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Originally Posted by JudyKayTee

When I said "your board" I meant that I respect your wishes on this board - this is where you hang out and post and know people and personalities and I'm just a person who wanders in and out. What works for you here works for me.

As far as the weather - I agree. I also am in about my 10th day of a positively horrible cough. I sound like Daffy Duck on speed. Sometimes when I open my mouth Carol Channing comes out; other times it's more like the Exorcist. I had no voice for about 3 days so my husband's prayers WERE eventually answered. Unfortunately, he wasn't here to enjoy the silence. :) I need some sun and sand - soon.

"You guys" pulled my tail through a terrible, terrible year so if things are OK with you, things are OK with me.

Love you back - you know you're my Canadian sister, eh? (running for cover)

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Jude, you are hilarious! LMAO! Daffy Duck on speed! Is your head spinning around? Do you have green stuff coming out of your mouth? :eek: Are you starting to sing the chorus of "Diamonds are a girls best friend"? If you can do all three of those things at once, you could quit your job, and move to Hollywood! You could be in a broadway play! Oh, you're so funny, girl! :D We love you too... eh!

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Originally Posted by starbuck8

I agree Judy, and if apologies were made, I think they should have been made across the board to all involved, and not to just a few. I don't think I should have to be reminded of the rules, and reprimanded in a reddie, by a newbie.

I also had said in the other thread that it may have been a misunderstanding, and was quite willing to just move on, only to see this thread the very next day, which I believe was right after the apology received by Linny.

But I digress, maybe I'm in a bad mood today also!

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And the person knew enough to go to another, totally unrelated thread, to give me a revenge reddie - so this is no babe in the woods.

But apparently it's over so I guess we turn the page.

Only time will tell who is being played and courted... and why.

Did you all hear of the dog breeder here in Atlanta, professional, dogs well cared for, with 100 plus all registered animals, all of a sudden their heath was too bad to take care of the dogs, her family could not or would not take over and they just called animal control to come in and haul them all off. I was just watching it on TV.

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Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck

Did you all hear of the dog breeder here in Atlanta, professional, dogs well cared for, with 100 plus all registered animals, all of a sudden thier heath was too bad to take care of the dogs, her family could not or would not take over and they just called animal control to come in and haul them all off. I was just watching it on TV.

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How sad - I understand animals are getting dropped off in shelters with the economy as bad as it is, also. I would guess there are also children wearing shoes that are too small. Sad business.

So this means you aren't taking in 100 dogs?

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Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck

Did you all hear of the dog breeder here in Atlanta, professional, dogs well cared for, with 100 plus all registered animals, all of a sudden thier heath was too bad to take care of the dogs, her family could not or would not take over and they just called animal control to come in and haul them all off. I was just watching it on TV.

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That would be your typical "puppymill,"... or at the very least, a "backyard breeder." A reputable and professional breeder that took good care of their dogs, would never EVER have over 100 dogs! These people were making a huge profit off these so called "registered" or "papered" dogs. I wonder what their surroundings were like! Maybe the owners were sick because it was likely filthy, and very unhealthy. That just sickens me. It isn't hard to get a dog registered at all. Does that mean they are of a good bloodline, or healthy, and are genetically sound?. absolutely not. I hope they charge these people. Sick or not, the people that ran this operation need to be held accountable, for their neglect. Very sad. :(... and infuriating!

No actuay the state representitives for the Ag dept were there that said they were fully licensed, were inspected every year and the animals were in the best condition that could be expected. In fact they and the humane society were stating the animals were so wonderful that they should not have any trouble getting rid of them. ( but of course this means the dozens of non perfect dogs won't be)

"The view" had a few dogs on their show last week, they were all rescue dogs that are currently in the shelter. Ya, there is an influx of dogs being surrendered because of the economy, it's sad. There was also a 12 year old dog on the show who's owner passed on and had no where else to go, at 12 years of age chances are he won't be adopted.

Times are tough, that's another good reason not to breed your dog, too many people out there can't afford to care for a dog right now, they're having enough trouble caring for themselves.

Judy sweetie, I hope my gut is right on this, but we'll see. I agree that the reddie was uncalled for, but like you said, it's just a reddie, it looks pretty with green. :) Take care of yourself chicky, we need you.

