Isn't the law part of the corrupt government?Quote:
Originally Posted by Inso The Jester
How can you be on the Internet? (In some countries lately, the Internet and smartphones have been a big help to rebels to coordinate their activities.)
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Isn't the law part of the corrupt government?Quote:
Originally Posted by Inso The Jester
How can you be on the Internet? (In some countries lately, the Internet and smartphones have been a big help to rebels to coordinate their activities.)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Inso The Jester
You are afraid of something - the Government, the laws, the Police - in your Country but you are on the Internet posting your beliefs.
That's what I'm trying to say.
And this makes no sense at all: "people who want revenge on the law - if i got known on the internet fighting the law with my mind instead of my fists i might get killed"
Do you think the Government looks for names or traces down which computers are being used, which "Provider" addresses are being used?
"i am a person that wishes to live in peace under a good rule"Quote:
Originally Posted by JudyKayTee
Didn't you get that part? Tell me since when violence has been the road to peace
I only fight for self defense (I hardly can anymore) I try to use my mind to solve problems not my hands
And here those rebel people would kill me if I don't go fight with them which I am and they can't realize that minds are way more powerful than fists
And no I'm in a country nearby I got moved to another country after getting seriously injured
And sadly the war and corrupted laws are very close to us and this country now is being effected
Nope that's why I don't fear the laws I fear the peopleQuote:
Originally Posted by JudyKayTee
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Originally Posted by Inso The Jester
Once again you have changed the subject in midstream. Your comment was about laws. I quoted what you said about laws.
You then came back with this post about "tell you when violence has been the road to peace."
First, don't ask me questions. I'm not the one opening threads. You are.
Second - when you don't have an answer you switch topics or completely ignore the question, no matter how many times it's asked.
I am seeing a lot of theories here - nothing but textbook theories.
Is this an example of how you are fighting corruption with your mind?
Your signature says it all: "im a person that never felt love from anyone at all!! even my own parents never gave me anything but hatred all my life the people i loved and i thought loved me died or hurt me - i go by inso the jester: i = irritated; n= negative; s= soulless; o= object"
I'm sorry but I have to leave for work now
To be honest most of the time I misunderstand your questions so I answer with what I understoodQuote:
Originally Posted by JudyKayTee
What questions do you not understand?
Here I didn't get what she said 100%Quote:
Originally Posted by Enigma1999
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Originally Posted by JudyKayTee
You don’t understand what said?Quote:
Originally Posted by Inso The Jester
Okay - from the top:
“Your other post (about being an anarchist)” - you posted at least once before so it’s your other post - (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/other-...ce-698171.html) - and said you are an anarchist.
“... seems to state you are concerned about corruption, corrupted laws:” You said (in the post about being an anarchist) about LAWS that you “... a person that will never be ruled by someone who kills his own people daily just for fun and money; I will never accept to be used by bad laws; ...” You also said about CORRUPTION (in the post about being an anarchist): “police here rob you in the street;... what right does a policeman have to break down the door and order money? “
You then questioned me (in the post about being an anarchist), apparently concerning both LAWS and CORRUPTION: “well you want to know me?; I'm a person that wants to live safely in my home; I'm a person that wants to live like other people in other countries; tell me who wouldn't be against a bad ruler? You would never understand how it feels; now if you had a bad gov would you do what I'm doing now or not?" Those are questions you asked me.
I asked you not to ask me questions about what I would do because I’m not here seeking advice, I have no idea where you are so I have no idea what I’d do, and when you can’t have a conversation that makes sense from you side you switch to another topic. In this case, that switch appears to involve me defending myself.
Concerning what I said about the Internet (“If that is the case I cannot believe you are on the Internet in "your Country," unconcerned”) it is difficult to believe that you are in some way being hunted by the Government and the Police but are using the Internet to post information about that very Government and Police. Assuming the Government (and Police) are as corrupt as you say they are, you don’t think someone is tracking you on the Internet?
And concerning this - “ In many ways you sound like a disgruntled student, somehow who incites other people to act. - you sound like someone who stands on the sidelines, a student, and incites other people to act. You address and explain nothing, continue on with veiled references about nothing and when asked a direct question attempt to turn the “conversation” in another direction.
Do you understand now?
Basically that you are trying to provoke people. She also quoted your words, which is what you said, right?
I am having a hard time believing that you are only 16. You mention working... what do you do?
It's also hard to believe that you had a long term relationship at your age. Your threads seem to clash with one another. Doesn't quite add up.
On one of your other threads (https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/teens/...ip-698286.html you “recently got out of a relationship with a really nice girl we have been together for more than 5 years
i gave up everything for her i quit my job my money i gave up my dream my time just to see her smile ...” You have also posted you are 16 and cannot find work. You either were in a relationship from the time you were 11 and you gave up your job OR your life is as dismal you post here.
I’m beginning to think you don’t know your own circumstances in life.
Perhaps a troll?
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Originally Posted by Enigma1999
I think it's a student, probably in the middle east judging by the phrasing and grammar, practicing his English.
Some parts of the story simply don't make sense.
I think he is a bored teen.
I think I am too willing to give the benefit of the doubt, even though I didn't for a second think he was 16. Give me time I'm learning.
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Originally Posted by LadySam
Until someone rings the final bell there is no way to know what the situation is.
I've always thought he was a bored teen. His story changes with every post and just does not make sense half the time. I agree with JudyKay, he is probably from another country.
I'm confused too. In your other thread you stated you just got out of a serious relationship with your girlfriend. A relationship that lasted 5 years. So you started a serious relationship at the age of 11? Your parents have been deceased for 7 years, and you've been supporting yourself every since, living on your own? You would have been 9. You expect us to believe that you got a job, a place to live on your own at the age of 9, and then 2 years later started dating seriously?
