Ask Me Help Desk - Black President

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Originally Posted by clinton mccoy

What if a republican were to choose colin powell as running mate would that shake things up forthe Dems? Wow!

Powell's wife wouldn't allow him to run for president, so I doubt she'd allow him to run as VP. He has lost status anyway because of his support and argument for the Iraq invasion. But he would have been my choice had he run for president.

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Powell's wife wouldn't allow him to run for president, so I doubt she'd allow him to run as VP. He has lost status anyway because of his support and argument for the Iraq invasion. But he would have been my choice had he run for president.

But would it help Reps?

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Powell's wife wouldn't allow him to run for president, so I doubt she'd allow him to run as VP. He has lost status anyway because of his support and argument for the Iraq invasion. But he would have been my choice had he run for president.

He would have been a serious consideration of mine as well. I didn't know she didn't want him to run. I can't say I blame her. It really puts your whole life out there and the lives of anyone close to you. That's pretty tough. And he has contributed so much to this country to date, but I sure hope the Mrs. changes her mind, would make things so interesting and he would add so much to the ticket as well as the office.

Got to spread the love, Allheart...

Obama-Powell -- woo hoo!!

My problem is id prefer powell as a potential #1, at least for the primary parades. Now, understand that I'm not saying id vote for him #1, and I know he's not going to run... I don't understand half of his positions... but he seemed at least like a man of integrity and conviction.

Maybe its wrong, but he is a man I would be excited about if nothing else, for the fact he seemed transparent... no pretense.

Yes... he went in front of the UN and talked about WMD's in iraq... I believe he believed it... and he has always struck me as one of those men who were, unfortunately (? ), above the noise of politics.

I saw a link today that listed the top donors to the top two in each party... you know what was surprising?

All the same big political donors were the same.

Didn't matter if it was clinton, obama, romney, or mccain. Its like they'll try to buy whomever gets in no matter the result.

Wish I could find the link...

My thought on this is, certainly, the US will elect a black and/or female president. But it won't be a liberal. For that reason, I do not project Ms. Clinton or Mr. Obama as the next president because the Democrat Party has become too marginalized.

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Originally Posted by clinton mccoy

Do you know I have not watched t.v. since the cowboys lost, lol!

Not me, I thoroughly enjoyed watching the Pats get spanked :D

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It is not an issue that slows me down but it is real, on all sides not just black & white. It is not just me, ask 10 people from any race you know and see what they say? Listen I do not care if some is a racist or not, that is up to them, just as long as I am treated the way I present myself. For example> If bush is racist I still respect that he has put blacks into higher position in government than any other president> .

Great for you, press on... I like that attitude.

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Is America ready for a black president?

Obama had a solid showing yesterday in the primary votes . He is going to take the fight all the way to the convention floor I believe and hope. (would love to see some serious fratricide in the Dem. Ranks ) But the point is ;that he is a serious contender and given the right opponent (like the Huckster) I think he could win.

I agree with the other experts who have pointed out other imminently qualified black candidates .It is also encouraging that despite slick Willie's antics ,the race issue has been kept to a minimum.

Barack Obama was able to prove that he could win the white vote. And that showed up in states like Utah, North Dakota, Colorado – places where the African American population is very small.

I hope it's a close match to the very end... that will help the Republicans:p

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Originally Posted by Dark_crow

Barack Obama was able to prove that he could win the white vote. And that showed up in states like Utah, North Dakota, Colorado – places where the African American population is very small.

I hope it's a close match to the very end...that will help the Republicans:p

I was not surprised with how hucklebee turned out he seems more genuine than the rest of the Reps. Lastnight was the first night Mitt seemed humble and human. What say you?

Mccoy

Senator John McCain's huge win beating Mitt Romney was no surprise to me. I am sure that was a humbling experience for Mitt, who was not long ago, far ahead of McCain.

One of my concerns about Mitt is that like the Democrats he will embrace a protectionist economic policy that would harm economic interests not only in America but in some other countries as well.

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Originally Posted by Dark_crow

Mccoy

Senator John McCain’s huge win beating Mitt Romney was no surprise to me. I am sure that was a humbling experience for Mitt, who was not long ago, far ahead of McCain.

One of my concerns about Mitt is that like the Democrats he will embrace a protectionist economic policy that would harm economic interests not only in America but in some other countries as well.

But at some point you have to stop the flow of blood before you can even start operating. I think Mitts foreign policy solution will be based on ecconomics. You know when the dollar comes first a lot of people can get stepped on. Look how many people were laid of from the business he helped to make more money. He is a number cruncher he sees wins by the numbers. That will not help the country to regain the moral high road we once had. You need that in foreign policy. I like the candidate that, at leaste makes me "feel" he, will sit down and eat dinner with me. Do you get that from McCain, Hillary, Mitt?

