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  • Oct 7, 2008, 06:45 AM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zawatska View Post
    2 days until test time.



    Waiting, patiently waiting - how are you holding up? It's been a long road for you. And your Mom? Is she going to have to face "him" in Court? That's got to be rough.

    Keep your cool!
  • Oct 7, 2008, 08:09 AM
    zawatska

    My mom has her doubts now.. I told her I will never speak to her again if he's not my father because after all this?? I would be crushed. Its not like me and him are talking or I necessarily want him to be my dad because he's a butthole, but its just the fact that all these feelings are there now. I don't know if that made sense lol. My moms thinking back, "was he the only man"? I'm like OMG. He is appearing by phone... not in person.
  • Oct 7, 2008, 08:22 AM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zawatska View Post
    My mom has her doubts now.. I told her I will never speak to her again if hes not my father because after all this??? I would be crushed. Its not like me and him are talking or I necessarily want him to be my dad because hes a butthole, but its just the fact that all these feelings are there now. idk if that made sense lol. My moms thinking back, "was he the only man"? im like OMG. He is appearing by phone...not in person.



    You make me laugh! I FORGOT he's appearing by phone - well, I think that almost makes it easier than facing him - maybe - ?

    I know what you mean about mixed emotions -

    Fingers crossed.
  • Oct 7, 2008, 12:47 PM
    zawatska

    Tomorrow should be no big deal... me and my mom will take a test and thatll be it... when we get the results back is when ill be having a heart attack at age 20. Hahaha
  • Oct 7, 2008, 01:18 PM
    zawatska

    Tomorrow should be no big deal... me and my mom will take a test and thatll be it... when we get the results back is when ill be having a heart attack at age 20. Hahaha
  • Oct 8, 2008, 03:50 PM
    zawatska

    Okay my mom and I got our mouths swabbed, Rob appeared by phone (which was odd as all heck) and the judge said we will get something in the mail with the results, and a new court date so he can re-tell us the results... I'm so excited, but then again not so excited because I don't think even if he IS my father that he will try to have any type of relationship with me... and if he doesn't call me or acknowledge me within a week of us getting the results, then I WILL get him for support. What a shiiiity person huh? Oh well, you live and you learn. I can't be mad, at least I found out who my father was! Until next court date...

    Katie
  • Oct 9, 2008, 06:00 AM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zawatska View Post
    Okay my mom and I got our mouths swabbed, Rob appeared by phone (which was odd as all heck) and the judge said we will get something in the mail with the results, and a new court date so he can re-tell us the results... I'm so excited, but then again not so excited because I don't think even if he IS my father that he will try to have any type of relationship with me... and if he doesn't call me or acknowledge me within a week of us getting the results, then I WILL get him for support. What a shiiiity person huh? Oh well, you live and you learn. I can't be mad, at least I found out who my father was! Until next court date...

    Katie



    I thought of you yesterday - sat in an Attorney's office to talk about locating someone. Woman has serious health problems, her mother died very young, she was raised by her stepfather, Doctor would like family history - and she does not know her father other than a very common last name. No date of his birth. Apparently mother shredded her copies of everything a long time ago. It's going to be so difficult to find him! Attorney is trying to get Court Order to open records but so far that's been an uphill, expensive battle.

    So even if your "father" wants no contact now at least if there ever is a problem you know where to look and who to ask.

    And someday - who knows - ?
  • Oct 9, 2008, 10:13 AM
    zawatska

    True. I love you. :-)
  • Oct 9, 2008, 10:30 AM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zawatska View Post
    true. i love you. :-)



    Back at you - and you'll always know, how matter how this turns out, that you did you very, very best to get to know your "father," despite the odds.

    Lots of guts, my friend, lots of guts.


    Would you do me a favor and take a look at this: https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/missin...ad-264459.html. You better than anyone what a painful search this can be, how upsetting the result can be, what it takes, and I am honestly worried because she is "only" 15 and apparently her mother is not aware.

    Maybe we won't agree on this one but I will certainly value your opinion based on your experience.
  • Oct 9, 2008, 02:45 PM
    zawatska

    Okay ill take a look now...
  • Nov 23, 2008, 08:11 PM
    zawatska

    Okay so I'm still waiting for test results... does anyone know why the heck its taking soooo long?? I took my test on oct 8th
  • Nov 24, 2008, 06:43 AM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zawatska View Post
    okay so im still waiting for test results....does anyone know why the heck its taking soooo long??? i took my test on oct 8th



    I saw this and my heart jumped and then I read it and my heart fell.

    I have NO idea why the long wait unless the Court/lab are really backed up.

