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Originally Posted by Starman

I agree that he has allowed this condition to happen for a reason.
Where we differ is that you seem to be saying it's a permanent part of God's plan when the Bible tells us it isn't.

Isaiah 65:17
[ The Glorious New Creation ] “ For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth; And the former shall not be remembered or come to mind.

Acts 3:21
whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began.

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Permanent as in an eternal or everlasting part of His plan? No, I wouldn't say that. I know that the Bible tells us that He will create a new, perfect Earth for us.

Imagine if we had the ability to create worlds, as well. Imagine that we were to create a world strictly for artificially intelligent beings, created in our image. We would also give them the ability to pro-create artificial life. This world would sort of be our first test for them. We would give them free will and the rights to do as they please. However, with the first of the creations, we would lay out the moral guidelines. Given their free will, we must assume that there is the strong likelihood that they will do as we did. However again, we also leave them with the promise that if they walk the righteous path, we will guarantee them a place in a better world.

They are all hard wired to our mainframe where we would log their actions, feelings, true intentions, etc. At the time of their "death," we would judge them.

This whole time, we know how this will inevitably end.

Im not saying that God is just like us and that He, too, once lived on an Earth. But, in His all-knowing, He knows how this, too, will inevitably end.

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Originally Posted by DrJizzle

Imagine if we had the ability to create worlds, as well. Imagine that we were to create a world strictly for artificially intelligent beings, created in our image. We would also give them the ability to pro-create artifical life. This world would sort of be our first test for them. We would give them free will and the rights to do as they please. However, with the first of the creations, we would lay out the moral guidelines. Given their free will, we must assume that there is the strong likelyhood that they will do as we did. However again, we also leave them with the promise that if they walk the righteous path, we will guarantee them a place in a better world. They are all hard wired to our mainframe where we would log their actions, feelings, true intentions, etc. At the time of their "death," we would judge them.

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Are you sure Doc, that you aren't an escaped writer from the original Twilight Zone show?? LOL :D

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Originally Posted by valinors_sorrow

Are you sure Doc, that you aren't an escaped writer from the original Twilight Zone show??? LOL :D

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Lol no, I just escaped FROM the Twilight Zone ;)

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Originally Posted by samir_raut88

hmmm..interesting conversation.

self aware AI machine!.. ?

Persoal opinion: I challenge Science to produce a robot more intelligent than a man. It just seems logically impossible. Why do we have control over all the computers we(i mean they) make? Because, we make it! That's just how i see it. simple enough. Btw, make sure you do have a delete/backspace/undo button, though..just in case..

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But the hypothetical doesn't require the AI to as intelligent as we are. Only that it be self-aware and able to suffer at least psychologically. Let's say it has what humans say is an avwerage IQ and it is the result of an experiment why succeeded in making an AI self aware.

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Originally Posted by DrJizzle

Imagine if we had the ability to create worlds, as well. Imagine that we were to create a world strictly for artificially intelligent beings, created in our image. We would also give them the ability to pro-create artifical life. This world would sort of be our first test for them. We would give them free will and the rights to do as they please. However, with the first of the creations, we would lay out the moral guidelines. Given their free will, we must assume that there is the strong likelyhood that they will do as we did. However again, we also leave them with the promise that if they walk the righteous path, we will guarantee them a place in a better world.

They are all hard wired to our mainframe where we would log their actions, feelings, true intentions, etc. At the time of their "death," we would judge them.

This whole time, we know how this will inevitably end.

Im not saying that God is just like us and that He, too, once lived on an Earth. But, in His all-knowing, He knows how this, too, will inevitably end.

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So essentially what you are saying is that these AI creatures deserve approximately the same rights we have with the same restriction of cause and effect due to obedience or disobediennce to their creator. You also seem to be saying that we as their creator deserve their obedience based on being its creator alone.

SO if these AI's would demand to be their own guides as to rules among themselves trhen we would be justified in pressing the erase button?

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SO if these AI's would demand to be their own guides as to rules among themselves trhen we would be justified in pressing the erase button?

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Brings to mind the reason for the great flood.

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Originally Posted by Starman

SO if these AI's would demand to be their own guides as to rules among themselves trhen we would be justified in pressing the erase button?

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Isn't God justified in the same way?

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Isnt God justified in the same way?

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True, and the reason is that there can't be peace on earth unless his intelligent creation do things within the parameters of his instructions.


Taliman:

The AI erasure and Noachian Flood comparison fits better if only those AI's unwilling to follow the recommended program which keeps the system working properly are erased. Remember Noah and his family survived.