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Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck

No actuay the state representitives for the Ag dept were there that said they were fully licensed, were inspected every year and the animals were in the best condition that could be expected. In fact they and the humane society were stating the animals were so wonderful that they should not have any trouble getting rid of them. ( but of course this means the dozens of non perfect dogs won't be)

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Hmmm, well I guess I would have to see the story. I'll try and find it. I still would question one breeder having over one hundred dogs though. The dogs could have very well been in a wonderful environment, but I would want to see how many people they had under their employ, that were giving these dogs the care and attention that they would need.

If it were to be a responsible and reputable breeder, they would need at least 2 people per dog, to give them the exercise, and affection that they would need, in order to be stable and make good pets for a loving family. That is also 100 plus dogs that are not spayed or neutered. The shelter will not likely have the funding to do this either. So not only will the other shelter dogs that are already there, that will have to die, but someone will take each of those dogs, and likely keep on breeding them. There within lies the problem.

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Originally Posted by Altenweg

"The view" had a few dogs on their show last week, they were all rescue dogs that are currently in the shelter. Ya, there is an influx of dogs being surrendered because of the economy, it's sad. There was also a 12 year old dog on the show who's owner passed on and had no where else to go, at 12 years of age chances are he won't be adopted.

Times are tough, that's another good reason not to breed your dog, too many people out there can't afford to care for a dog right now, they're having enough trouble caring for themselves.

Judy sweetie, I hope my gut is right on this, but we'll see. I agree that the reddie was uncalled for, but like you said, it's just a reddie, it looks pretty with green. :) Take care of yourself chicky, we need you.

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Everyone get out their green markers and start coloring! We will have a color party! Who's in? Can we turn reddies into pinkies? :D

Red and green don't make pink Starby, they make a scary color that looks a lot like what my kids used to deposit in their diapers. Ew!

I'll stick with the red, they're a sign that I'm causing people to think. Okay, maybe not, but that's what I'm choosing to think. ;)

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Originally Posted by Altenweg

Times are tough, that's another good reason not to breed your dog, too many people out there can't afford to care for a dog right now, they're having enough trouble caring for themselves.

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That brings to mind something that I have always wondered about when it comes to the transient and homeless folks in my neck of the woods. They always have large breed dogs. I understand that there is a sense of physical protection they could provide, but if you are having difficulty feeding yourself, how can you feed an animal that size? I would probably be a very short lived homeless person with canine companion, because I would go for the chihuahua size fellow, small appetite, always on high alert, fits in a small tote bag, and, well, leaves 'small deposits'.

A chihuahua would never survive outdoors in my neck of the woods, a bigger dog is a must, it can keep you warm, protect you, carry things (however much a homeless person has to carry) and most importantly, survive. ;)

Actually the homeless in Edmonton don't have a lot of dogs, in fact, I've never seen a homeless person with a dog in Edmonton. I'm sure they're out there, but I've never seen them. Curious.

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Originally Posted by Altenweg

A chihuahua would never survive outdoors in my neck of the woods, a bigger dog is a must, it can keep you warm, protect you, carry things (however much a homeless person has to carry) and most importantly, survive. ;)

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Didn't factor in the "keep you warm" part! Never thought of that. And yeah, a chihuahua in canada... definitely not an outdoors survival dog. The idea of a chihuahua is more of a perimeter alert than anything else. Super eyes, ears and nose, even asleep.

I guess you could use them to haul something the size of a pack of cigarettes, or they could be a pocket warmer or neck warmer, lol.

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Originally Posted by vwdieseljunkie

Didn't factor in the "keep you warm" part! Never thought of that. And yeah, a chihuahua in canada... definitely not an outdoors survival dog. The idea of a chihuahua is more of a perimeter alert than anything else. Super eyes, ears and nose, even asleep.

I guess you could use them to haul something the size of a pack of cigarettes, or they could be a pocket warmer or neck warmer, lol.

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Never underestimate the importance of cigarette retrieval! Any animal that would transport cigarettes is clearly doing God's work (he says, lighting another cigarette).