    And so the waiting game continues...
  • Nov 24, 2008, 05:29 PM
    zawatska

    I know Judy. I'm about to FLIP THE FREAK OUT. I will call them everyday starting tomorrow morning and ask them what's going on. I understand that out of state cases/ testing obv. Takes longer, I get that. But they told me Definitely 4-6 weeks... we are on our 7th week right now. =( and don't worry, once I do get the results I will PM you approximately 1,434,346568,34347673634636,346363636 times!!
  • Nov 24, 2008, 09:30 PM
    zawatska

    I wonder why though... perhaps until I turn 21 then he wouldn't have to pay support??
  • Nov 25, 2008, 12:03 AM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zawatska View Post
    I know Judy. I'm about to FLIP THE FREAK OUT. I will call them everyday starting tomorrow morning and ask them what's going on. I understand that out of state cases/ testing obv. takes longer, I get that. But they told me DEFINATELY 4-6 weeks...we are on our 7th week right now. =( and dont worry, once I do get the results I will PM you approximately 1,434,346568,34347673634636,346363636 times!!!!!!!!

    Hi, zawatska!

    Why not post the results on this thread? You've already continued this thread for quite some length and the site is about asking questions and getting answers that are visible to all so that others might also benefit by the answers that have been given as well as the discussion that may have happened.

    I'm sure that others would also like to know the results. I know that I'm one who's interested in what the results will be.

    Thanks!
  • Nov 25, 2008, 06:16 AM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Clough View Post
    Hi, zawatska!

    Why not post the results on this thread? You've already continued this thread for quite some length and the site is about asking questions and getting answers that are visible to all so that others might also benefit by the answers that have been given as well as the discussion that may have happened.

    I'm sure that others would also like to know the results. I know that I'm one who's interested in what the results will be.

    Thanks!



    I'm sure she will do both - post (as she has always done) and also PM me. This is not an attempt to take it off the board.

    Any private conversation has concerned identifying information which is inappropriate to post.
  • Nov 25, 2008, 06:17 AM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zawatska View Post
    i wonder why though...perhaps until i turn 21 then he wouldnt have to pay support???



    Good point - has this issue been raised at all? Was the petition for ongoing support, back support?

    That's a good question - I'll be very interested in the answer.
  • Nov 25, 2008, 08:33 AM
    zawatska

    Clough I don't have the test results yet, which is the reason I haven't posted the results!! READ.

    And me expressing my feelings about waiting so long for the results is helping others who may read this thread... other people may be waiting for their results also, and have the same anxious feelings that I do. And this thread can go on as long as Fr_chuck or judy or whoever says it can.
  • Nov 25, 2008, 08:34 AM
    zawatska
    And I can PM Judy all day... we've become close, and if I want to PM her asking her how her day was, that's appropriate and I will continue doing it!
  • Nov 25, 2008, 08:44 AM
    jjwoodhull
    I'm sorry this is dragging on so long. You must feel tortured! You've been really brave through all this so just hang on a little longer. You've made it this far, you're almost there. :)
  • Nov 25, 2008, 08:52 AM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jjwoodhull View Post
    I'm sorry this is dragging on so long. You must feel tortured!! You've been really brave through all this so just hang on a little longer. You've made it this far, you're almost there. :)



    The amazing part of this - to me - is that "Z" came here for info and insight, read and digested and actually located her possible father... and followed through. I wasn't sure she even HAD a case here and she was absolutely tenacious, took the power into her hands and ran with it. Stood up for what she thought was right. And her mother stood right next to her the whole time.

    Takes a lot of guts.
  • Nov 25, 2008, 02:38 PM
    zawatska

    OMG!! Test results just came in, I left work to check my mail because I had a strange gut feeling... they were there!!

    He is 99.99% my father!! Ahhhhhhh Judy!!

    I sent my DAD an email... we will see if he even responds! (doubt it) I finally have closure, and that is all I ask or really wanted... Now should I get child support or no?
  • Nov 25, 2008, 03:09 PM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zawatska View Post
    OMG!!!!!! Test results just came in, I left work to check my mail because I had a strange gut feeling.... they were there!!!

    He is 99.99% my father!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ahhhhhhh Judy!!!

    I sent my DAD an email ....we will see if he even responds!! (doubt it) I finally have closure, and that is all I ask or really wanted....Now should I get child support or no?



    Oh, my - and now he can eat his words.

    Now you can go to Court and file for child support - talk to the Court Clerk, see if it's worth it, what the policy is because I'm not 100% sure. You're so close to 21 -

    Well, all else aside - you found out what you wanted to know! You've won the first round and now it's up to you how to proceed.

    Let me digest this but I'm happy for you - it's been a long road and you've persisted.

    Way to go "Z"!

    (Your experience will also be very helpful to other people facing the same situation and posting here.)
  • Nov 25, 2008, 03:13 PM
    zawatska

    Well from what my grandma has told me... she retired from fam court... she said they will go back to July when I petitioned for the paternity test, up until April when I turn 21... OR she has seen some judges go back a whole 20 years... weird.