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Originally Posted by clinton mccoy

But at some point you have to stop the flow of blood before you can even start operating. I think Mitts foreign policy solution will be based on ecconomics. You know when the dollar comes first a lot of people can get stepped on. Look how many people were laid of from the business he helped to make more money. He is a number cruncher he sees wins by the numbers. That will not help the country to regain the moral high road we once had. You need that in foreign policy. I like the candidate that, at leaste makes me "feel" he, will sit down and eat dinner with me. Do you get that from McCain, Hillary, Mitt?

I prefer eating KFC chicken with my hands, unlike Mitt who uses a plastic knife and fork.

Seriously, what is the moral high road; it might be different for two people. The high moral ground in foreign policy for me is to make liberty and the pursuit of happiness available to all humans.

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Originally Posted by Dark_crow

Barack Obama was able to prove that he could win the white vote. And that showed up in states like Utah, North Dakota, Colorado – places where the African American population is very small.

I hope it's a close match to the very end...that will help the Republicans:p

And now he is picking up much of the black vote that was holding with clinton early on... she was a "known quantity" and he wasn't... once he solidly competed in states with small minority populations it seemed to "validate" his chances... not that a white vote is worth more... it's that, I think, some would have seen it as "throwing away" their vote if the candidate wasn't "viable."

That's one reason why, no matter if he wins the nomination or election, I think this seems like a different election process. Obama never tried to play off race (even if some are excited to potentially have a black nominee) and he has challenged well without it. Whereas I think clinton, through her husband, has tried to play off her gender... when bill says tongue in cheek that he "cant make her" a younger, male candidate... he's trying to guilt the people who find obama charismatic and energetic... which is ironic because I think he had that "role" against g.h.w.bush first time through.

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Originally Posted by Dark_crow

I prefer eating KFC chicken with my hands, unlike Mitt who uses a plastic knife and fork.

Seriously, what is the moral high road; it might be different for two people. The high moral ground in foreign policy for me is to make liberty and the pursuit of happiness available to all humans.

Is the moral high road refusing to use the spork? ;)

My dad keeps talking about if we do get a black president he will be assand

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Originally Posted by al1012

my dad keeps talking about if we do get a black president he will be assand

Any color president could be assassinated. In fact, even white ones have been assassinated.

If Al Sharpton or Alan Keyes or even Jesse Jackson were the black candidate, I might agree with you. Not so much with Obama. He doesn't play the race card and is well-liked by a majority of white and black men.

Of course, it only takes one unbalanced person...

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Any color president could be assassinated. In fact, even white ones have been assassinated.

If Al Sharpton or Alan Keyes or even Jesse Jackson were the black candidate, I might agree with you. Not so much with Obama. He doesn't play the race card and is well-liked by a majority of white and black men.

Of course, it only takes one unbalanced person....

I was thinking we have had only white it would be cool to have a black 1 but still he has a higher chance to be assassinated :confused:

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Originally Posted by al1012

i was thinking we have had only white it would be cool to have a black 1 but still he has a higher chance to be assassinated :confused:

I don't believe that at all, and I'm lily white.

If anyone has gotten respect from people, it is Obama. I would more likely expect Clinton or Romney to be assassinated long before Obama.

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

I don't believe that at all, and I'm lily white.

If anyone has gotten respect from people, it is Obama. I would more likely expect Clinton or Romney to be assassinated long before Obama.

OK you I guess your right I think it would sux if a girl was priz... well to most people *not trying to be sexest*

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Originally Posted by al1012

ok ya i guess ur right i think it would sux if a girl was priz..... well to most ppl *not trying to be sexest*

She is an annoying candidate. She's stiff and brittle. She can't even sing on key either. Ewwwwwwww!

Romney could be assassinated because people hate Mormons and don't understand their beliefs. For instance, Mormon men believe they will be gods when they die and each will have his own planet to rule over.

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Originally Posted by Dark_crow

I prefer eating KFC chicken with my hands, unlike Mitt who uses a plastic knife and fork.

I prefer to eat Popeye's fried chicken with my hands. Heck, I'd even eat the Cajun rice with my hands as long as I had napkins :)

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

She is an annoying candidate. She's stiff and brittle. She can't even sing on key either. Ewwwwwwww!!

Romney could be assassinated because people hate Mormons and don't understand their beliefs. For instance, Mormon men believe they will be gods when they die and each will have his own planet to rule over.

Sounds like romney will start more wars :eek: then that will sux more but I don't know much that is going on I can't vote until next time so I am slowly getting into this well starting now

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Originally Posted by al1012

sounds like romney will start more wars :eek: then that will sux more but i dont know much that is going on i can't vote untill next time so i am slowly getting into this well starting now

I'm glad you are here and are reading about the candidates and the election.

