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Where would the principal's gun have been kept so that she could have stopped Lanza in his tracks? She was just coming out of a conference room, supposedly at the end of a staffing. Would it have been a good idea that she was always carrying a loaded weapon ready to fire? Had the gun been in her office drawer, it wouldn't have mattered. Should other school staff have also been carrying?Quote:
Originally Posted by J_9
I'm totally on your side in this, and am wondering how she could safely do this yet be effective if the time ever came to use the gun. If she were in the washroom or away from the building, all other faculty and staff would have to be armed in the same way?
Oh, Lord WG, here you are over-analyzing again.Quote:
Where would the principal's gun have been kept so that she could have stopped Lanza in his tracks? She was just coming out of a conference room, supposedly at the end of a staffing. Would it have been a good idea that she was always carrying a loaded weapon ready to fire? Had the gun been in her office drawer, it wouldn't have mattered. Should other school staff have also been carrying?
The principal's (or whomever has a permit) gun would be in a holster secured to their person by their belt.
Yes, it's a good idea to carry a gun that is ready to fire. You don't want to have to fumble trying to load the thing do you? Revolvers are simple point and shoot.
Had the gun been in her drawer she would have been a stupid principal to place it there now wouldn't she?
If other school staff are licensed to carry, why not? However, I don't believe that there should be more than one or two people carrying.
16,000+ people have been killed behind the wheel while texting in the last 6 years... I'm calling for an immediate, nation wide ban of cell phones... it's a rational solution, that should fix the problem
Like I said, I am totally on your side and not over-analyzing at all. Staff comes and goes from the school. The one person carrying could be anywhere and not available. One person carrying a gun wouldn't be good enough. Lanza came in hell-bent with purpose and was a total surprise.
No, you're right, one person wouldn't be enough. It would be wise to have the staff educated as well. However, the person(s) carrying should not be directly in the classroom with the children. They should most likely be the office personnel.
My husband and have been talking about this a lot. He and I agree that there still could have been a lot of damage done before an armed staff person got to the scene -- say, if Lanza would have gone straight to a classroom instead of to the office. We concluded that there have to be even more safeguards put in without turning the school into a barricaded fortress.Quote:
Originally Posted by J_9
How about passing a law limiting the amount of ammunition that a person can purchase and own at once. I've heard this is done in some European countries.
Let's solve this entire death problem all at once, first we save 10,000 a year by outlawing guns, then we save 30000 a year by banning auto, next we save 16000 by banning cells, then we can save ,oh, 100000 a year at least by banning tobacco and at least another 100000 by banning alcohol, we have already banned drugs so that has saved us abunchQuote:
Originally Posted by J_9
In our school, it has been in place just this year, all doors are locked at all times. Parents and visitors have to come in the front door directly into the office. You cannot get into the school any other way. Now our principal, who has a CCP, is carrying.Quote:
My husband and have been talking about this a lot. He and I agree that there still could have been a lot of damage done before an armed staff person got to the scene -- say, if Lanza would have gone straight to a classroom instead of to the office. We concluded that there have to be even more safeguards put in without turning the school into a barricaded fortress.
Oh, Clete... Don't forget we have to ban cancer as well.
I would propose more requirements for people to buy guns other than the obvious criminal and mental health background checks. I think a literacy test, minimum grade 12 education, owning property or a certain net worth, and having liability insurance. This would prevent some stupid people from buying guns, and the property/money requirement would help keep guns away from people with nothing to lose, nobody is more dangerous than an angry and/or mentally ill person with nothing to lose.
Maybe I should've used the sarcasm font to make it more obvious ?Quote:
Originally Posted by TUT317
Interesting, but now you are leaving the people who use firearms to feed their families for the winter... foodless?Quote:
I would propose more requirements for people to buy guns other than the obvious criminal and mental health background checks. I think a literacy test, minimum grade 12 education, owning property or a certain net worth, and having liability insurance. This would prevent some stupid people from buying guns, and the property/money requirement would help keep guns away from people with nothing to lose, nobody is more dangerous than an angry and/or mentally ill person with nothing to lose.
Having lived in Alaska I know many people who do not work because they homestead. Their only source of food is gardening and hunting. I suppose you could force them to be vegetarians.
More likely this coward knowing that he would be confronted would've picked a different target.for that matter ,when the principle bum rushed the guy she could've disabled him with a can of pepper spray.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Gun free zones are a major target for lunatics like this. He knows he can get away with it. We need to do away with gun free zones whether it be a school or a hospital, or whatever. There is no threat there. No fear of danger to the person intending to commit the crime.
The Sandy Hook school was locked too, but Lanza broke the glass, or a window, to get in. All the schools around here are locked, there's a doorbell that rings in the office, and a visitor has to ID himself via an intercom and pass muster before a staff person will unlock the front door and let him in. But all front doors I know of are glass. Those should be replaced with bullet-proof, unbreakable glass?Quote:
Originally Posted by J_9
We have no glass in our doors. Oh, wait, there is glass, it's about the size of an IPad.
And then my husband and I recalled the dark theater that was shot up not long ago. That would be a gun-free zone also, but much harder to manage any kind of protection.Quote:
Originally Posted by J_9
Not if they allowed anyone who has a CCP to carry their weapon.Quote:
And then my husband and I recalled the dark theater that was shot up not long ago. That would be a gun-free zone also, but much harder to manage any kind of protection.
Gun control is a sticky situation. Honestly, I have no problems with guns if they are being used in a productive manner. But, really who in there right mind has an arsenal like Nancy Lanza. Wow! She knew her son may have had mental illness and didn't lock the guns away! No one living in America needs to have semi automatic rifle, it is strictly made for brutal killings. Certainly not needed in hunting animals.
Unfortunately, who knows how many people have this weaponry stockpiled before we can get some law outlawing or limiting sales of these weapons used for war. God help us that we don't have to endure another tragedy like the Sandy Hook Elementary Massacre.
Semi autos are also used for hunting. Not for brutal killings. I used one when living in Alaska to hunt and protect from bears.Quote:
Gun control is a sticky situation. Honestly, I have no problems with guns if they are being used in a productive manner. But, really who in there right mind has an arsenal like Nancy Lanza. Wow! She knew her son may have had mental illness and didn't lock the guns away! No one living in America needs to have semi automatic rifle, it is strictly made for brutal killings. Certainly not needed in hunting animals.
Unfortunately, who knows how many people have this weaponry stockpiled before we can get some law outlawing or limiting sales of these weapons used for war. God help us that we don't have to endure another tragedy like the Sandy Hook Elementary Massacre.
Nancy Lanza had an arsenal? God forbid you should see how many I own! I could open a gun shop with the amount that I own. However, I am a responsible owner. Many of mine are on display at a military museum and the rest are locked in gun safes. Notice I said safe not cabinet.
My husband is a master gunsmith. Our children have been raised around guns and know the dangers of such.
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