    And I hope others get some help out of my posts. :)
  • Nov 25, 2008, 03:27 PM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zawatska View Post
    Well from what my grandma has told me...she retired from fam court...she said they will go back to july when i petitioned for the paternity test, up until april when i turn 21... OR she has seen some judges go back a whole 20 years.....weird.

    and i hope others get some help out of my posts. :)



    People have posted both scenarios - back for 20 years, back to the date of filing. I'm curious to find out because other people have asked.

    Shouldn't you be out somewhere, celebrating?
  • Nov 25, 2008, 05:40 PM
    jjwoodhull
    Hi Z - congratulations! I am in complete awe of your strenghth. If he doesn't want to be part of your life, then he is a fool. Anyone with sense would be proud to have you as a daughter. Definitely go after whatever child support you can get. Your mom has gone it alone for long enough.
  • Nov 25, 2008, 06:34 PM
    zawatska

    Judy I don't drink because I'm not 21 yet.. or do drugs so celebrating is out of the question... when I turn 21 I will celebrate for this, and every other holiday that has passed haha. Me, my mom and my dad are going to go to every bar in town and have one drink... there is at least 100 bars in my town... we will see how far we make it. Lmao ;)
  • Nov 26, 2008, 04:24 AM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zawatska View Post
    Judy I don't drink because im not 21 yet..., or do drugs so celebrating is out of the question... when I turn 21 I will celebrate for this, and every other holiday that has passed haha. me, my mom and my dad are going to go to every bar in town and have one drink....there is at least 100 bars in my town...we will see how far we make it. lmao ;)



    With this news I think I'd celebrate right now with Diet Pepsi (my particular "addiction") and a bag of chips!
  • Nov 26, 2008, 07:50 AM
    zawatska

    Haha that'll do. :) thanks for evvverything everyone...

    Especially you Judy 1. xoxxoxoxoxoxoxoxoooo
  • Nov 26, 2008, 08:04 AM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zawatska View Post
    haha that'll do. :) thanks for evvverything everyone...

    especially you Judy 1. xoxxoxoxoxoxoxoxoooo



    Back at you - <group hug> - I just may show up for your birthday celebration! :D

    It's everyone working together here, not just one person, but I appreciate the thanks.
  • Nov 26, 2008, 10:41 AM
    zawatska

    April 21st. Lets make plans. Where are u again? Nyc?
  • Nov 26, 2008, 03:09 PM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zawatska View Post
    april 21st. lets make plans. where are u again? nyc?



    Answered by PM -
  • Nov 27, 2008, 02:45 AM
    Clough
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zawatska View Post
    OMG!!!!!! Test results just came in, I left work to check my mail because I had a strange gut feeling.... they were there!!!

    He is 99.99% my father!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ahhhhhhh Judy!!!

    I sent my DAD an email ....we will see if he even responds!! (doubt it) I finally have closure, and that is all I ask or really wanted....Now should I get child support or no?

    That's awesome! Thanks for letting us know! :)
  • Nov 27, 2008, 06:36 AM
    zawatska

    Well it's iffy... im happy I have closure finally, and I know the truth, but then again I'm pee-d off because he won't talk to me... like I did something wrong! I guess he still acts how he used to... you can't teach old dogs new tricks I guess... :-/
  • Nov 27, 2008, 06:46 AM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zawatska View Post
    Well it's iffy...im happy i have closure finally, and i know the truth, but then again im pee-d off because he won't talk to me... like I did something wrong!! I guess he still acts how he used to....you can't teach old dogs new tricks I guess...:-/



    Sometimes when people can't face up to what happened or what they've done they use anger as a shield - "It's not me, it's you."

    Also, anger is an easier emotion than sadness or grief and your father would have to feel some guilt and loss because he wasn't there for you and I would guess he can't handle those emotions.

    And then add that maybe he never mentioned you to his wife (although he knew there was a very good possibility he was your father) and suddenly - surprise!

    I think he is incapable, for whatever reason, of holding himself responsible so it's all your fault. (I guess he's one of those people who has to blame somebody, even if the blame is not rational.)

    I hope you keep coming back and posting - when people who are 14 or 15 post, looking for a parent, positive there will be a happy ending, your experience will be helpful to them, not to discourage them but to say, "Hey, it might not all be wonderful when you find your parent."
  • Nov 27, 2008, 06:57 AM
    zawatska

    Very true... Rob has 3 other kids too... He is really involved with his sons schooling, and geez he's even his sons football coach... so now I have a step daughter who is 3, and a half brother who's like 12... he has another one, but its not his, it's his wife's from another relationship. I just wish we could talk! And I have no doubt that he didn't tell his wife about any of this... she knows now! She's the type of beeeeeeotch who says "I dont believe it" lets take another test... there is only .05 % that he's NOT my father... he can't fight that one in court... court is on Monday... lets see how that goes... the judge is going to ask me if I am seeking support... my answer is going to be heck yes... im pretty bitter. :) have a happy thanksgiving everyone!!