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Originally Posted by Altenweg

A chihuahua would never survive outdoors in my neck of the woods, a bigger dog is a must, it can keep you warm, protect you, carry things (however much a homeless person has to carry) and most importantly, survive. ;)

Actually the homeless in Edmonton don't have alot of dogs, in fact, I've never seen a homeless person with a dog in Edmonton. I'm sure they're out there, but I've never seen them. Curious.

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I happen to like big dogs, live with over 200# of dog, as a matter of fact, and I also wonder how many people have to decide between feeding their dogs and putting sneakers on their children's feet.

I am getting 3-4 calls a week from the GSD rescue asking me to take in a dog. As it happens I pay the bills for my "foster dog" until the father is able to find employment. The dog gets to stay at home, the kids don't lose their dog (I always had a dog as a kid), the dog is taken care of and fed and gets his shots and medicine, when things pick up the family will still be intact.

I've posted before but I also feed an elderly person's cat - I never knew cats eat so little! It's a very inexpensive thing to do, including the litter, and the woman gets to keep her companion and she also gets to eat.

If anyone out there has a few extra dollars it's a very worthwhile thing to do - I do it anonymously through my Vet.

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Originally Posted by JudyKayTee

I happen to like big dogs, live with over 200# of dog

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I never could get into the big dogs, but that was just me. I know it's a crude, farm-boy attitude, but it's basically sums it up for me:
"If it eats more than me, or poops more, I need to be able to work it, ride it, or eat it." Like I said, it's crude, but it's my opinion.

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Originally Posted by JudyKayTee

I've posted before but I also feed an elderly person's cat - I never knew cats eat so little! It's a very inexpensive thing to do, including the litter, and the woman gets to keep her companion and she also gets to eat.

If anyone out there has a few extra dollars it's a very worthwhile thing to do - I do it anonymously through my Vet.

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I'm a cat fan myself, when it comes to an indoor animal. Perfect companion for me and my wife. When she wants attention, she comes TO us. Pet her and scritch on her a few minutes and she's done. She hops down and proceeds to go tend to her normal routine (90% sleeping, 5% bird-watching, 5% mystery). She lets us know when the food dish is empty (even if it's midnight) and she lets us know when she goes potty and the box needs cleaned. She's curled up in a 'kitty-loaf' right now, peering at me over her tail as though to say "I know you're over there talking about me". Love my kitty.

My wife participates in some kind of "specialty-diet" food donation, thing, at our vet's office. Last time we bought some to donate, it was a big bag of kitten-specific, and a bag of what basically boils down to elderly cat food. It's similar to something Iams puts out, but by a different name. It makes her happy to know she's helping out, and she'd rather do it that way than to just donate money. It makes her happy, which in turn makes me happy. I like the anonymous aspect of the program.

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Originally Posted by vwdieseljunkie

I never could get into the big dogs, but that was just me. I know it's a crude, farm-boy attitude, but it's basically sums it up for me:
"If it eats more than me, or poops more, I need to be able to work it, ride it, or eat it." Like I said, it's crude, but it's my opinion..

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Well, you may be crude but at least you're consistent.

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Originally Posted by JudyKayTee

Well, you may be crude but at least you're consistent.

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I'll never claim to be more than I am! Good thing my wife has a rich sense of humor.

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Originally Posted by Akoue

Never underestimate the importance of cigarette retrieval! Any animal that would transport cigarettes is clearly doing God's work (he says, lighting another cigarette).

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Don't forget the beer Akoue! I think that will be Niksters game of the day. I'll teach her to retrieve stuff for mommy! :D Hey, I wonder if I can get her to clean? Hmmmm! I think she heard my evil plan. :eek: She just got up, gave me "the look" and went back to her pillow! This isn't going to be easy!

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Originally Posted by starbuck8

Don't forget the beer Akoue! I think that will be Niksters game of the day. I'll teach her to retrieve stuff for mommy! :D Hey, I wonder if I can get her to clean? Hmmmm! I think she heard my evil plan. :eek: She just got up, gave me "the look" and went back to her pillow! This isn't going to be easy!

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Oh yeah, you can hang it up, you've "been made", Niksters on to you!