or thinks about me ive allways wanted kids since the age off 9 but i only started having sex when im 12 my age now. i just want to say to all teen girls out there that even though i havant had a baby i have had a virtel baby are they put the level up to screaming and i felt like i was on my own and i went out shopping with it in a pushcair and it broke on me and the bags broke and i know how you teen mothers feel , it is hard work and ive seen on the internt about this girl aged 11 preagant and she smokes 20 fags a day and has been drinking cider and beer and stuff like that from the age off 9 and its bad , because lately people from the age of 10 ! witch is horroring at that age , and getting preagant and keeping a baby , a child can not look arfter a child. and i think it can be there mother and fathers falut for letting there child smoke 20 fags a day and be 5 months preagant its just wrong and children shouldnt be having sex at there age. x love caprice x
    :o

    :: I'm speechless :: :eek:

    I could say a million things, but I'm lost for words at the horror of it all.
  • Mar 10, 2010, 12:45 AM
    shazamataz

    Wowzer!

    How can a 12 year old say that they really want a baby and they are responsible, yet then turn around in the same paragraph and say it's just wrong for children to have babies... What the... :confused:
  • Mar 10, 2010, 12:43 PM
    CapriceeBabyyxxx

    Look I understand what you lot are saying but the thing is , your not me you havant been through things I have. Because I want a kid at 15 its because I don't want my child going though the hits and punches I get from my grandad who I live with. And he is dying and not trying to sound horrible but I can't what for him to die beause I've lived with him since I was 3 and gone though so much and I've allways been told to keep my mouth shut but now I can finely speak out and not be afried that he is going to hurt me. And the comments you have just seid are HURTFULL. And I've been going through depressoin and my uncle has just died arfter a gang jumped him and stabbed him and set him a light. Now please can you all stop saying hurtfull things to me x

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