    Ps-judy, I got your pm, thanks for sharing that with me... u better come from syracuse to party for my birthday!! ;-)
  • Nov 27, 2008, 07:00 AM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zawatska View Post
    Very true... Rob has 3 other kids too...He is really involved with his sons schooling, and geez hes even his sons football coach... so now I have a step daughter who is 3, and a half brother who's like 12....he has another one, but its not his, it's his wifes from another relationship. I just wish we could talk! And I have no doubt that he didn't tell his wife about any of this...she knows now! Shes the type of beeeeeeotch who says "I dont believe it" lets take another test... there is only .05 % that hes NOT my father...he can't fight that one in court....court is on monday...lets see how that goes...the judge is going to ask me if i am seeking support....my answer is going to be heck yes....im pretty bitter. :) have a happy thanksgiving everyone!!!

    ps-judy, i got ur pm, thanks for sharing that with me... u better come from syracuse to party for my birthday!!! ;-)




    This is me smiling - you're too much. It's a long drive but I bet I can make it! Your father has NO idea what he's missing!
  • Nov 29, 2008, 08:10 AM
    zawatska

    Ok, so here's an update... I feel like a complete nut case today. I need to be committed I swear I do! ;-)

    I'm stuck. I don't know whether child support is the right route to go... he still hasn't answered the 2 emails I sent him... one with the court papers saying he IS indeed my father (because he didn't receive his copies yet and I was anxious to hear what he had on his mind about it), and the other email asking him why he hasn't emailed me back, and how he feels... he is obv. Ignoring me... real mature right? Its getting to the point where I feel like I'm nagging him... :-/

    I am definitely in court on Monday going to tell the judge I want his financial affidavit, and his medical history... medical is important... financial not so much but I want his because he has mine and my moms, but family court gave me a hard time at first to get his because he "is only your assumed father"...

    I'm just stuck because I feel like whatever way I go re child support, we will have no relationship... so I just might as well get it to spite him? You know because my mom did raise me for over 20 years... Help me guys! J_9, Judy, Fr_Chuck
  • Dec 1, 2008, 10:35 AM
    zawatska

    Okay, I had court today... the outcome is $25/week temporary support... rob is taking me to trial on jan 28th 2009 to establish whether I was emancipated... which I wasn't. I moved out of my mothers house after an argument, and moved in with my grandmother who retired from family court... if she has to, she will show up in court and vouch that that's true... My mom or I NEVER signed anything that said I'm emancipated, or she's not responsible for me anymore or anything! He will lose this one, and I will get greedy and ask for more money. And I finally got his financial affidavit... his house has a worth of $$190,000

    And get this.. I told the judge I am only asking for the minimum order of support whatever that was, and the judge said $25/MONTH and Rob said "yeah I can do that, thats more than fair!" haha you've got to be kidding..
    Oh well, 25/week is better than nothing, although he got out of 20 years of bills... I also get medical insurance if its available through his work, which I'm sure it is...
  • Dec 1, 2008, 10:40 AM
    JudyKayTee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by zawatska View Post
    Okay, I had court today...the outcome is $25/week temporary support...rob is taking me to trial on jan 28th 2009 to establish whether or not I was emancipated...which I wasn't. I moved out of my mothers house after an argument, and moved in with my grandmother who retired from family court...if she has to, she will show up in court and vouch that that's true...My mom or I NEVER signed anything that said I'm emancipated, or shes not responsible for me anymore or anything! He will lose this one, and I will get greedy and ask for more money. And I finally got his financial affidavit...his house has a worth of $$190,000

    and get this.. I told the judge I am only asking for the minimum order of support whatever that was, and the judge said $25/MONTH and Rob said "yeah I can do that, thats more than fair!" haha you've got to be kidding..
    oh well, 25/week is better than nothing, although he got out of 20 years of bills...I also get medical insurance if its available through his work, which im sure it is...



    Well, and like any other Court proceeding you tell your side, he tells his and the Judge decides what's fair/equitable and so forth.

    I have NO idea how he is going to prove long distance that you are/were emancipated - and he has to prove it, not just come up with theories.

    I'm torn about what you should ask for - I don't think child support is a means of exacting revenge BUT he always knew you were out there, somewhere, and did nothing, started another life and so forth. The other side of it is your mother never pursued him - for reasons I understand.

    I'm honestly torn here - I would like to see him acknowledge you, get to know you, all of that stuff but I don't think that's going to happen, at least not now. He behaved badly for a number of years and I'm sure he knows it. Maybe that's why he's throwing up road blocks.

    Honestly - I'm torn.

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