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I am overweight and have thought of a way to help me lose my fat. I have told friends and hubby expecting support but got told I was not thinking straight. How do I show them that I am and that it makes sense?
My plan is to cut the fat off my stomach. Once it is gone I will be fine. Now I feel like I am all alone and everyone is angry at me. I feel like no one cares and that they are all against me.
You are my last hope for support and please let me know how to explain it to them.
Susan
No it doesn't make sense. If you are going to have a Doctor perform the surgery and your health is fine that's a different story.
If you plan on doing it yourself, be sure you have a good life insurance and burial plans already prepared.
Don't do anything so dangerous.
Diet and exercise are the best way to get rid of excess weight.
Diet and exercise work if you are not on anti depressants that make you keep the weight on. I also do exercise as often as I can, I have to depend on others for drives to the gym, but do walk my dog daily.
I am not doing this as a Suicidal plan, this is not for me to die, it is for me to be skinny.
As far as eating, I have stopped eating as of today. I will only drink water until I am thin.
I guess you are like everyone else and decide to be so harsh to me. Why I even try to get help I don't know. I mean the professionals tell me to and when I reach out I get slapped in the face. Guess that is what I deserve as I was born to be abused, that is why god made me.
I will keep my ideas and thoughts to myself and realize they all lied. Reaching out for help is not helpful!
If you expected someone here to tell you to "cut the excess fat off yourself", you are going to be as you put it it "slapped down". No one here would ever tell someone to do something so unheard of dangerous.Quote:
Originally Posted by mogrann
I'm sorry if this irritates you, but you're old enough to know what you suggested is too drastic. I wish you well. I also will add this , God did not put you on this earth for others to abuse you.
Stop feeling sorry for yourself and get up and find something to do. If the antidepressant is causing you to gain weight, then ask your Doctor to prescribe a new one. You are acting like a very unhappy person. Stop doing that. If you are wanting sympathy, I have none for someone who gives up so easily and blames everyone else for it.
You got slapped as you put it for posting you were going to cut the fat off your own body. That's ridiculous and you know it.
I got more help from the crisis line than from you. I am going to the ER to get help from a doctor and posible IP. How dare you say I am feelign sorry for myself.
You have no idea what I have been through in my life and how much fighting I have done to stay alive. Yes I have my moments but that does not make me less a person. I do blame others for my depression in life, I blame the *******s who raped a 7 year old, the ex husband who abused me physically emotionally and sexually and also the family who abused me. You see they were wrong to hurt me but I am trying to get better and working on it.
After talking to you the other professionals I will say you would have been better off saying " please go talk to someone IRL " and explain why. I will say my reasons for wantign to do what I want to do still make sense oh well I will only use this site for advice on my dog.
We cannot read minds here. You told us nothing of your abuse and
You should have since that makes me think that's part of the problem.
We don't have the answers for everything here, just suggestions and you did not tell your whole situation. I hope you get better.
No one can understand what you have been through, except for you. I do have to admit, that when I first read your post, I too was lead to believe that you were going to the extreme that you wanted to "cut the fat from your body".Quote:
Originally Posted by mogrann
Kit is very much respected on here and gives out great advice. I don't think that she meant any harm in. You have to understand that we have all kinds of people that come on here, some of which are young teenagers with nothing else to do, but to give us a hard time.
I don't think you are the case.
That being said, I will try to help you.
I would like to know if you are seeing a councelor at the time? If not, then I would get professional help.
Especailly with all of your past and pain that you endured. This to me, this is a product of what has happened to you in the past.
Mogran,
You are not thinking clearly if you think you can cut the fat off yourself, and/or starve yourself into losing weight.
You are also not thinking clearly if you feel that everywhere you turn, including here, for help, nobody is providing 'support' for your thinking. Or approval, or encouragement.
That you find US being unreasonable, only confirms that you do not have any understanding of what you say, and the implications of same.
When you don't hear what you want to hear, it is not okay to turn on any person trying to understand and help you. All we have to go on I what you write, and when you turn tables and start to blame us for not having the answers you want, you are way out of line.
I am glad that you have at least enough clarity of thought, to phone a crisis line, and hopefully those in charge of your care, or those who care about you, are aware of these thoughts you have of hurting yourself.
I cannot see any recourse for you but to trust your doctors, and talk to them. Perhaps if you have been in therapy in the past, it might be something to consider now, at least until you are emotionall strong enough to know that your behaviour is very dangerous.
Please talk to someone face to face, and soon.
No one in the world understands spousal abuse until the have been there. Like you my first marriage was a living hell. I was far from home and the monster I was married too treated me horribly mentally, physically, emotionally and sexually. I have been there, but I got out.
I'm not a professional anything. I just know this idea of cutting the fat off your body tells me you have deep issues with self esteem. Now that you've told us about your life I see why you may feel you are worthless.