Sorry, but I'm not buying it. If you want to lie to us then at least keep your lies in order, we're not that easily fooled. Your lies will have to get a lot better if you want us to start believing you. At least make it realistic.
Ladysam, I too was a lot like you when I first started amhd... I gave people the benefit of doubt... quite a bit. However, I, along with most have been bamboozled time and time again.Quote:
Originally Posted by LadySam
Jester, Alty is right! Too many inconsistencies here... I believe that you may be a kid who strives for attention. Now... I could be wrong. I have been in the past, and my ex is proof of that. So... prove me wrong.
If he can prove us wrong that would be something I'd accept, and I'd apologize for doubting him. But, I can't see how he's going to prove us wrong. I realize that some countries are horrendous, and orphaned children have to fend for themselves, dumpster dive, live in cardboard boxes. But this OP is expecting us to believe that he's been on his own since the age of 9, works, pays rent, starting a serious relationship at the age of 11 that lasted for 5 years, and has enough money for a computer and internet access in a country that sends 10 year old children to war armed with rocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Enigma1999
Ya, just not buying it, and I can't see any explanation that would make me change my mind.
Anyone want to bet that the OP will come back and say something along the lines of "I can't prove it, because I want to remain anonymous. It's not fair that I'm not being believed. But if you don't believe me, that's your problem", and offer no proof at all, or even logic to explain the inconsistencies?
I bet a toaster. :)
How can he prove anything?
I guess he really can't prove it, but he could try to explain why we should believe what are obviously lies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Are you saying that you believe that he worked, found a job, a place to live a the age of 9, and then started dating at the age of 11 and stayed with this girl for 5 years? Are you saying you believe that at the age of 10 he was sent to war with only rocks to fight against people with guns? Are you saying you believe that he lives in a country so corrupt that the mere mention of going against that government could lead to death, yet he posts about that corrupt government on a website? Most countries where this corruption is, monitor internet access, and even forbid it, yet here he is posting about it, and, even though he can't even feed himself he has a computer and internet access.
Can he prove it? No. Why? Because it's not true. I'd bet a toaster on it.
Because I asked about how he can prove who he says he is means I get stomped on now? Unless we know each other in person, we have absolutely no idea of who any of us really is. Yes, we reveal some of ourselves over time and learn to trust each other over time, but some I have known and trusted turned out not to be trustworthy and no one I really knew.
If I remember, he posted earlier in this thread something about not being in the corrupt country any longer but is in a nearby one. ***ADDED*** Found it -- "and no im in a country nearby i got moved to another country after getting seriously injured and sadly the war and corrupted laws are very close to us and this country now is being effected."
You beat me to it, Alty. Good points... all of them. I wouldn't have doubted him if his threads weren't so questionable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alty
Are you kidding me? Nobody has "stomped" on you. Alty was just answering YOUR question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Get a grip!
Alty asked me, "Are you saying that you believe that..." In other words, now I am looked at suspiciously too.
I simply asked, what possible proof can he give?
I never stomped on you WG! You asked how he can prove it. I said he can't, and then asked if you believe his outlandish stories. He can't prove that they're true, but common sense says they're not, and that's what I'm basing my posts on, common sense.
I never stomped on you, nor did I look at you suspiciously.
Maybe it's time to take a step back from AMHD for a few hours, or a day, or longer, like all of us have to do once in a while. You were never "stomped on." You are being overly sensitive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
No one here believes the OP's story, there are too many inconsistencies. I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt until I found out is supposed REAL age. I seriously doubt that a 9 year old could make it on the streets of a war ravaged country without family intervention. Now he claims to be 16 with a job, apartment, cat (that he can't afford to feed) and internet access (that he can afford).
It suddenly went from being the OP's problem of supplying proof to becoming MY problem. Yes, "stomped on" was a bit much, I admit, but I was in shock when I read that. No, I'm not going to take a step back.Quote:
Originally Posted by J_9
You apparently aren't watching the news lately. And he said he isn't in his home country right now but in one near it. His "apartment" may be in a derelict building and/or with other otherwise homeless refugees, the cat may be a stray, and Internet access can be at a street café or even on a cheap cell phone. We may never know the entire story -- or believe it.Quote:
I seriously doubt that a 9 year old could make it on the streets of a war ravaged country without family intervention. Now he claims to be 16 with a job, apartment, cat (that he can't afford to feed) and internet access (that he can afford).
I'm still somewhat on the fence, although I do have my doubts about the age, I try to think of how I know my son reacts to things at times (a bit over zealous and emotional) and place a little of that here.
At this point I'm waiting for his response.
His unwillingness to give any information doesn't help me to understand what he is telling us any better.
In a strange way I hope he is a bored student, troll, just funning with us, while it's not a nice thing to do I would like that better than knowing that (even though just on the internet) I have encountered a young man who has had to struggle this much in so few years. Even if there has been embellishment I do think some of what he has said is possible, other parts I doubt.
I'm just a big softie, at times it's not a good thing, sometimes it serves me well, I don't know which is the case here.
At any rate I'm still a little confused.
I think this thread has gone on too long - there are inconsistencies in the story, certainly. Maybe OP is telling the truth. Maybe he isn't.
My concern is that he is a self-professed anarchist: "a person who promotes disorder or excites revolt against any established rule, law, or custom."
I think he's succeeded to a degree - suddenly long time AMHD members are in conflict and he hasn't come back with... zip. So he got his disorder.
I don't know about the "revolt" part.
I don't have much input in this, however, I can't help but notice the word "Jester" in his username.
jest·er/ˈjestər/Noun:
2. A person who habitually plays the fool.
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Or plays us for the fool.Quote:
Originally Posted by C0bra_M3nace
If that's his intention, he picked the wrong site.
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