Find a web site or a newspaper page that lists all the candidates on a chart and briefly explains what each believes and wants for our country regarding health care, energy, the Iraq war, relations with other countries, poverty, the homeless, a draft, education, etc. The more informed you are, the smarter you will be as a voter. Listen to other people but don't let them sway you against what you believe is right.

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Originally Posted by al1012

sounds like romney will start more wars

He's not in any hurry to die, so I don't think starting wars would be his thing. He has a very nice life now and is wealthy.

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

I'm glad you are here and are reading about the candidates and the election.

Find a web site or a newspaper page that lists all the candidates on a chart and briefly explains what each believes and wants for our country regarding health care, energy, the Iraq war, relations with other countries, poverty, the homeless, a draft, education, etc. The more informed you are, the smarter you will be as a voter. Listen to other people but don't let them sway you against what you believe is right.

OK I will do that and I am afraid of the draft :( :confused: :eek:

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Originally Posted by al1012

ok i will do that and i am afraid of the draft :( :confused: :eek:

There is no draft. There will be no draft.

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

There is no draft. There will be no draft.

But I was told... (this is why my dad is in the army)... at 1 point they opened the draft and like right be for it closed my dad was drafted and when it cloced he told me that it could open again :confused:

It could, but it won't as long as there are enough volunteers who choose go into the military.

The last time there was a draft was during Vietnam when young men did not choose to go into the military to fight that terrible war. Some moved to Canada and hid there. Some went to college and were exempt. Others ended up in jail during protests. The draft was started to force guys into the military.

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

It could, but it won't as long as there are enough volunteers who choose go into the military.

The last time there was a draft was during Vietnam when young men did not choose to go into the military to fight that terrible war. Some moved to Canada and hid there. Some went to college and were exempt. Others ended up in jail during protests. The draft was started to force guys into the military.

I know and my dad is still in the army today he walks funny do to a bulit to the knee :mad: like I said I hate the draft + I have not seen my dad in 6 months because of the war now

I'm sure a lot of america is, but I'm afraid of what the people who ar'nt will do

Why is your father in the Army? Is he a career Army man? He must have volunteered.

The military does give good benefits for housing, health care, education. The Navy would be my choice if I would go into a branch of the service.

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Why is your father in the Army? Is he a career Army man? He must have volunteered.

The military does give good benefits for housing, health care, education. The Navy would be my choice if I would go into a branch of the service.

He got drafted they he got the bulit from the 50 cal in his knee and he just never wanted to leave he could own your family business but he's in the army so when he is home he normaly on base working

In what year was he drafted?

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

In what year was he drafted?

U know I never ask that
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What if he was lying to me to make me get a good job
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But he has been in the army for 34 years

36 years ago he could've been drafted . 34 years ago was 1974 . December 1972 the last person in the US was conscripted.

I do not believe there will be a draft. The military certainly doesn't want it and there is no need. The United States had a much larger volunteer military in the 1980s and there is no reason it could not grow to those levels again without conscription.

You running I'll vote for you!

Hillary and Obama I don't think so.

Seriously, what is the moral high road; it might be different for two people. The high moral ground in foreign policy for me is to make liberty and the pursuit of happiness available to all humans.[/QUOTE]
Ok I meant high ground but I share the same definition

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Any color president could be assassinated. In fact, even white ones have been assassinated.

If Al Sharpton or Alan Keyes or even Jesse Jackson were the black candidate, I might agree with you. Not so much with Obama. He doesn't play the race card and is well-liked by a majority of white and black men.

Of course, it only takes one unbalanced person....

I have since asked 23 black people and all answers were the same. Not even I expected that. I figured someone would give the "every president could be assassinated" politicly correct answer. None. Most people on this site seem to be open minded intelligent people, try talking to some good old boys that sees every black person as a n****r and check their opinions. I am pretty sure you won't be shocked.
This is a true story I work and go to college here in FL. Today I over heard 3 white mean talking about the primary and the candidates. They were two maintenance men and one security( ex-cop) all three were over 40. They talked so bad about Obama( because he was black) that I wanted to comfront all three of them( on an intellectual level of course). They really think that the only reason blacks are voting for him is because he is black. My point is thy felt like the country is going to hell because a black man has the chance to be elected. Oh yea I did make them seem like intellectual fools. Sorry I am not that refined yet. Lmao

You should have beat them up! I was born and raised in NC, so I recognize the mindset. Too bad -- they are very wrong about blacks voting for him just because he is black. In fact, the opposite was true until recently, that blacks didn't think he was black enough or that a black person could ever be president--so they didn't vote for him at first. Thank goodness, that is changing!