You're not. You're here for a reason and I wish I could help you. You're bitter. You're allowed to be. There is a good side to all this.
You know you need help and you are seeking help. That's a start. You have to believe in yourself. You have to know that people care for you.
You're not alone. Go to your Doctor and tell him how you feel about the weight and he may change your meds. I would never hurt you intentionally, but the thing about the body fat threw me. Please don't even consider doing that.
There is help.:)
You need mental health, not phsycial health first before you do anything. Your mental thinking is not correct. Sorry but blunt.
They do a suction of the fat if you meet certain guidelines.But honestly, you need to be happy with who you are, then work on weight issues
Well I went to hospital and seen a medical doctor. They did not send me for a psych assessment. All they did is put me on another med... Adavan? It is for anxiety.
I am also referred to Access Mental Health just waiting on call from them. I am feeling like it was just dope her up and send her on her way.
Life goes on I guess
If you have been referred to a mental health orgaization, that is to help assess your mental health needs.
Adavan is a drug for anxiety.
With the mental health referral, and a prescription for anxiety medication, those are two good steps, in the right direction to help you. I don't agree that you were just handed a script and sent on your way. There will be followups, and possible treatment recommended.
I hope that you take advantage of what has become available to you, to assist you in making better choices, other than the solutions you had to your problems in the first post.
Good luck, I hope you get the help you need.
Sorry, I meant to add this to my post. You may find information in here that will be helpful.
http://www.cmha.calgary.ab.ca/gethelp/default.aspx
You should stop being so negative. Give the meds a chance.
Ativan is for anxiety. Take it and see if you feel better.
After reading this thread I must apologize! I don't know what happened to make me be so rude, I had no right. Please forgive me for it all. Normally I just let others talk and don't say anything in my defense as I was taught that was being proudful. I am so angry at myself at the moment and am so sorry. Hope everyone is having a good night
Susan
No need for apologies. You were having a bad night. We all have them.Quote:
Originally Posted by mogrann
You take care of yourself and we're here to listen and try to help.:)
No problem Susan.Quote:
Originally Posted by mogrann
Some times people come on here and ask questions and don't like the answers they get.
We only try to help people. We donate our time. I wish I got paid for this. ;)
Thank you very much for the apology.
Please keep us posted and good luck to you.
I have a very good and close friend, he was sitting one day in his living room, his life had fell apart, friends, family were all gone, he felt he had nothing, and no reason to go on. He was in law enforcement and sat with his service weapon in his hand, he debated a good part of the day about shooting his self, but did not want to be a bother to someone who had to clean up the mess. Lucky for him, ( he did not think he really had a problem) and did not see how medication could help him. But it did, that with counseling got him thinking straight again.
I have heard from the Access Mental Health People, apparently the doc in ER wanted me on the DPT wait list (I am all ready), so she referred me to another place to get help from a psych doc. I called and there is a 2-3 month wait.
I also called my family doc as my medicine the ER doc gave me is almost gone and they can not fit me in until next week.
I also found out the doctor diagnosed me as paranoid.
This is so frustrating, I am doing what everyone tells me but it seems to take so long to get help.
Susan
How many Ativan did they prescribe you?More than 10?
If you are still having so many problems and need further help,can you get back to the hospital?Or maybe a phone call to a hotline?
The paranoia is not a bad thing,just another diagnostic criteria.Depression along with the paranoia,what else has been listed?
Please,fill me in.:)
KBC
I have a silly question, but this wait time, does it have anything to do with the fact that Susan is in Alberta.
See, I live in Arizona, and a similar situation happened to my friend recenly, and when she went to the hospital, they took it very seriously. There was no wait time for her to be evaluated. So I was just wondering.
That is yet to be determined, perhaps when Susan returns we can see!Quote:
Originally Posted by Enigma1999
Here in Illinois,the 'wait' isn't long either.If someone is in need,it get's met.That could be the healthcare system WE might have soon... I really don't know,but I hope not.
The night I went to the hospital, they told me that all beds were full in the hospital and all of the ER beds were full of people waiting to get beds.
They did keep asking if I was SU, and that has been asked before. I am starting to think that you have to be Suicidal to be fast tracked for help. I only have one pill left of the meds and will have to play it by ear I guess. All he said (ER doc) is take every 8 hours when needed, which I have been.
Susan
For those unfamiliar, or misinformed about Canada's health care system, there is no wait for an emergency. None. If, a Doctor determines there is a high risk of suicide presenting, he will do one of three things. He will admit immediately, or, he will have the patient admitted to a psychiatric hospital nearest the patients home, or, the patient will be sent by ambulance to a psychiatric hospital for assessment and treatment. The very least he will do, is thouroughly examine the patient and determine the best course of action. This is NO cost to the patient whatsoever, which is the only difference in comparable emergency rooms faced with the same person/patient, in the states.
