Hello Ruby:

Well, I saw what the fuss is all about. I only ask you to consider who is doing the telling. These are the same people who said Iraq had WMD's.

That's not to say there isn't flavored meth out there – but the rest surrounding it is pure guvm't crap.

excon

Hello excon:

I don't give a rat's behind about all the rest of the propaganda. That was not what I was reacting to. It appeared you didn't believe that this was a threat to children and that Nowwhat should not be concerned. I disagreed.

Ruby

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello Ruby:

Well, I saw what the fuss is all about. I only ask you to consider who is doing the telling. These are the same people who said Iraq had WMD’s.

That’s not to say there isn’t flavored meth out there – but the rest surrounding it is pure guvm’t crap.

excon

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I am with the con on this. The media, and the government seem to enjoy freaking people out. There is always something scary and uncontrollable.
Shouldn't crack have destroyed the world by now? What about ocycotin?
Shouldn't the whole country be robbing drugstores? New laws controlling the access to the raw materials used in meth seem to be working at least some what. (you are going to love this)
The real problem with this is the meth (or Ice) being made in huge labs in Mexico and shipped across the border. If the United States would effectively control it's borders, maybe it would help.

Hello again, Ruby:

Certainly Nowwhat has reason to be concerned. Drugs are bad and she should watch her kids carefully.

Should she be more concerned today than she was last year when meth tasted shtty? No.

excon

PS> However, I DO have a problem with parents who are watching their kids for drug use, but let them drink. THAT is much more prevalent today, than chocolate meth.

I applaud Now What for being concerned about what is going on in the drug world. It directly affects the world that her child is being raised in.

However, I would be less concerned about the flavored meth and more concerned about the cocktail parties that students are now hosting. We had a meeting on them earlier in the year.

It seems the new "in" thing is to steal prescription meds from adults or wherever they can get them. They then go to a party location. Place all the meds into a bowl, stir it up, grab a handful, wash it down with alcohol, and wait to see what reaction they get. Scary stuff...

Hello drugwarriors:

Have you ever wondered what happened to soporific's like Quaaludes? They're gone. They're absolutely GONE. That's because the government decided to DO something about it, and they did!

Doesn't that get you to wonder why they don't DO something about meth instead of scaring you about it? They could, if they wanted to.

Matt's right. It isn't about drugs. It's about control. Fear does wonders for that.

excon

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I applaud Now What for being concerned about what is going on in the drug world. It directly affects the world that her child is being raised in.

However, I would be less concerned about the flavored meth and more concerned about the cocktail parties that students are now hosting. We had a meeting on them earlier in the year.

It seems the new "in" thing is to steal prescription meds from adults or wherever they can get them. They then go to a party location. Place all the meds into a bowl, stir it up, grab a handful, wash it down with alcohol, and wait to see what reaction they get. Scary stuff...

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This is exactly the kind of stuff I am talking about. I mean it seems that many pills would just make you sick.

In a neighboring school they had a high school student die from a "cocktail" that she mixed at a party.

I am so going to miss the days when I still pick out what my daughter wears. I am not ready for this kind of stuff. Luckily I have a few years (hopefully) before cocktail parties. It just seems that the obstacle course of parenting is getting bigger and bigger.

Nowwhat, it is very important to stay up to date on what the kids are doing. You are right. The obstacle course gets bigger and more difficult as they get older.

What Tuscany is talking about is a new "game" the kids are playing. They call it "Skittles" because the effect of all the different colored pills looks like the candy.

excon, I agree with you about the drinking problem that exists. But, in Nowwhat's case, her daughter is 6 years old. She is afraid that an older child will offer her daughter something under the pretext of it being candy. Very legitimate concern if it looks like Pop Rocks. She just has to warn her not to accept any offers of food or candy from ANYONE, kids or adults, unless Nowwhat says it is okay.

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In a neighboring school they had a high school student die from a "cocktail" that she mixed at a party.

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I am not doubting you Tusk. But I saw this on a episode of CSI, and I kept thinking they are just going to give someone bad ideas.

It makes me sick to think that people sit around and think things up like this. I mean, target young kids with something that looks like pop rocks? Even went so far as to make them "sizzle". Who are these people?
And these parties - I hope when she is old enough - we have taught her to be smarter than this.
My mom use to tell me that you never know how your body is going to react to drugs. What could be fine for one could kill another. It didn't matter if it was pot - whatever.
So, I had the fear of God put in me about drugs - I was so afraid to try anything. The most adventurous I ever got was to smoke pot when I was a senior in HS. Which looking back - I think I navigated o.k. - my boyfriend was put in rehab during that time because of her acid and coke problems.
Now I can understand my parents more - because this really frightens me with my daughter.

The flavored meth, might as well be poisoned candy. Like I said these "dealers" (and I am talking about the ones that hang out at the
Dr's office also) have got to be dealt with. I am not seriously saying kill them, but if everyone knew that a couple of convictions could lead to deportation to Canada, well they might think twice.








I just wanted to see if anyone was actually reading. If not Canada than maybe like Idaho? Sort of like a escape from NY thing. Except of course it wold be escape from Idaho. (Doesn't have the same ring)

Well, I have heard Canada is perfect - so... we wouldn't want to tarnish that! :)

We know of some people that got caught and arrested for, among other things, had the makings of a meth lab in their home. The had two small boys, 3 and 12 months, living there with them. THe kids have been taken away and they await trial. Well, the husband got busted again with a full meth lab in another location (a space he was renting) - while out on bond. The mom failed a drug test and blah blah blah. What are they thinking?
These places that have the labs in them are toxic. When disposing of these materials - the police wear Haz-Mat suits. If someone purchases a home, unknowingly, that was a lab - they can get sick. If you purchase one knowingly - the only way to make habitable is to basically gut it and start over.
And this what is being put in your body? This what these sicko's have no problem pushing on to my child and others?
I am getting angry just thinking about and starting to see the point of view of those who said they should be shot!

Yes it is a foul thing, in some communities cocaine is still destroying things and people left and right. 20 years later. Meth is possibly even more crazy.

I wouldn't mind being deported to Canada if they would accept me. I don't think I would like Idaho. Magprob live there and look how he has turned out. Must be something in those potatoes.

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The flavored meth, might as well be poisoned candy. Like I said these "dealers" (and I am talking about the ones that hang out at the
dr's office also) have got to be dealt with. I am not seriously saying kill them, but if everyone knew that a couple of convictions could lead to deportation to Canada, well they might think twice.








I just wanted to see if anyone was actually reading. If not Canada than maybe like Idaho? Sort of like a escape from NY thing. Except of course it wold be escape from Idaho. (Doesn't have the same ring)

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The same element is moving to Idaho now and selling the meth that is made in Mexico. They just stabbed someone in the Lowe's parking lot last week. That's OK and we should treat them like Rock Stars. Like a group hug and everything. We will talk with them and then they will be nice. Group hugs! Group hugs!

I found this online today, I couldn't help but put it in this discussion to see how many people agreed with it.

"Like a lot of folks in this state, I have a job. I work, they pay me.

I pay my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as they see fit.

In order to get that paycheck--I am required to pass a random urine test,
which I have no problem with.

What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people who
don't have to pass a urine test.

Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare check, because I
have to pass one to earn it for them?

Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back on their
feet. I do, on the other hand, have a problem with helping someone sit on their butt.

Could you imagine how much money the state would save if people had to pass
a urine test to get a public assistance check?"
Dysan.net

I think that's a GREAT idea.

While we're at it, let's have random testing for parents, too! If you can't pass a random piss test, you can't keep your kids! Think of those thousands of desperate, loving couples that would be glad to raise those kids!