We have no way of knowing what the exchange was between our OP, and the treatment she has had. I find it hard to believe that they would not have given her a script, and I suspect someone was with her (I hope so), so that if she was unable to explain herself sufficiently enough, a parent or caregiver could help determine the best course of action.
Mogran, the referral you have been already given to the mental health services is the route you need to go. If you are not suicidal, why were you at the emergency ward in the first place.
Please follow the instructions you were given by the first doctor you talked about, who has made a referral on your behalf, for further assessment. This is at no cost to you, as you know, and I hope you take advantage of that, and an appointment is made soon to get the ball rolling.
Thank you for clarifying that. I guess that's where I was confused, because Susan was saying that although not suicidal, she was considering cutting herself. So, I wasn't quite sure why they released her.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jake2008
You are correct though, I too also find it strange that they didn't give her a script.
Susan, I agree, I think that you should stick to the instructions the Doc has given you.
I wish you lots of luck.
I hope that you will phone your Doctor's office, and ask if there is another doctor there who can fill the prescription for you. Maybe your husband can help you get this done.
I don't know why this wasn't done in emerg, maybe they didn't want to send you on your way with enough medication to seriously hurt yourself, I have no idea. But, try next time, not to run out of medication. You will be at the bottom of the triage for a prescription refill, behind car crash victims, heart attacks, shooting victims, mothers in labour, etc.
Try to be patient. If you are in crisis, I presume that you, or your husband have phone numbers at hand, and 911 in an emergency.
So many ? And some misinformation. I will try to correct it as best as I can.
1. I went to emergency as I was feeling like I was going to explode on the inside(best way I can explain it). Also the crisis line asked me to go in due to my diet idea.
2. The medication I was worried about getting filled was for my anxiety and perscribed by the emergency room doctor. He gave me some in the hospital and asked me to see my family doctor.
3. We did call my family doctor and explained the situation but he had just come back from vacation and was booked up all week. I have an appointment for this week coming. I will be out of my meds but there is nothing I can do for that.
4. I suffer from BPD and self injury and severe depression. I am on a wait list for DBT.
5. I am also on a wait list between 2-3 months to talk to a psych doc as the system is that overloaded.
I think I have answered everything. I am doing better but am worried as I have no anti anxiety meds (which the ER doc gave me).
Susan
Here when I am about to be out of certain medications,I call the doctors office for a refill order to be sent to the pharmacy,or the pharmacy contacts the doctors office requesting refills.It works either way.Quote:
Originally Posted by mogrann
IF... you want these meds and think they will assist you in recovering/to keep stable, it's entirely up to you to take the initiative and make those calls.
If things have settled down since the initial incident,perhaps you don't need the anxiety meds, only you know the truth behind that.Taking something because you THINK you MIGHT need them,well,that borders on abuse.(or mis-use at the least)
Beyond that fear of no meds, how are you doing?Has the rest of your life settled down to where you can manage things again?
Thank you for offering more information that puts things together a bit better for those trying to understand.
All I can say is, it looks like you have things lined up, and I hope you will feel better after you visit your Doctor next week.
It's good that you are feeling better too. All the best to you Mogrann.
A p.s. to KBC, in Ontario, refills cannot be done over the phone. They used to be, but that hasn't been done for years. It may be different in Alberta, and certainly worth a try, but I suspect she will need to visit her GP to have scripts refilled.
I am sorry for what you have been through in life
The past is the past and no matter how hard we try, not one thing can be changed about it because... well it already passed
Your past can shape your future though---you can become a stronger woman who don't take **** from no one. You can become an advisor to those who like you were abused.
Blaming others is not going to get you anywhere as it keeps your focus on the past which is where you should be moving AWAY from. Today is your present, try to focus on that.. focus on the present with the goal of making tomorrow better.
As for cutting the fat out of your stomach. This is not a sensible idea. If you want to get a bypass, get a bypass with a professional... trying it yourself is suicidal
You will get better!
It depends on the doctor and on the pharmacy.
Drugs like Ativan are highly addictive and can be abused and that is why it is given in low amounts.
As far as lining everything up it is good that all the ducks are in a row and if you really feel in trouble you need to admit yourself in the ward.
As far as starving yourself, it will only help you gain more weight. Skipping meals and not eating will not help and once you start eating again you will gain a whole bunch more weight.
Anxiety medication is just a quick fix and you can not rely or depend on them. You need to work on this issues with the help of all emergency doctors, family doctors, counselors and psychiatrists.
Good luck with your journey and remember anytime you feel that your in trouble. Go to your nearest hospital and also reach out to the 24/7 health line and help lines.
Hope you work out all of your issues and there is NEVER a quick fix to anxiety or paranoia, it will take time to go through all your history and to work through your issues and also finding the right medication that will find a balance in your life.
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